Every time a newcomer posts an introduction and somebody tells them they shouldn’t have joined Mastodon.social and need to move to a different server, an angel loses their wings.
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@johnlorimer @CiaraNi It's impossible to effectively moderate such a huge server, so you have this catch-22 where the server is a vector for spam and harassment, but can be seen as "too big to block" because such a large percentage of the network lives there.
Overall it's bad for the health of the Fediverse, so some block it regardless and advocate for folks moving off and the server closing registrations.
@annika @johnlorimer @CiaraNi End user should be moderating what they see. They shouldn’t have anyone telli g them what they can or can’t look at. Defats the entire purpose. Looks like spam? Block it. Racist motherfucker? Block it. It’s not hard… the tools are right there. Fuck the nanny shit. Let people do what they want, ignore those you don’t like. To enforce your will is tyranny, to accept is slavery.
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@Sarahw @CiaraNi @bleistifterin @rgarner Drink coffee. You don't have to be fussy how you add the cream. It al mixes together.
@wsrphoto @Sarahw @bleistifterin @rgarner Well that'd be one way of resolving the issue!
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@CiaraNi If you have time to debate how to pronounce Scone, I would argue you are not eating enough Scones.
@holsta Fair point. I have eaten no scones today. I should remedy this.
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Gen X Australian here, this thread and your post in particular resonated with me.
Arrived in Jan 2023 and encountered the "You're On The Big Bad Server" anti-welcome committee.
I get the arguments but it seemed to me there are better ways of mitigating than *checks notes* insulting new arrivals for choosing the default server.
It was enough to drive most fellow refugees to Bsky, but I dug my heels in instead.
️PS Am on Bsky too, but mostly here.
@imalcolm The 'anti-welcome committee' - that is what it feels like. They could just ignore and scroll by, but apparently feel the need to stand on the new neighbour's doorstep telling them to move. Am sorry you had that experience. Am glad you stayed.
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Ditto:
'Why are you still on Bluesky too?'
'But did you *delete* your Twitter account?'
’You said you switched to Proton mail too, oh that’s bad, once someone at Proton said something’
It’s nice to see new neighbours move into the Fediverse. It feels unwelcoming to see people immediately interview them about the purity of their intentions. Or telling them You’re Doing It Wrong. They've just arrived on a journey away from Big Tech. Maybe they'd prefer to be offered a seat and a cup of tea.
@CiaraNi
I left my first instance and considered leaving Mastodon behind entirely because I eventually grew tired of frequent admonitions from moderators about how to avoid offending perceived vulnerable minorities. It often felt like they would actually prefer you to wrap every post in a content warning, no matter how innocuous the subject.Of course, you shouldn’t be a jerk. But I also don’t want to feel like I have to weigh every word with extreme care just because it might offend someone.
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@schroedingerspossum
Haha that thought struck me too. It's a very Fediversey thread, in the best way. As is your excellent meme, which made me laugh aloud. -
@DavidBridger Well that explains it, that's where you have it from so. They just have to be different down there in Cork, they can't get over not being the capital
@CiaraNi The other half of my crowd are mainly from Glasgow which is the capital of Scotland, and Liverpool which is the capital of Liverpool. Everyone of them was and is socialist and right about things that matter. Like skons.
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@CiaraNi
I left my first instance and considered leaving Mastodon behind entirely because I eventually grew tired of frequent admonitions from moderators about how to avoid offending perceived vulnerable minorities. It often felt like they would actually prefer you to wrap every post in a content warning, no matter how innocuous the subject.Of course, you shouldn’t be a jerk. But I also don’t want to feel like I have to weigh every word with extreme care just because it might offend someone.
@mikill I agree with all of this, extremely so.
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@CiaraNi The other half of my crowd are mainly from Glasgow which is the capital of Scotland, and Liverpool which is the capital of Liverpool. Everyone of them was and is socialist and right about things that matter. Like skons.
@DavidBridger Haha, well this almost but not quite convinces me that Skon is a perfectly cromulent pronunciation.
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@annika To keep the answer simple - I think it is the only corner of the internet left that is worthwhile. It aligns with my values.
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@DavidBridger Haha, well this almost but not quite convinces me that Skon is a perfectly cromulent pronunciation.
@CiaraNi Perfectly so, I'd say.
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@johnlorimer @CiaraNi @annika
I saw the same thing happening with many of my former Twitter mutuals: exodus to Mastodon in late 2022 (when bsky did not even exist), then moving to bsky as soon as it opened up. -
@CiaraNi @PapyrusBrigade Agreed. When people are ready, they will move.
@WTL @PapyrusBrigade Agreed. If they want to move at all, of course. Stay, move - up to the individual.
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@mdreid Skwon! Well maybe if you're in the process of eating one, then with your mouth full that's what Scone sounds like
@CiaraNi @mdreid @jbenjamint @Wifiwits @DavidBridger Scone rhymes exactly with Doune (another very historic town just down the road).
Hope that helps.
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Every time a newcomer posts an introduction and somebody tells them they shouldn’t have joined Mastodon.social and need to move to a different server, an angel loses their wings.
@CiaraNi I’ve been slowing moving services away from big tech, the big one was moving away from Google photos
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@CiaraNi @mdreid @jbenjamint @Wifiwits @DavidBridger Scone rhymes exactly with Doune (another very historic town just down the road).
Hope that helps.
@jbenjamint @CiaraNi @mdreid @Wifiwits Purrfecto!
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The fact that the thread under this Serious Toot has ascended into a pleasant war about the correct way to pronounce Scone is why I love the Fediverse
@CiaraNi
A minor point of disagreement!
You might have ask whether the cream or the jam should go on first and sparked a civil war in Britain. -
@WTL @PapyrusBrigade Agreed. If they want to move at all, of course. Stay, move - up to the individual.
@CiaraNi @PapyrusBrigade Agreed. I really want the fediverse to succeed, and I worry about all these pile-ons of newcomers.
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@AncTreat5358 @franco_vazza Me too, with the hashtags. When I realised how they worked here and that I could *follow* a hashtag, that's when the Fediverse clicked for me. And the way they work as your own personal Content Warnings. Brilliant. Although I also, like you say, still stumble sometimes and forget to tag a toot with, for example, USPol.
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The fact that the thread under this Serious Toot has ascended into a pleasant war about the correct way to pronounce Scone is why I love the Fediverse
@CiaraNi We all know the real question is whether it’s jam or cream first…
