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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @bridgeenjoyer @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

    i agree except with your conclusion

    cynicism is self-fulfilling prophecy

    we fight

    we always fight

    and any argument against fighting, such as cynicism, only aids fascism

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    #59

    @benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth I'd like to agree ; but I'm really not convincing anyone, just annoying my friends who will further ignore everything I say.

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    • clutha@mastodon.scotC clutha@mastodon.scot

      @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
      I campaigned strongly during 2014. If one reply sickened me it was 20 year olds declaring ’I don’t do politics’.
      I wanted to scream at times ‘do you know how effin government works?’

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      #60

      @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth they dont do politics until it affects them.

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      • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

        @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

        There is no real communism, socialism, democracy, capitalism or any of the other myriad of political constructs. The only way to build a government that is 'for the people' is to start at the bottom & ask the people. Build from the bottom up not the top down. Figure out what to call it after it's done. I lean toward a Democracy however the people define it.

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        #61

        @A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
        Churchill was credited with declaring ’democracy is the least worst system of governance’
        Our nightshift offshore discussion group favoured a benign dictatorship 🤔

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        • clutha@mastodon.scotC clutha@mastodon.scot

          @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
          I campaigned strongly during 2014. If one reply sickened me it was 20 year olds declaring ’I don’t do politics’.
          I wanted to scream at times ‘do you know how effin government works?’

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          #62

          @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

          the answer to

          "i don't do politics"

          is simple:

          "but politics does you

          so you better engage, or you will be engaged with on the chosen terms of bigot fascist ghouls who got in power because you ignored politics"

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          • farbel@mas.toF farbel@mas.to

            @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth "start at the bottom & ask the people." That is voting. Unfortunately a whole lot of people shrug and say "I dunno." or "I don't care." A whole lot more are manipulated into voting against their own interests, and another majority don't understand that, in a democracy, nobody gets everything thery want, so they stay home and bitch instead of doing the work.

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            #63

            @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

            Yup, so that is why Ben and several others are up here is to push, beg, convince, cajole, intimidate, scream to get people to vote

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            • bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.clubB bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.club

              @benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth I'd like to agree ; but I'm really not convincing anyone, just annoying my friends who will further ignore everything I say.

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              #64

              @bridgeenjoyer @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

              i'll give you my brutally honest response:

              fuck your friends, your friends fucking suck. whiny useless cynics suck

              find new friends

              really. fuck entitled lumps

              i know that's easy for me to say. but empty cynics will only grind your gears in the end, so a soft retreat at least is coming anyways

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              • bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.clubB bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.club

                @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth they dont do politics until it affects them.

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                #65

                @bridgeenjoyer @Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                If we yell enough, bludgeon enough maybe just maybe we could get 1 or 2 to plan ahead a bit. Alaskan Natives have the idea that if you are going to make changes big changes you need to look at what those changes will do over the next 7 generations.

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                  the answer to

                  "i don't do politics"

                  is simple:

                  "but politics does you

                  so you better engage, or you will be engaged with on the chosen terms of bigot fascist ghouls who got in power because you ignored politics"

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                  #66

                  @benroyce @Clutha @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                  🤣 😂 🤣 😂 That's just too simple.

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                  • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

                    @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                    Won't argue but they get so crossed up that it seems they are all trying to do the same things. No matter what kind of Political theory there is an attached economic platform. They go hand in hand. The KISS principle.

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                    #67

                    @A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
                    Have schools stopped teaching anything regarding propaganda in modern history. Is it only my (ancient) generation that recognises media manipulation by capitalism?

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                    • clutha@mastodon.scotC clutha@mastodon.scot

                      @A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
                      Churchill was credited with declaring ’democracy is the least worst system of governance’
                      Our nightshift offshore discussion group favoured a benign dictatorship 🤔

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                      #68

                      @Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                      No matter what we think there is no good government. The absolute best is one that "does the least harm". Like that?

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                      • clutha@mastodon.scotC clutha@mastodon.scot

                        @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
                        I campaigned strongly during 2014. If one reply sickened me it was 20 year olds declaring ’I don’t do politics’.
                        I wanted to scream at times ‘do you know how effin government works?’

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                        #69

                        @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                        If you don't do politics, politics will still seek to do you. The Epstein class is rapists, not people looking for consensual ANYTHING after all.

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                        • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

                          @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                          There is no real communism, socialism, democracy, capitalism or any of the other myriad of political constructs. The only way to build a government that is 'for the people' is to start at the bottom & ask the people. Build from the bottom up not the top down. Figure out what to call it after it's done. I lean toward a Democracy however the people define it.

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                          #70

                          @A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth My early 1970’s experience re the crofting community in Sutherland & Caithness demonstrated a localised near communist system.

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                            the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is NOT democratic

                            the National Socialist German Workers' Party was NOT socialist

                            etc

                            people forget:

                            1. the historical evolution of a country or party
                            2. ideological terms are complex with muddy contradictory meanings
                            3. that propaganda will paint an ideological term in an unfair light

                            then people will spend twenty years arguing about fucking terminology and forget real issues

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                            #71

                            @benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth My favourite example of this is countries that have chosen to add the word "United" to their names.

                            Often such countries are like a couple who constantly argue but defer getting divorced by having more children.

                            This keeps them from having to confront the fact that they should never have got together in the first place.

                            All that remains holding them together is a mutual dislike of their neighbours.

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                            • screwturn@mastodon.socialS screwturn@mastodon.social

                              @benroyce

                              Very much a "white savior will come to rescue us" flavor in there.
                              American voters need to wake up and realize that it is THEIR job to find and pick good candidates, not some party leadership or deity.

                              @crcollins @spreadthetruth @retech

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                              #72

                              @screwturn @benroyce @crcollins @spreadthetruth @retech WTP have sent this “great white hope” into the ring twice.
                              And he’s failed both times!
                              What does that say about WTP?

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                              • clutha@mastodon.scotC clutha@mastodon.scot

                                @A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth My early 1970’s experience re the crofting community in Sutherland & Caithness demonstrated a localised near communist system.

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                                #73

                                @Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                                Read Turnbuls "The Forest People"!

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                                  the answer to

                                  "i don't do politics"

                                  is simple:

                                  "but politics does you

                                  so you better engage, or you will be engaged with on the chosen terms of bigot fascist ghouls who got in power because you ignored politics"

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                                  #74

                                  @benroyce @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                                  "Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you"

                                  (Pericles of Athens, BC 430 )

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                                  • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

                                    @Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                                    No matter what we think there is no good government. The absolute best is one that "does the least harm". Like that?

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                                    #75

                                    @A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
                                    Denmark & Finland vie for ‘happiest country’ title. I’d say their governments have nailed it.

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech

                                      every state has different rules about who can #vote in the #primary

                                      you got closed, partially closed, partially open, open to unaffiliated voters, open, multi-party, etc

                                      it's fucking complicated, and part of our problem with voting in general in the #USA because people are never educated about it and never figure it out

                                      it still doesn't mean they are free of blame IF THEY DON'T FUCKING VOTE IN THE #PRIMARIES

                                      educate yourself AND VOTE

                                      https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/state-primary-election-types

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                                      #76

                                      @benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech in #wyoming almost every office is chosen in the Primary and they’re almost always republicans This will be a very difficult state to turn even slightly purple.

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                                      • horqua@mastodon.socialH horqua@mastodon.social

                                        @benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech in #wyoming almost every office is chosen in the Primary and they’re almost always republicans This will be a very difficult state to turn even slightly purple.

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                                        #77

                                        @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech

                                        you still have the option of vandalism or sabotage through primary voting

                                        in party or across party lines

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech

                                          you still have the option of vandalism or sabotage through primary voting

                                          in party or across party lines

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                                          #78

                                          @benroyce @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech My state isn’t quite as red as Wyoming, but I seriously considered registering Republican in 2024 long enough to try to vote for the least worst. In the end, I decided it was more to my advantage to select Dems in local gov races (county, city). But that’s the thing I’d encourage everyone to do… look at the ballot and be strategic and make a choice. Don’t be passive.

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