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  3. 🍪 There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners.

🍪 There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners.

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  • harharlinks@chaos.socialH harharlinks@chaos.social

    @noybeu Not to mention, as pointed out by your site, if this is part of the problematic Digital Omnibus, am I not risking that politicians support the whole Omnibus instead of just the aspect I would like them to?

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    #14

    @HarHarLinks No, not at all. These negotiations are not "all or nothing", but the articles are being discussed individually. MEPs can therefore be for one measure (in this case Article 88b GDPR), but be against the measures that would weaken your rights. This is what we are trying to achieve in this case.

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    • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

      🍪 There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. 🚫 And we finally have a chance to get rid of them!

      💡 The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently.

      📃 A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.

      ➡️ https://killthecookiebanner.eu/

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      #15

      @noybeu Browser-level preferences would be a huge improvement.

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      • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

        🍪 There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. 🚫 And we finally have a chance to get rid of them!

        💡 The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently.

        📃 A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.

        ➡️ https://killthecookiebanner.eu/

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        #16
        Like, the Do Not Track signal, but this time being actually respected by law? Yeah I like that
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        • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

          @HarHarLinks Hi there! We will provide more information on the website explaining how the solution could look like in practice asap. In short, we favor an approach where a third-party agent can manage such requests and give (based on user choices) specific consent to individual controllers.

          You can check out ADPC or navigator.consent for examples for how this can be implemented technically

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          #17

          @noybeu Thanks for replying, I look forward to more updates.

          Should I not be concerned that solutions with detailed presets like in the navigator.consent demo actually widen the tracking fingerprint surface for bad actors? I understand that anything not sufficiently common I send into the internet is another identifying datum, lessening my privacy stance.

          The convenience through technology is nice, but no solution to a problem of a policy not having sufficient teeth to enforce it.

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          • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

            🍪 There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. 🚫 And we finally have a chance to get rid of them!

            💡 The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently.

            📃 A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.

            ➡️ https://killthecookiebanner.eu/

            jc00qe@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #18

            @noybeu I think the real solution is to outlaw data-brokers. remove the incentive structure and thats it

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            • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

              Take a look at https://killthecookiebanner.eu/ to learn how YOU can help!

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              #19

              @noybeu

              I would have liked to help, but thanks to the actions of idiots, I no longer HAVE an EU MEP.

              #RejoinEU

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              • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

                🍪 There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. 🚫 And we finally have a chance to get rid of them!

                💡 The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently.

                📃 A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.

                ➡️ https://killthecookiebanner.eu/

                skyblitz@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #20

                @noybeu done

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                • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

                  ✊ Together with @beuc , @checkmyads , Civil Liberties Union for Europe, @edri , @eff , Irish Council for Civil Liberties, Stichting Data Bescherming Nederland, @apti , @HomoDigitalisGR , Digihumanism - Centre for AI & Digital Humanism, and Sustainable Computing Lab, noyb has therefore joined a campaign to make this happen – and #KillTheCookieBanner!

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                  #21

                  @noybeu @beuc @checkmyads @edri @eff @apti @HomoDigitalisGR

                  @bitsoffreedom iets voor jullie?

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                  • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

                    🍪 There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. 🚫 And we finally have a chance to get rid of them!

                    💡 The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently.

                    📃 A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.

                    ➡️ https://killthecookiebanner.eu/

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                    #22

                    @noybeu

                    Related: we never needed those in the first place, but for malicious compliance.

                    https://pluralistic.net/2026/07/21/dickovers/#block-element

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                    • jc00qe@mastodon.socialJ jc00qe@mastodon.social

                      @noybeu I think the real solution is to outlaw data-brokers. remove the incentive structure and thats it

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                      #23

                      @Jc00qe @noybeu
                      You can just block third party cookies right now for a start.

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                      • jerrej@mastodon.socialJ jerrej@mastodon.social

                        @Jc00qe @noybeu
                        You can just block third party cookies right now for a start.

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                        #24

                        @Jc00qe @noybeu

                        Not sure if "local storage" is bound by the same third party rules.

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                        • streetcoder@mastodon.socialS streetcoder@mastodon.social

                          @noybeu And last but not least if the banners will really be killed, most VLOPs sites will continue with visitor stitching and track everything in a hidden server to server way.

                          So given that, the server infrastructure would have to be inspected from time to time by official inspectors. Who should do that? Which organisation do you trust.

                          It's a mess.

                          BTW: I'm angry to Mozilla hiding the Google Analytics requests in Dev Tools beside they are clearly coming through with almost all data.

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                          #25

                          @streetcoder @noybeu
                          Mozilla gets 85% of their annual revenue from Google, if that helps

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                          • rndanger@infosec.exchangeR rndanger@infosec.exchange

                            @streetcoder @noybeu
                            Mozilla gets 85% of their annual revenue from Google, if that helps

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                            #26

                            @RnDanger @noybeu

                            Could be part of the problem. I think Mozilla is routing GA requests through their own servers and claim it's for privacy reasons.

                            But why do they not show these analytics request in dev tools?

                            I can see them! All of them which are running through my clients websites with Server Side GTM. All tracking parameters are unchanged, same same, no privacy.

                            They still could profile and target people, I can redact this before Google, but not before Mozilla Servers are reached.

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                            • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

                              🍪 There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. 🚫 And we finally have a chance to get rid of them!

                              💡 The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently.

                              📃 A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.

                              ➡️ https://killthecookiebanner.eu/

                              rokabe@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #27

                              @noybeu do you know of an initiative like this that includes the UK?

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                              • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

                                🍪 There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. 🚫 And we finally have a chance to get rid of them!

                                💡 The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently.

                                📃 A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.

                                ➡️ https://killthecookiebanner.eu/

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                                edwardcage@mastodon.social
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                                #28

                                @noybeu
                                It... already exists. Most browsers give the option to refuse all cookies.
                                It also already existed before the RGPD, that's why the RGPD was completly useless about dealing with cookies.

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                                • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

                                  @RichiH Hi Richard, if you click on the names, you'll be forwarded to the MEP's subpage of the European Parliament. There you can see more information about them.

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                                  #29

                                  @noybeu fair point. Though from a perspective of coordinating a LOT of human action, you want to minimize the amount of friction for everyone.

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                                  • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

                                    🍪 There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. 🚫 And we finally have a chance to get rid of them!

                                    💡 The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently.

                                    📃 A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.

                                    ➡️ https://killthecookiebanner.eu/

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                                    #30

                                    @noybeu I've heard claims the resolution does more than just give a brower-level "reject all optional" but I need to verify that claim.

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                                    • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

                                      🍪 There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. 🚫 And we finally have a chance to get rid of them!

                                      💡 The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently.

                                      📃 A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.

                                      ➡️ https://killthecookiebanner.eu/

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                                      #31

                                      @noybeu So glad to read some concerted action is at least afoot to try stop this constant cookie harassment. Thanks for the heads-up!

                                      I got so miffed by this scam that a few years back I made a T-shirt to tell others how I felt...
                                      No one even commented on it, let alone agreed. Oh well, let's hope the pros get better results.

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                                      • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

                                        🍪 There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. 🚫 And we finally have a chance to get rid of them!

                                        💡 The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently.

                                        📃 A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.

                                        ➡️ https://killthecookiebanner.eu/

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                                        #32

                                        @noybeu should've been the "do not track" header all along

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                                        • jerrej@mastodon.socialJ jerrej@mastodon.social

                                          @Jc00qe @noybeu
                                          You can just block third party cookies right now for a start.

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                                          #33

                                          @jerrej @noybeu i get it, they called it 'solution' that's what i was harping on about.

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