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Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing.

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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

    This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

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    #101

    @sundogplanets You are such a kind and welcoming person. I am so sorry you're having to deal with these jackholes so often trying to take advantage of that.

    Do not give a second thought to blocking them. They're not worth your time to educate or rehabilitate.

    Hugs. 🫂💜

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    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

      Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

      This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

      ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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      #102

      @sundogplanets Unfortunate, isn't it. Sigh. I just block.

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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

        This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

        macacator@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #103

        @sundogplanets ugh, magoons sea lion and it is sooooooooooooo exhausting. Just want to punch them in the forehead.

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

          This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

          twotired@universeodon.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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          #104

          @sundogplanets I think that giving them the benefit of the doubt long enough for them to learn something (if they choose to) is going way above and beyond, and speaks very well of you.

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          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

            Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

            This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

            nrmacdonald@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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            nrmacdonald@mastodon.social
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            #105

            @sundogplanets
            Well just let me tell youse about what that really is and is not about little misplaced missy scullery maid what's stepped out of line just wait until the master hears about this youse'll be out on your ear and beggin' for scraps from the fish monger in no time flat.

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

              This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

              masek@infosec.exchangeM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #106

              @sundogplanets When a thread seems to go downhill, I give the link to friends. In most cases they have no problems highlighting my mistakes.

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              • T tanavit@toot.aquilenet.fr

                @sundogplanets

                Thanks for this explaination.

                As french, I was ignorant of this meaning.

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                #107

                @tanavit @sundogplanets
                I was ignorant of the term, but not the action. So it's bullying, but with a veneer of politeness?

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                • wendinoakland@beige.partyW wendinoakland@beige.party

                  @fathermcgruder @knud @sundogplanets Yeet button as yet undeveloped

                  stepheneb@ruby.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #108

                  @wendinoakland @fathermcgruder @knud @sundogplanets

                  You can add a Note that is associated with a user.

                  I would love it if Block was something I could initiate while viewing a post and optionally the “adding a Note ui” appeared with the post link already copied into the content.

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                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                    An educational add-on, because a lot of people are asking about it (which is hilariously meta, I suppose, but here we are)

                    Sealioning (the Wikipedia article is quite good): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

                    Mansplaining: https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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                    #109

                    @sundogplanets My pre-teen daughter recently gave me the word 'ragebaiting' to help me understand a weird relationship in my life. Sealioning hits better, but takes more explanation.

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                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                      Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                      This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

                      lydiaschoch@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #110

                      @sundogplanets I used to give them a shot as well and try to either explain myself or ask for clarification depending on what they said. It never ended well, so now I block and never reply instead.

                      The block button makes the Internet a much more peaceful place to exist.

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                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                        Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                        This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

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                        #111

                        @sundogplanets Side note: it’s a wondrous joy to block such dipshits on the fedi (because often they’ll try to escalate without any realisation of what happened, straight up shouting into the void… and also often rapidly going mask off (if they had one on)) - a thing one can see by checking out home instance but otherwise be blissfully unaware of

                        Our mods on awful.systems employ the “ban fast, ban judiciously” strategy and it’s been _wonderful_

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                        • stepheneb@ruby.socialS stepheneb@ruby.social

                          @wendinoakland @fathermcgruder @knud @sundogplanets

                          You can add a Note that is associated with a user.

                          I would love it if Block was something I could initiate while viewing a post and optionally the “adding a Note ui” appeared with the post link already copied into the content.

                          wendinoakland@beige.partyW This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #112

                          @stepheneb @fathermcgruder @knud @sundogplanets Possibly relevant…?
                          @evan @stefan

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                          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                            Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                            This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

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                            #113

                            @sundogplanets

                            “manplainers”

                            Although technically a misspelling, it works really well I think!

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                            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                              Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                              This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

                              saederup@helvede.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #114

                              One would think that in the year 2026 both terms would be fairly common knowledge among people who have used the internet and social media for decades.

                              And yet here we are with the usual abundance of replies from people not knowing or feigning ignorance.

                              Well, at least it makes the pre-emptive blocking easy.

                              @sundogplanets

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                              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                @jguillaumes @sundogplanets The key point is that sealioning is never done in good faith. It's a time-wasting gambit, not genuine dialog.

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                                #115

                                @cstross @jguillaumes @sundogplanets If the key differential is intent, how are you judging intent? Sure, sometimes it might be obvious, but not always.

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                                • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

                                  @sundogplanets personally i find that even the nicest people find it hard to admit they were in the wrong and apologise; we all have so much emotional capital invested in being right these days.

                                  so, yes: block early, block often.

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                                  #116

                                  @fishidwardrobe @sundogplanets So by that logic you're going to block "even the nicest people" early and often.

                                  Personally, somebody has to be actively harassing me to get blocked.

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                                  • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                                    @sundogplanets Big fan (and practitioner) of blocking! But it's still valuable - to everyone else - to see prominent people articulate why bad behavior is unacceptable. It helps reinforce norms. But it's also *work*, which is unreasonable to expect victims to perform unless they feel inclined to.

                                    Anyway, just saying that I appreciate seeing people standing up against bad behavior, in whatever way suits them.

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                                    #117

                                    @mattblaze @sundogplanets I appreciate that because it lets me learn who to block without ever having to interact with them.

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                                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                      An educational add-on, because a lot of people are asking about it (which is hilariously meta, I suppose, but here we are)

                                      Sealioning (the Wikipedia article is quite good): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

                                      Mansplaining: https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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                                      #118

                                      @sundogplanets

                                      Funny. I'd never heard of sea lions until recently but realized I'd developed my own defense against one species a long time ago. I tell them to "do their own homework".

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                                      • wendinoakland@beige.partyW wendinoakland@beige.party

                                        @stepheneb @fathermcgruder @knud @sundogplanets Possibly relevant…?
                                        @evan @stefan

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                                        #119

                                        @wendinoakland @fathermcgruder @knud @sundogplanets @evan @stefan

                                        I realize that just having “Add Note for <user>” available when viewing a post that appended the link to the post into an editable field for my Note associated with my User would be super useful.

                                        In regard to blocking if I had previously thought about blocking but just saved a link to an earlier post I could review my actions.

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                                        • stepheneb@ruby.socialS stepheneb@ruby.social

                                          @wendinoakland @fathermcgruder @knud @sundogplanets @evan @stefan

                                          I realize that just having “Add Note for <user>” available when viewing a post that appended the link to the post into an editable field for my Note associated with my User would be super useful.

                                          In regard to blocking if I had previously thought about blocking but just saved a link to an earlier post I could review my actions.

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                                          #120

                                          @wendinoakland @fathermcgruder @knud @sundogplanets @evan @stefan

                                          When viewing a Note with links to Posts it would be useful to be able to tap and view the post if still available.

                                          If I wanted to I could also first select some text from the post and add that to Note also.

                                          This world also give me useful info if I wanted to review folks I had blocked to see if I want to unblock them.

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