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  • bovine3dom@masto.aiB bovine3dom@masto.ai

    @Sobex the rules say nothing about the means of transport you need to use for strategic retreats

    @jon @taavi @stefanlindbohm

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    #225

    @bovine3dom @Sobex @taavi @stefanlindbohm right. But as stated, I don’t know if it’d work!

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      @bovine3dom @Sobex @stefanlindbohm if I knew *for sure* that the Haparanda - Boden would run tomorrow morning, maybe that is not the worst idea. But I don't know that for sure, so it is too risky!

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      @jon Stats on the link below. I don’t think this page differentiates train not even scheduled from train cancelled (there have been track works this year that I assume explains many days not running), but despite some frequent delays it looks like at least outright cancellations are uncommon.

      Since the cause was an overhead wire torn down by another train, it’s not specifically a systemic issue here.

      I don’t dare making a judgement call though.

      https://statistik.xn--tgexperterna-tcb.nu/punktlighet/7183

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        Looks like the 13:47 Haparanda - Boden is *also* cancelled So I *might* be able to leave Haparanda at 19:38, and then get the night train at 22:18 from Boden

        So I *might* be able to leave Haparanda at 19:38, and then get the night train at 22:18 from Boden to Stockholm - have reserved a (cancellable) bed on that in case it does work 🙂

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        #227

        @jon Swedish night trains work really well with Interrail, I‘ll give them that.

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        • tml@mementomori.socialT tml@mementomori.social

          @jon @nafmo @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm Well, I guess if Trafikverket says they need the whole line Boden–Murjek for urgent maintenance, Norrtåg can not say "but we only need to use it for a couple of kilometres a couple of times per day pretty please!?" Ordnung muss sein! Safety First!

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          #228

          @tml @jon @nafmo @sebwilken @stefanlindbohm Once upon a time, Haparandabanan had it's own exit from Boden. Things don't always improve. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK6i7KZiE6s

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          • hopla@zug.networkH hopla@zug.network

            @jon Oh gosh.. and Sweden doesn't strike me as the country who neglects railway infrastructure, there's so much more to possibly happen but I didn't expect the first hiccup that early into the adventure! This is interesting and thrilling

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            @hopla @jon Our maintenance deficit was calculated to something like 150 years to catch up on, excluding new maintenance that will be needed during those 150 years 😅😅

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            • jonas_bostrom@mastodonsweden.seJ jonas_bostrom@mastodonsweden.se

              @tml @jon @nafmo @sebwilken @stefanlindbohm Once upon a time, Haparandabanan had it's own exit from Boden. Things don't always improve. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK6i7KZiE6s

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              #230

              @Jonas_Bostrom This is the video I used to locate the power section boards and figure out that it’s using the same power section to Murjek 😅

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              • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

                @jon Stats on the link below. I don’t think this page differentiates train not even scheduled from train cancelled (there have been track works this year that I assume explains many days not running), but despite some frequent delays it looks like at least outright cancellations are uncommon.

                Since the cause was an overhead wire torn down by another train, it’s not specifically a systemic issue here.

                I don’t dare making a judgement call though.

                https://statistik.xn--tgexperterna-tcb.nu/punktlighet/7183

                @bovine3dom @Sobex

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                #231

                @stefanlindbohm ooh punycode. don't see that often in europe

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                • jonas_bostrom@mastodonsweden.seJ jonas_bostrom@mastodonsweden.se

                  @tml @jon @nafmo @sebwilken @stefanlindbohm Once upon a time, Haparandabanan had it's own exit from Boden. Things don't always improve. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK6i7KZiE6s

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                  #232

                  @Jonas_Bostrom @jon @nafmo @sebwilken @stefanlindbohm Wow, that was a weird solution. The line to Haparanda was on the *left* when leaving Boden and had to curve around and pass over Malmbanan on a bridge. Or did I misunderstand?

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                  • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

                    @Jonas_Bostrom This is the video I used to locate the power section boards and figure out that it’s using the same power section to Murjek 😅

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                    #233

                    @stefanlindbohm Hyttfilmer kan vara användbara till både det ena och det andra!

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                    • tml@mementomori.socialT tml@mementomori.social

                      @Jonas_Bostrom @jon @nafmo @sebwilken @stefanlindbohm Wow, that was a weird solution. The line to Haparanda was on the *left* when leaving Boden and had to curve around and pass over Malmbanan on a bridge. Or did I misunderstand?

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                      #234

                      @tml @Jonas_Bostrom I also found that a bit odd. Presumably because the platforms are by the leftmost tracks at Boden C station?

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                      • sebwilken@mastodon.socialS sebwilken@mastodon.social

                        @jon Swedish night trains work really well with Interrail, I‘ll give them that.

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                        #235

                        @sebwilken Right, and that tickets can all be cancelled right up to the last minute!

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                        • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

                          @tml @Jonas_Bostrom I also found that a bit odd. Presumably because the platforms are by the leftmost tracks at Boden C station?

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                          @stefanlindbohm @tml Det stämmer, och det var en väldigt udda lösning. Min gissning är att det var för att tågen från Haparanda skulle kunna ta sig till perrongerna utan att störa trafiken på Malmbanan.

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            Looks like the 13:47 Haparanda - Boden is *also* cancelled So I *might* be able to leave Haparanda at 19:38, and then get the night train at 22:18 from Boden

                            So I *might* be able to leave Haparanda at 19:38, and then get the night train at 22:18 from Boden to Stockholm - have reserved a (cancellable) bed on that in case it does work 🙂

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                            @jon +waves pompoms+ 🚂

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                            • tml@mementomori.socialT tml@mementomori.social

                              @Jonas_Bostrom @jon @nafmo @sebwilken @stefanlindbohm Wow, that was a weird solution. The line to Haparanda was on the *left* when leaving Boden and had to curve around and pass over Malmbanan on a bridge. Or did I misunderstand?

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                              #238

                              @tml @Jonas_Bostrom @jon @nafmo @sebwilken @stefanlindbohm It would have made more sense if the line between Boden C and the junction had been double track.

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                              • violanders@mastodon.nuV violanders@mastodon.nu

                                @tml @Jonas_Bostrom @jon @nafmo @sebwilken @stefanlindbohm It would have made more sense if the line between Boden C and the junction had been double track.

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                                #239

                                @tml @Jonas_Bostrom @jon @nafmo @sebwilken @stefanlindbohm My bad - it was double track! The Haparanda line was unelectrified.

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                                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                  And why there is a 6 finger hand on the train door, thanks to @saruwine - 2006 article https://yle.fi/aihe/a/20-24799

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                                  @jon Aha! This is a totally different explanation-story then one would expect nowadays. Amazing. Thanks for posting 🖖🏼

                                  @saruwine

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                                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                    Looks like the 13:47 Haparanda - Boden is *also* cancelled So I *might* be able to leave Haparanda at 19:38, and then get the night train at 22:18 from Boden

                                    So I *might* be able to leave Haparanda at 19:38, and then get the night train at 22:18 from Boden to Stockholm - have reserved a (cancellable) bed on that in case it does work 🙂

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                                    @jon
                                    Did you expect being stopped in your tracks so soon in the trip? Or was Sweden always a risky country to cross?

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                                    • violanders@mastodon.nuV violanders@mastodon.nu

                                      @tml @Jonas_Bostrom @jon @nafmo @sebwilken @stefanlindbohm My bad - it was double track! The Haparanda line was unelectrified.

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                                      @violanders No, it was two single track lines next to each other. @tml @jon @nafmo @sebwilken @stefanlindbohm

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                                      • jonas_bostrom@mastodonsweden.seJ jonas_bostrom@mastodonsweden.se

                                        @violanders No, it was two single track lines next to each other. @tml @jon @nafmo @sebwilken @stefanlindbohm

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                                        @Jonas_Bostrom @tml @jon @nafmo @sebwilken @stefanlindbohm

                                        The whole story is this: From the beginning (1900) the Haparanda line had its own track all the way to Boden C, parallell to Malmbanan ("the Ore line".) 1921 the ore train bypass at Boden C was built and Malmbanan and the Haparanda line switched tracks north of Boden with the Haparanda line crossing Malmbanan by bridge. The purpose was to minimise the conflicts between the iron ore trains and other traffic. ->

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                                        • violanders@mastodon.nuV violanders@mastodon.nu

                                          @Jonas_Bostrom @tml @jon @nafmo @sebwilken @stefanlindbohm

                                          The whole story is this: From the beginning (1900) the Haparanda line had its own track all the way to Boden C, parallell to Malmbanan ("the Ore line".) 1921 the ore train bypass at Boden C was built and Malmbanan and the Haparanda line switched tracks north of Boden with the Haparanda line crossing Malmbanan by bridge. The purpose was to minimise the conflicts between the iron ore trains and other traffic. ->

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                                          @Jonas_Bostrom @tml @jon @nafmo @sebwilken @stefanlindbohm -> Around the year 2000 the western part of the Haparanda line was rebuilt for heavier trains and this is when the parallell track and the bridge were removed since the line had (and has) so little traffic that the parallell tracks and the bridge weren't needed.

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