```Datestodon — Fedi dating posts
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@alice one suggestion would be to not have overlapping letters. The M for Mid and Masc at the same time is...
(Also I did not get your intent there, I was trying to figure out the age group).
@adriano Yeah. I agree overlapping letters is not ideal.
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@BriBear it would be great if it was a pretty standard set of flags, but Friendstodon would designate looking for friends/gatherings, and Datestodon for romantic/dating.
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@adriano Yeah. I agree overlapping letters is not ideal.
@alice "so it's not so full of old guys looking for 18yo girls."
One could argue that if they exist (they do, but in this particular setting I mean), at least the particular hashtag makes them really easy to identify, the problem would be upriver from this.
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Datestodon — Fedi dating postsUsage:
#Datestodon #[AGE][ME]4[YOU] #LOCATION DESCRIPTIONAge:
Y 18–30s (younger)
A 30s–50s (adult)
O 50s+ (older)Gender:
F Femme
N Nonbinary/agender
M MascLooking for:
F Femme
N Nonbinary/agender
M Masc
A AnyExamples:
#Datestodon #AN4A #Seattle
Poly enby tomboy open to dates with FWB possibilities.#Datestodon #YF4M #Portland
20s femme rock-climber seeking fun guy.#Datestodon #OM4M #London
Gay 63yo - London area. Looking for partner.Notes:
- Codes are shorthand, not compatibility filters.
- Orientation and "YOU" age are intentionally not encoded.
- Use the description for sexuality, relationship style, preferences, boundaries, and anything else that matters.
- Multiple "YOU" categories may be combined when useful.
- Keep it human: read the post, respect boundaries, and don't treat codes as permission to contact someone.
```@alice I like it! Maybe standardize some categories on what people are looking for? I don't want to regiment it *too* much, because that's how you take all the humanity out of it! But do you think some general categories would help? Or is that going too far?
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@alice I like it! Maybe standardize some categories on what people are looking for? I don't want to regiment it *too* much, because that's how you take all the humanity out of it! But do you think some general categories would help? Or is that going too far?
@loonling I'd want to design to encourage "good behavior", so I'm partial to broad categories and short descriptions that encourages people to read rather than use filters.
It would be nice if you could browse he main hashtag to find folx to reach out to, or even better, be in a conversation with folx and just check their profile for a #Datestodon pinned post or bio.
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@loonling I'd want to design to encourage "good behavior", so I'm partial to broad categories and short descriptions that encourages people to read rather than use filters.
It would be nice if you could browse he main hashtag to find folx to reach out to, or even better, be in a conversation with folx and just check their profile for a #Datestodon pinned post or bio.
@loonling making it easily scrapable is a bad design, and I don't want it to turn into a numbers game. I'd want it to encourage folx who happen to be open to dating each other to interact with more intention, while not attracting people who are "cruising"—there are already enough sites for that.
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@BriBear I've met so many people from Fedi over he last few years, and they've all been wonderful 🥰
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@loonling making it easily scrapable is a bad design, and I don't want it to turn into a numbers game. I'd want it to encourage folx who happen to be open to dating each other to interact with more intention, while not attracting people who are "cruising"—there are already enough sites for that.
@alice These are all very good points, yes! Everything you've described here lends itself well to more organic discovery, something I appreciate when meeting people offline. I'm strongly in favor of systems that get people off of their devices and interacting with others IRL. Keeping it simple, organic, and messy (i.e. human) is the right approach here
In retrospect, I agree that adding categories or the like would make it scrapable and I wouldn't want that, either. The apps are all about that kind of filtering and just. It feels so minmax-y if you get what I mean? Like using sliders to design a "perfect" partner.That turned into a bit of a word salad ramble, but maybe there's something useful in it?
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Datestodon — Fedi dating postsUsage:
#Datestodon #[AGE][ME]4[YOU] #LOCATION DESCRIPTIONAge:
Y 18–30s (younger)
A 30s–50s (adult)
O 50s+ (older)Gender:
F Femme
N Nonbinary/agender
M MascLooking for:
F Femme
N Nonbinary/agender
M Masc
A AnyExamples:
#Datestodon #AN4A #Seattle
Poly enby tomboy open to dates with FWB possibilities.#Datestodon #YF4M #Portland
20s femme rock-climber seeking fun guy.#Datestodon #OM4M #London
Gay 63yo - London area. Looking for partner.Notes:
- Codes are shorthand, not compatibility filters.
- Orientation and "YOU" age are intentionally not encoded.
- Use the description for sexuality, relationship style, preferences, boundaries, and anything else that matters.
- Multiple "YOU" categories may be combined when useful.
- Keep it human: read the post, respect boundaries, and don't treat codes as permission to contact someone.
```@alice This is perfect!
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@BriBear @alice How soon can we start using the #Friendstodon hashtag because I am quite excited for it.
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Datestodon — Fedi dating postsUsage:
#Datestodon #[AGE][ME]4[YOU] #LOCATION DESCRIPTIONAge:
Y 18–30s (younger)
A 30s–50s (adult)
O 50s+ (older)Gender:
F Femme
N Nonbinary/agender
M MascLooking for:
F Femme
N Nonbinary/agender
M Masc
A AnyExamples:
#Datestodon #AN4A #Seattle
Poly enby tomboy open to dates with FWB possibilities.#Datestodon #YF4M #Portland
20s femme rock-climber seeking fun guy.#Datestodon #OM4M #London
Gay 63yo - London area. Looking for partner.Notes:
- Codes are shorthand, not compatibility filters.
- Orientation and "YOU" age are intentionally not encoded.
- Use the description for sexuality, relationship style, preferences, boundaries, and anything else that matters.
- Multiple "YOU" categories may be combined when useful.
- Keep it human: read the post, respect boundaries, and don't treat codes as permission to contact someone.
```@alice
Dang it, mid. Now I feel old! -
@alice
Dang it, mid. Now I feel old! -
@alice These are all very good points, yes! Everything you've described here lends itself well to more organic discovery, something I appreciate when meeting people offline. I'm strongly in favor of systems that get people off of their devices and interacting with others IRL. Keeping it simple, organic, and messy (i.e. human) is the right approach here
In retrospect, I agree that adding categories or the like would make it scrapable and I wouldn't want that, either. The apps are all about that kind of filtering and just. It feels so minmax-y if you get what I mean? Like using sliders to design a "perfect" partner.That turned into a bit of a word salad ramble, but maybe there's something useful in it?
@loonling I made some improvements and formatted it nicely for markdown (I hope
). Thanks for the feedback 
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Datestodon — Fedi dating postsUsage:
#Datestodon #[AGE][ME]4[YOU] #LOCATION DESCRIPTIONAge:
Y 18–30s (younger)
A 30s–50s (adult)
O 50s+ (older)Gender:
F Femme
N Nonbinary/agender
M MascLooking for:
F Femme
N Nonbinary/agender
M Masc
A AnyExamples:
#Datestodon #AN4A #Seattle
Poly enby tomboy open to dates with FWB possibilities.#Datestodon #YF4M #Portland
20s femme rock-climber seeking fun guy.#Datestodon #OM4M #London
Gay 63yo - London area. Looking for partner.Notes:
- Codes are shorthand, not compatibility filters.
- Orientation and "YOU" age are intentionally not encoded.
- Use the description for sexuality, relationship style, preferences, boundaries, and anything else that matters.
- Multiple "YOU" categories may be combined when useful.
- Keep it human: read the post, respect boundaries, and don't treat codes as permission to contact someone.
```@alice seems cool
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```
Datestodon — Fedi dating postsUsage:
#Datestodon #[AGE][ME]4[YOU] #LOCATION DESCRIPTIONAge:
Y 18–30s (younger)
A 30s–50s (adult)
O 50s+ (older)Gender:
F Femme
N Nonbinary/agender
M MascLooking for:
F Femme
N Nonbinary/agender
M Masc
A AnyExamples:
#Datestodon #AN4A #Seattle
Poly enby tomboy open to dates with FWB possibilities.#Datestodon #YF4M #Portland
20s femme rock-climber seeking fun guy.#Datestodon #OM4M #London
Gay 63yo - London area. Looking for partner.Notes:
- Codes are shorthand, not compatibility filters.
- Orientation and "YOU" age are intentionally not encoded.
- Use the description for sexuality, relationship style, preferences, boundaries, and anything else that matters.
- Multiple "YOU" categories may be combined when useful.
- Keep it human: read the post, respect boundaries, and don't treat codes as permission to contact someone.
```@alice
Can we think of some different way to represent age? I'm not sure how many people will be willing to call themselves "Old". I presume that's what "O" stands for.Perhaps Rare, Medium, and Well done?
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```
Datestodon — Fedi dating postsUsage:
#Datestodon #[AGE][ME]4[YOU] #LOCATION DESCRIPTIONAge:
Y 18–30s (younger)
A 30s–50s (adult)
O 50s+ (older)Gender:
F Femme
N Nonbinary/agender
M MascLooking for:
F Femme
N Nonbinary/agender
M Masc
A AnyExamples:
#Datestodon #AN4A #Seattle
Poly enby tomboy open to dates with FWB possibilities.#Datestodon #YF4M #Portland
20s femme rock-climber seeking fun guy.#Datestodon #OM4M #London
Gay 63yo - London area. Looking for partner.Notes:
- Codes are shorthand, not compatibility filters.
- Orientation and "YOU" age are intentionally not encoded.
- Use the description for sexuality, relationship style, preferences, boundaries, and anything else that matters.
- Multiple "YOU" categories may be combined when useful.
- Keep it human: read the post, respect boundaries, and don't treat codes as permission to contact someone.
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@alice
Can we think of some different way to represent age? I'm not sure how many people will be willing to call themselves "Old". I presume that's what "O" stands for.Perhaps Rare, Medium, and Well done?
@Quasit I went back and forth on a bunch of options, and the relative set "younger, adult, older" seemed the set with the fewest issues, but I'm still not very happy with it.
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@Quasit I went back and forth on a bunch of options, and the relative set "younger, adult, older" seemed the set with the fewest issues, but I'm still not very happy with it.
I was working on possibilities, but maybe it would be better to keep things simple.
One thing I've been wondering is if it's possible to search based on more than one hashtag at a time. For example, could you search for partners of the appropriate criteria in the location of my choice?
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@Quasit I'm open to arguments either way, but I figured that dating is just a part of local life, so it could be included in the general location hashtag. That also makes it more discoverable when just looking at local posts.
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I was working on possibilities, but maybe it would be better to keep things simple.
One thing I've been wondering is if it's possible to search based on more than one hashtag at a time. For example, could you search for partners of the appropriate criteria in the location of my choice?
@Quasit well, the location tag doesn't have to be *your* location (for instance if you're moving somewhere or visit regularly). I think it's fine to include a couple locations if you split time too.
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