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Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @admin @Huntn00

    what you just wrote is a lie

    your first rank gets your vote. if they don't win, your second choice gets your vote

    so you can vote your conscience, without worrying that your vote will divide the left and hand a win to trump. which is what happens with a 3rd party vote in fptp

    again: fact. not opinion

    why would you lie about this

    it's quite obvious what it is

    mathematicians have studied this. you can't deny reality just with your feelings

    admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.netA This user is from outside of this forum
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    admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.net
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #162

    @benroyce

    Also, that's the last time you're going to call me a liar.

    There is nothing further to be gained from this discussion.

    @Huntn00

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @tuban_muzuru

      i don't think canadians are ceasing to come because i got on social media and said the usa sucks

      i do think canadians are ceasing to come because an orange turd got on social media and threatened to annex them

      the question is why the orange turd can do that

      and the answer is because enough couldn't be bothered to vote, and enough are ignorants who love bigotry, that he is in power

      it's not anything we control anymore

      we had control, and we blew it

      we better vote next time

      naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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      naturemc@mastodon.online
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #163

      @benroyce @tuban_muzuru Just speaking for Europe: It doesn't matter what is said in social media.
      We have warnings by our Foreign ministries how to behave, and we read in our newspapers how innocent tourists were either prevented from entering the United States in the first place, or were repeatedly detained and hidden away in dubious prison camps before our embassies secured their release.
      These facts are enough, we don't need social media. Your government does enough to keep people away.

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      • tuban_muzuru@beige.partyT tuban_muzuru@beige.party

        @Huntn00 @benroyce

        What's your explanation for the alienated Democratic voter - and there are a lot of us.

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        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #164

        @tuban_muzuru @benroyce It’s my explanation about why foreigners should not be spending $$$ in the TSA. Ok, listen, if you’re alienated, the last thing you want is to be ruled by fascists. Some pragmatism is required, relative good vs bad, move in steps, you won’t find perfect, chose better.

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

          #FIFA is holding an emergency meeting

          Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)

          As an American: don't come here

          Don't do business with the #USA

          Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates

          https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/

          #Boycott #BoycottUSA #Soccer #Football #Sports

          ohmu@social.seattle.wa.usO This user is from outside of this forum
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          ohmu@social.seattle.wa.us
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          #165

          @benroyce
          That would be just *awful* if the whole World Cup thing fizzled and turned into a normally manageable few weekends here in #Seattle instead of the freaking Defcon 1 situation we've been hearing about for over a year.

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          • J johnrohde@helvede.net

            @benroyce There is also a european wide campaign going to migrate away from US big tech. That one is going to hurt even more.
            So far I've gotten rid of the streaming services, the social media, Microsoft and amazon. I'm currently working on leaving Google but that one is a bit more tricky.

            huntn00@mastodon.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
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            huntn00@mastodon.world
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #166

            @johnrohde @benroyce It is the only way it will register on the Bs…
            which should not even exist, as they are a huge part of our problems. 😳

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @admin @Huntn00

              what you just wrote is a lie

              your first rank gets your vote. if they don't win, your second choice gets your vote

              so you can vote your conscience, without worrying that your vote will divide the left and hand a win to trump. which is what happens with a 3rd party vote in fptp

              again: fact. not opinion

              why would you lie about this

              it's quite obvious what it is

              mathematicians have studied this. you can't deny reality just with your feelings

              benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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              benroyce@mastodon.social
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #167

              @admin @Huntn00

              and... blocked

              😂

              it's like arguing with an antivaxxer

              they just don't want to accept reality

              they have their belief. their belief is false. hard, cold false

              but they won't hear it. their mind is shut

              willful ignorance

              this person is actively supporting trump, and has absolutely no clue that is all they are doing. in the reality of the voting system. their intentions may be great. but math doesn't lie

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

                #FIFA is holding an emergency meeting

                Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)

                As an American: don't come here

                Don't do business with the #USA

                Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates

                https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/

                #Boycott #BoycottUSA #Soccer #Football #Sports

                chx@chx.contactC This user is from outside of this forum
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                chx@chx.contact
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #168

                @benroyce This is unsourced fake news.

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                • chx@chx.contactC chx@chx.contact

                  @benroyce This is unsourced fake news.

                  benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #169

                  @chx

                  care to explain?

                  i checked out the site before posting

                  they are a reputable niche site devoted to ticketing news. headquartered in connecticut, founded in 2006

                  https://muckrack.com/media-outlet/ticketnews

                  but yes, fakery on social media is a problem in the world

                  such as your comment

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                  • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                    @benroyce @tuban_muzuru Just speaking for Europe: It doesn't matter what is said in social media.
                    We have warnings by our Foreign ministries how to behave, and we read in our newspapers how innocent tourists were either prevented from entering the United States in the first place, or were repeatedly detained and hidden away in dubious prison camps before our embassies secured their release.
                    These facts are enough, we don't need social media. Your government does enough to keep people away.

                    riaresists@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                    riaresists@mastodon.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #170

                    @NatureMC @benroyce @tuban_muzuru And we all wish we could get away.

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                    • admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.netA admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.net

                      @benroyce

                      From the way I understand it, ranked choice requires all candidates to get a vote, in order....

                      I can't *ONLY* vote for the candidates that I want in office, I *MUST* rank all the candidates in order of preference.

                      If my candidate doesn't win, then my "second choice" (which isn't someone I want in office) gets my vote.

                      This is not how I wish to vote.

                      @Huntn00

                      huntn00@mastodon.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
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                      huntn00@mastodon.world
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #171

                      @admin @benroyce I’ve already described ranked choice to you. Apparently you don’t want to believe how it works.
                      • Primarily it removes the spoiler effect, and allows you to vote for you really want and not worry about wasting your vote.
                      • it allows you to pick your green or ultra conservative candidate.
                      • but if your first choice fails to win, your second preference, the moderate can still prevail maybe.
                      That’s all I’ll say about it, accept it or not.

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                      • admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.netA admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.net

                        @Huntn00

                        Actually, I do...

                        Ranked Choice means that if the candidate I do like doesn't get enough votes, then the candidates I don't like can "steal" my vote.

                        Now, tell me, why would I want a candidate that I don't want in office (which describes the last 8 elections - or more - in the US for me) to be able to count my vote for them, rather than for the candidate for which I wish to vote?

                        @benroyce

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                        huntn00@mastodon.world
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #172

                        @admin @benroyce You are absolutely incorrect.

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                        • huntn00@mastodon.worldH huntn00@mastodon.world

                          @admin @benroyce I’ve already described ranked choice to you. Apparently you don’t want to believe how it works.
                          • Primarily it removes the spoiler effect, and allows you to vote for you really want and not worry about wasting your vote.
                          • it allows you to pick your green or ultra conservative candidate.
                          • but if your first choice fails to win, your second preference, the moderate can still prevail maybe.
                          That’s all I’ll say about it, accept it or not.

                          benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                          benroyce@mastodon.social
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #173

                          @Huntn00 @admin

                          prepare to be blocked

                          😂

                          what a doorknob

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @tuban_muzuru

                            i don't think canadians are ceasing to come because i got on social media and said the usa sucks

                            i do think canadians are ceasing to come because an orange turd got on social media and threatened to annex them

                            the question is why the orange turd can do that

                            and the answer is because enough couldn't be bothered to vote, and enough are ignorants who love bigotry, that he is in power

                            it's not anything we control anymore

                            we had control, and we blew it

                            we better vote next time

                            nazani@universeodon.comN This user is from outside of this forum
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                            nazani@universeodon.com
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #174

                            @benroyce @tuban_muzuru There were a couple of stories about Canadian tourists being detained & mistreated. My guess is they read more than the US public does.

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                            • huntn00@mastodon.worldH huntn00@mastodon.world

                              @tuban_muzuru @benroyce It’s my explanation about why foreigners should not be spending $$$ in the TSA. Ok, listen, if you’re alienated, the last thing you want is to be ruled by fascists. Some pragmatism is required, relative good vs bad, move in steps, you won’t find perfect, chose better.

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                              isaackuo@spacey.space
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #175

                              @Huntn00 @tuban_muzuru @benroyce My "nuance" is that it is absolutely NOT SAFE for someone to visit the USA. Whether or not this financially hurts tourist business is, to me, entirely secondary to the more important safety considerations.

                              If we ever want tourists back, we need to make our country safe for them again, first.

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                              • riaresists@mastodon.socialR riaresists@mastodon.social

                                @NatureMC @benroyce @tuban_muzuru And we all wish we could get away.

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                                naturemc@mastodon.online
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #176

                                @RiaResists I feel you. Unfortunately we have the same dangers for the next elections in several countries, fired by propaganda for the far-right coming from Putin and Trump at the same time.
                                @benroyce @tuban_muzuru

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

                                  #FIFA is holding an emergency meeting

                                  Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)

                                  As an American: don't come here

                                  Don't do business with the #USA

                                  Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates

                                  https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/

                                  #Boycott #BoycottUSA #Soccer #Football #Sports

                                  atjack@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  atjack@mastodon.social
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #177

                                  @benroyce, do you have links to more article about it?

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @chx

                                    care to explain?

                                    i checked out the site before posting

                                    they are a reputable niche site devoted to ticketing news. headquartered in connecticut, founded in 2006

                                    https://muckrack.com/media-outlet/ticketnews

                                    but yes, fakery on social media is a problem in the world

                                    such as your comment

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                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #178

                                    @benroyce @chx
                                    Sounds like wishful thinking:
                                    1 - tickets can't be cancelled
                                    2 - what are 17k vs. more than 100m?

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                                    • atjack@mastodon.socialA atjack@mastodon.social

                                      @benroyce, do you have links to more article about it?

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                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #179

                                      @AtJack

                                      sure

                                      https://www.givemesport.com/thousands-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-usa-report/

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                                      • jotho@mastodon.socialJ jotho@mastodon.social

                                        @benroyce @chx
                                        Sounds like wishful thinking:
                                        1 - tickets can't be cancelled
                                        2 - what are 17k vs. more than 100m?

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                                        benroyce@mastodon.social
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                                        #180

                                        @jotho @chx

                                        "Given that FIFA has a strict no cancellation policy on sold tickets for the World Cup, it is likely that the figure is reflective of people cancelling their participation in the in the third phase of ticket sales for the event – either the “random draw” selection process, or purchase via member organizations."

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                                        • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                                          @RiaResists I feel you. Unfortunately we have the same dangers for the next elections in several countries, fired by propaganda for the far-right coming from Putin and Trump at the same time.
                                          @benroyce @tuban_muzuru

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                                          riaresists@mastodon.social
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #181

                                          @NatureMC @benroyce @tuban_muzuru
                                          Half of America have been fighting this since day one.
                                          Stupid Americans have contributed to the uprising of fascism around the world.
                                          They are unreachable & intentionally misinformed.

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