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  • dazo@infosec.exchangeD dazo@infosec.exchange

    @leffe @bettina @jens AppLounge er en appstore som gjør PlayStore unødvendig. Alternativt kan man bruke Aurora Store, men det er i praksis det samme.

    Utfordringen er mer i Play Services (eller hva det nå heter; det har vært noen navnebytter igjennom årene). microG (eller App Compatibility, som det heter i /e/OS etter v4.0) er erstatningen, som skal fylle ut funksjonaliteten til Play Services. Men Play Services har stadig nyere integritetssjekker apper kan bruke, som da gir en utfordring for microG. Google Play Services er ikke open source, som gjør at microGutviklerne må gjøre en del reverse engineering for å implementere sin løsning.

    Det er gode ting med disse integritetssjekkene i prinsippet. Men Google (mis)bruker dette til å ekskludere konkurrenter.

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    #34

    @dazo @bettina @jens

    From Wikipedia:

    The SafetyNet Attestation API (one of the four APIs under the SafetyNet umbrella) has been deprecated. As of 6 October 2023, Google planned to replace it with the Play Integrity API by the end of January 2025. The transition ended on 20 May 2025, breaking applications which hadn't been updated. These attestations are offered by Google Play Services and thus are not available on free Android environments, like AOSP. Therefore, developers can require the API to be available and may refuse to execute on AOSP builds.

    #GooglePlayIntegrity

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    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

      @anderslund @bettina @murena Seconded! Var lige på vej til at sige det samme.

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      #35

      @CiaraNi Tak!

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      • dazo@infosec.exchangeD dazo@infosec.exchange

        @bettina @murena Dette virker til å være "ønsket" fra dem. Mener at MobilePay er et søsterselskap til Vipps i Norge. Og det er samme problem her også. Har FP4 med /e/OS preinstallert fra Murena. Vipps fungerer i perioder, for så å stoppe opp i en lengre periode.

        Vipps selv har sagt at det er krav fra Visa og MasterCard. Noe som er vrøvl, for da burde ikke CurvePay fungere og iallefall ikke med NFC betaling. Heller ikke PayPal og et hav av andre bank og apper som håndterer kortopplysninger burde fungert.

        At man har valgt løsninger i en app som skal behandle betalinger så tett opp mot et av verdens største selskaper som driver med datainnsamling som hovedgeskjeft (altså Google) er totalt uforståelig for meg. Og så skylde på krav fra to andre amerikanske institusjoner (Visa, MasterCard) viser en total mangel på ryggrad.

        </rant>

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        #36

        @dazo Netop! Håber min klage også afspejler dette... forsøgte bare at sige det så pænt som muligt... Men inden i:

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        • leffe@social.linux.pizzaL leffe@social.linux.pizza

          @dazo @bettina @jens

          From Wikipedia:

          The SafetyNet Attestation API (one of the four APIs under the SafetyNet umbrella) has been deprecated. As of 6 October 2023, Google planned to replace it with the Play Integrity API by the end of January 2025. The transition ended on 20 May 2025, breaking applications which hadn't been updated. These attestations are offered by Google Play Services and thus are not available on free Android environments, like AOSP. Therefore, developers can require the API to be available and may refuse to execute on AOSP builds.

          #GooglePlayIntegrity

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          #37

          @leffe @bettina @jens microG har støtte for Integrity, men den fungerer nok ikke optimalt.

          https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/releases/tag/v0.3.6.244735

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          • dazo@infosec.exchangeD dazo@infosec.exchange

            @leffe @bettina @jens microG har støtte for Integrity, men den fungerer nok ikke optimalt.

            https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/releases/tag/v0.3.6.244735

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            #38

            @dazo @bettina @jens

            Kan någon pröva att starta apparna My Renault och The Official MTA App på /e/OS eller Sailfish?

            De fungerade inte på standard Android utan Play Store. (Konto är inte nödvändigt).

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            • dazo@infosec.exchangeD dazo@infosec.exchange

              @leffe @bettina @jens microG har støtte for Integrity, men den fungerer nok ikke optimalt.

              https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/releases/tag/v0.3.6.244735

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              #39

              @leffe @bettina @jens Denne kan nok gi en indikasjon ... Play Integrity API Checker
              https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gr.nikolasspyr.integritycheck

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              • leffe@social.linux.pizzaL leffe@social.linux.pizza

                @dazo @bettina @jens

                Kan någon pröva att starta apparna My Renault och The Official MTA App på /e/OS eller Sailfish?

                De fungerade inte på standard Android utan Play Store. (Konto är inte nödvändigt).

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                #40

                @dazo @bettina @jens

                Såg just detta:

                https://rcsocial.net/@krixec/117118324486222608

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                • leffe@social.linux.pizzaL leffe@social.linux.pizza

                  @dazo @bettina @jens

                  Kan någon pröva att starta apparna My Renault och The Official MTA App på /e/OS eller Sailfish?

                  De fungerade inte på standard Android utan Play Store. (Konto är inte nödvändigt).

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                  #41

                  @leffe @dazo @jens Det fungerer fint på min /e/OS 4.1.1-a.15 på Fairphone 5, ser det ud til?

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                  • dazo@infosec.exchangeD dazo@infosec.exchange

                    @leffe @bettina @jens Denne kan nok gi en indikasjon ... Play Integrity API Checker
                    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gr.nikolasspyr.integritycheck

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                    #42

                    @dazo @leffe @jens Ja, den installerede jeg i foråret, var det vist, og den fejler på alle tre parametre.

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                    • bettina@mastodon.nuB bettina@mastodon.nu

                      #MobilePay #DanmarkSkifter

                      Inspireret af Martin Nielsen på eOS-community har jeg nu sendt en ny klage til MobilePay over, at de udelukker mit styresystem Murena /e/OS, og bruger "sikkerhed" som argumentation: https://community.e.foundation/t/mobilepay-issues-continued/83138/70

                      Kan læses her på dansk: https://www.hartmannconsulting.dk/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/20260815-klage-til-MobilePay-over-at-udelukke-mit-styresystem-Murena-eOS.pdf

                      Complaint in English - that MobilePay blocks out Murena /e/OS and uses "security" as the reason: https://www.hartmannconsulting.dk/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/20260815-complaint-to-MobilePay-in-ENGLISH.pdf

                      @murena

                      #OpenSource
                      #Linux

                      tuneintodetuned@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #43

                      @bettina
                      They should ask a professional to audit their definition of security then.
                      @murena

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                      • bettina@mastodon.nuB bettina@mastodon.nu

                        #MobilePay #DanmarkSkifter

                        Inspireret af Martin Nielsen på eOS-community har jeg nu sendt en ny klage til MobilePay over, at de udelukker mit styresystem Murena /e/OS, og bruger "sikkerhed" som argumentation: https://community.e.foundation/t/mobilepay-issues-continued/83138/70

                        Kan læses her på dansk: https://www.hartmannconsulting.dk/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/20260815-klage-til-MobilePay-over-at-udelukke-mit-styresystem-Murena-eOS.pdf

                        Complaint in English - that MobilePay blocks out Murena /e/OS and uses "security" as the reason: https://www.hartmannconsulting.dk/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/20260815-complaint-to-MobilePay-in-ENGLISH.pdf

                        @murena

                        #OpenSource
                        #Linux

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                        #44

                        @bettina Great initiative, thanks for your support!

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