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  • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

    @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

    There is no real communism, socialism, democracy, capitalism or any of the other myriad of political constructs. The only way to build a government that is 'for the people' is to start at the bottom & ask the people. Build from the bottom up not the top down. Figure out what to call it after it's done. I lean toward a Democracy however the people define it.

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    #53

    @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth "start at the bottom & ask the people." That is voting. Unfortunately a whole lot of people shrug and say "I dunno." or "I don't care." A whole lot more are manipulated into voting against their own interests, and another majority don't understand that, in a democracy, nobody gets everything thery want, so they stay home and bitch instead of doing the work.

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    • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

      @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

      There is no real communism, socialism, democracy, capitalism or any of the other myriad of political constructs. The only way to build a government that is 'for the people' is to start at the bottom & ask the people. Build from the bottom up not the top down. Figure out what to call it after it's done. I lean toward a Democracy however the people define it.

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      #54

      @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth I would also say that communism, socialism and capitalism are economic constructs, not political. Democracy and authoritarianism and fascism are political constructs.

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      • farbel@mas.toF farbel@mas.to

        @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth I would also say that communism, socialism and capitalism are economic constructs, not political. Democracy and authoritarianism and fascism are political constructs.

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        #55

        @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

        Won't argue but they get so crossed up that it seems they are all trying to do the same things. No matter what kind of Political theory there is an attached economic platform. They go hand in hand. The KISS principle.

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

          the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is NOT democratic

          the National Socialist German Workers' Party was NOT socialist

          etc

          people forget:

          1. the historical evolution of a country or party
          2. ideological terms are complex with muddy contradictory meanings
          3. that propaganda will paint an ideological term in an unfair light

          then people will spend twenty years arguing about fucking terminology and forget real issues

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          #56

          @benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth people (especially Americans) are generally not smart, and only believe what talking heads on networks owned by a corrupt billionaire tell them.

          What's an Americans average reading comprehension level again, 5th grade? Yeah, we are cooked. No wonder we are headed for full on fascism.

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          • farbel@mas.toF farbel@mas.to

            @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth "start at the bottom & ask the people." That is voting. Unfortunately a whole lot of people shrug and say "I dunno." or "I don't care." A whole lot more are manipulated into voting against their own interests, and another majority don't understand that, in a democracy, nobody gets everything thery want, so they stay home and bitch instead of doing the work.

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            #57

            @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
            I campaigned strongly during 2014. If one reply sickened me it was 20 year olds declaring ’I don’t do politics’.
            I wanted to scream at times ‘do you know how effin government works?’

            bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.clubB benroyce@mastodon.socialB lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lionelb@expressional.socialL 4 Replies Last reply
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            • bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.clubB bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.club

              @benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth people (especially Americans) are generally not smart, and only believe what talking heads on networks owned by a corrupt billionaire tell them.

              What's an Americans average reading comprehension level again, 5th grade? Yeah, we are cooked. No wonder we are headed for full on fascism.

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              #58

              @bridgeenjoyer @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

              i agree except with your conclusion

              cynicism is self-fulfilling prophecy

              we fight

              we always fight

              and any argument against fighting, such as cynicism, only aids fascism

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                @bridgeenjoyer @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                i agree except with your conclusion

                cynicism is self-fulfilling prophecy

                we fight

                we always fight

                and any argument against fighting, such as cynicism, only aids fascism

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                #59

                @benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth I'd like to agree ; but I'm really not convincing anyone, just annoying my friends who will further ignore everything I say.

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                • clutha@mastodon.scotC clutha@mastodon.scot

                  @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
                  I campaigned strongly during 2014. If one reply sickened me it was 20 year olds declaring ’I don’t do politics’.
                  I wanted to scream at times ‘do you know how effin government works?’

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                  #60

                  @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth they dont do politics until it affects them.

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                  • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

                    @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                    There is no real communism, socialism, democracy, capitalism or any of the other myriad of political constructs. The only way to build a government that is 'for the people' is to start at the bottom & ask the people. Build from the bottom up not the top down. Figure out what to call it after it's done. I lean toward a Democracy however the people define it.

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                    #61

                    @A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
                    Churchill was credited with declaring ’democracy is the least worst system of governance’
                    Our nightshift offshore discussion group favoured a benign dictatorship 🤔

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                    • clutha@mastodon.scotC clutha@mastodon.scot

                      @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
                      I campaigned strongly during 2014. If one reply sickened me it was 20 year olds declaring ’I don’t do politics’.
                      I wanted to scream at times ‘do you know how effin government works?’

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                      #62

                      @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                      the answer to

                      "i don't do politics"

                      is simple:

                      "but politics does you

                      so you better engage, or you will be engaged with on the chosen terms of bigot fascist ghouls who got in power because you ignored politics"

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                      • farbel@mas.toF farbel@mas.to

                        @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth "start at the bottom & ask the people." That is voting. Unfortunately a whole lot of people shrug and say "I dunno." or "I don't care." A whole lot more are manipulated into voting against their own interests, and another majority don't understand that, in a democracy, nobody gets everything thery want, so they stay home and bitch instead of doing the work.

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                        #63

                        @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                        Yup, so that is why Ben and several others are up here is to push, beg, convince, cajole, intimidate, scream to get people to vote

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                        • bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.clubB bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.club

                          @benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth I'd like to agree ; but I'm really not convincing anyone, just annoying my friends who will further ignore everything I say.

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                          #64

                          @bridgeenjoyer @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                          i'll give you my brutally honest response:

                          fuck your friends, your friends fucking suck. whiny useless cynics suck

                          find new friends

                          really. fuck entitled lumps

                          i know that's easy for me to say. but empty cynics will only grind your gears in the end, so a soft retreat at least is coming anyways

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                          • bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.clubB bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.club

                            @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth they dont do politics until it affects them.

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                            #65

                            @bridgeenjoyer @Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                            If we yell enough, bludgeon enough maybe just maybe we could get 1 or 2 to plan ahead a bit. Alaskan Natives have the idea that if you are going to make changes big changes you need to look at what those changes will do over the next 7 generations.

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                              the answer to

                              "i don't do politics"

                              is simple:

                              "but politics does you

                              so you better engage, or you will be engaged with on the chosen terms of bigot fascist ghouls who got in power because you ignored politics"

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                              #66

                              @benroyce @Clutha @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                              🤣 😂 🤣 😂 That's just too simple.

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                              • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

                                @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                                Won't argue but they get so crossed up that it seems they are all trying to do the same things. No matter what kind of Political theory there is an attached economic platform. They go hand in hand. The KISS principle.

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                                #67

                                @A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
                                Have schools stopped teaching anything regarding propaganda in modern history. Is it only my (ancient) generation that recognises media manipulation by capitalism?

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                                • clutha@mastodon.scotC clutha@mastodon.scot

                                  @A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
                                  Churchill was credited with declaring ’democracy is the least worst system of governance’
                                  Our nightshift offshore discussion group favoured a benign dictatorship 🤔

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                                  #68

                                  @Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                                  No matter what we think there is no good government. The absolute best is one that "does the least harm". Like that?

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                                  • clutha@mastodon.scotC clutha@mastodon.scot

                                    @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
                                    I campaigned strongly during 2014. If one reply sickened me it was 20 year olds declaring ’I don’t do politics’.
                                    I wanted to scream at times ‘do you know how effin government works?’

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                                    #69

                                    @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                                    If you don't do politics, politics will still seek to do you. The Epstein class is rapists, not people looking for consensual ANYTHING after all.

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                                    • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

                                      @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                                      There is no real communism, socialism, democracy, capitalism or any of the other myriad of political constructs. The only way to build a government that is 'for the people' is to start at the bottom & ask the people. Build from the bottom up not the top down. Figure out what to call it after it's done. I lean toward a Democracy however the people define it.

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                                      #70

                                      @A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth My early 1970’s experience re the crofting community in Sutherland & Caithness demonstrated a localised near communist system.

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                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                                        the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is NOT democratic

                                        the National Socialist German Workers' Party was NOT socialist

                                        etc

                                        people forget:

                                        1. the historical evolution of a country or party
                                        2. ideological terms are complex with muddy contradictory meanings
                                        3. that propaganda will paint an ideological term in an unfair light

                                        then people will spend twenty years arguing about fucking terminology and forget real issues

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                                        #71

                                        @benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth My favourite example of this is countries that have chosen to add the word "United" to their names.

                                        Often such countries are like a couple who constantly argue but defer getting divorced by having more children.

                                        This keeps them from having to confront the fact that they should never have got together in the first place.

                                        All that remains holding them together is a mutual dislike of their neighbours.

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                                        • screwturn@mastodon.socialS screwturn@mastodon.social

                                          @benroyce

                                          Very much a "white savior will come to rescue us" flavor in there.
                                          American voters need to wake up and realize that it is THEIR job to find and pick good candidates, not some party leadership or deity.

                                          @crcollins @spreadthetruth @retech

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                                          #72

                                          @screwturn @benroyce @crcollins @spreadthetruth @retech WTP have sent this “great white hope” into the ring twice.
                                          And he’s failed both times!
                                          What does that say about WTP?

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