This is depressing.
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@dilmandila There's not a good FOSS alternative to InDesign either. There's Affinity, which is 'free', but owned by Canva, so not really. And no Linux version. Sure, there's LaTex and its cousins, but good luck getting the designers to work with that. I don't even really want to work with that. Back in the day, I used FrameMaker for everything, but Adobe has ruined that too.
@maccruiskeen @dilmandila Scribus
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@howtophil @dilmandila Is it? I tried it some years ago and it was crap.
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@howtophil @dilmandila Is it? I tried it some years ago and it was crap.
@maccruiskeen @dilmandila I've used it for many things. It's great. Maybe your issue is that you were expecting the same exact user interface you were using in InDesign and Scribus, not being a clone but an alternative, does not have the exact same interface.
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@dilmandila @Gargron I love Gimp! Because of it, I don't even know how to work on Photoshop. But, TBF, I'm not a pro user.
@diraquel @dilmandila @Gargron@mastodon.social my main gripe with the GNU Image Manipulation Program— and by extension, its maintainers —is that their chosen acronym/name is literally a slur for disabled people and they apparently chose it that way with that in mind/on purpose because they thought it would be funny.
The program itself is very useful and I use it frequently.
Unfortunately many very nice pieces of software are made by utter tools.
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@maccruiskeen @dilmandila I've used it for many things. It's great. Maybe your issue is that you were expecting the same exact user interface you were using in InDesign and Scribus, not being a clone but an alternative, does not have the exact same interface.
@howtophil @dilmandila That was not it. I've used FrameMaker, Quark, InDesign, other things. Scribus seemed like a toy. It couldn't manage a book-length document.
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@howtophil @dilmandila That was not it. I've used FrameMaker, Quark, InDesign, other things. Scribus seemed like a toy. It couldn't manage a book-length document.
@maccruiskeen @dilmandila Sounds like a lack of familiarity with the software to me but you do you man /shrug
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@maccruiskeen @dilmandila Sounds like a lack of familiarity with the software to me but you do you man /shrug
@howtophil @dilmandila Well, I downloaded it to have another look. It seems better--it didn't choke on 200 pages of text--but still seems a little lacking. Like, why is hyphenation control document-wide? That's a weird choice. And you can set number of hyphens, but not number of characters before and after? You can set min word spacing, but not max. It appears to have a web-pdf output facility (but no epub), but no accessibility features. So that's useless. Does search support regex? The very limited documentation isn't clear. Initial laying-on of hands suggests it still has a ways to go.
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@randygalbraith @dilmandila My exact setup as well haha
@cuirass_entertainment @randygalbraith @dilmandila for us it's Fedora, Krita and a XPpen Artist Pro for our oldest. Mostly thanks to the wonderful articles by @davidrevoy
Since this is a Wintendo free gamer household I was really happy that this combination worked out great and we didn't have to introduce her to Adobe products at all.
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This is depressing. Perfectly good alternatives to all Adobe have existed for many years and are used at pro level, but someone hallucinates some code with claude (which I hear was trained on code of programs like gimp and inkscape) and suddenly everyone is raving about it being the end of Adobe, though the thing they praise is at best entry level stuff. But like other snake oil sellers, they claim it will get there, though their "in one month" is now "many months" #artcraft #foss
@dilmandila At some point it's going to tread on one of Adobe's patents then it's over I think. There's absolutely no way Adobe will turn a blind eye to someone literally trying to duplicate their products.
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@cuirass_entertainment @randygalbraith @dilmandila for us it's Fedora, Krita and a XPpen Artist Pro for our oldest. Mostly thanks to the wonderful articles by @davidrevoy
Since this is a Wintendo free gamer household I was really happy that this combination worked out great and we didn't have to introduce her to Adobe products at all.
@bekopharm @cuirass_entertainment @dilmandila @davidrevoy I have 4 daughters (age 38 to 23). My 2nd and 4th pursue art. For my 2nd it was GIMP and 4th was Krita. The banter I have with my 4th orbits around GIMP being the program for older people. Of course I use GIMP but only to crop and scale photos. Cheers, -Randy
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This is depressing. Perfectly good alternatives to all Adobe have existed for many years and are used at pro level, but someone hallucinates some code with claude (which I hear was trained on code of programs like gimp and inkscape) and suddenly everyone is raving about it being the end of Adobe, though the thing they praise is at best entry level stuff. But like other snake oil sellers, they claim it will get there, though their "in one month" is now "many months" #artcraft #foss
@dilmandila Honestly, that part isn't particularly depressing to me. What is depressing is this list of supposedly FOSS projects that have bought into the "AI" scam. Including, of course, the Linux kernel itself.
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@dilmandila Same thoughts here... But most people also claim that they need Microsoft Word because you can't get anything done with LibreOffice. Or that they actually need Photoshop instead of Gimp. Hell, let them vibecode what they feel like. At least it's open source and it might dispell some of the magic of pricey closed software. Personally I always believed that software should be free and with AI there's much less incentive to steal code anyway...
@dr_laemmerbein @dilmandila My big issue with Libreoffice is that the video embed is not great in Impress. And as a college adjunct, I need solid equivalent functioning there.
But I use writer and calc often.
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