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  3. Anthropic spent billions of dollars to slice the spines off millions of books, including very rare ones.

Anthropic spent billions of dollars to slice the spines off millions of books, including very rare ones.

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  • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

    This is the magnificent library Anthropic amassed, before destroying it because it gave them a legal copyright loophole.

    #Anthropic #AI #Books #Culture #Tech #LLMs #Civilization

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    brewsterkahle@mastodon.archive.org
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    #70

    @dbattistella

    wouldn't it have been great if publishers SOLD ebooks, even at the price they charge for a printed book?

    but they do not. they license.

    And then buy each other.

    Living based on the rule of law, not the rule of licenses. I want that world.

    And it is causing all sorts of problems, and not just for libraries like the Internet Archive, but for authors etc etc.

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    • alterelefant@mastodontech.deA alterelefant@mastodontech.de

      @dbattistella
      Stop feeding the machine.

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      #71

      @alterelefant @dbattistella

      We were told not to feed the beast in the late 90's and early 2000's as it was obvious no good would come of it.

      So peeps decided to feed the corporate beast for the next two decades to the most extreme levels imaginable so it looked like Mr Creosote and could not take anymore.

      Seems better to say we should all feel sad for feeding the beast.

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      • sharpcheddargoblin@reclusive.blogS sharpcheddargoblin@reclusive.blog

        @dbattistella @driusan In capitalism, the laws exist to protect capitalists. That's it.

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        #72

        @sharpcheddargoblin @dbattistella @driusan
        Wilhoit: "There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

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        • bigheadmode@social.linux.pizzaB bigheadmode@social.linux.pizza

          @dbattistella Fact check: very likely.

          According to news.com.au -

          The slicing is "a video from Canada's ABTec Solutions demonstrates the process of cutting books' spines prior to scanning."

          The warehouse pic: "Court filings show a warehouse of books to be scanned by Anthropic. Picture: Washington Post"

          The original reporting seems to be from the great 404media, but it's paywalled.

          Technically, the books are scanned and "survive" on Anthropic data centers. But I highly doubt Anthropic or any "AI" company is going to try to resell, donate, etc. their digital copies, even having destroyed the original. So the world does lose a copy of the book without any gain for people who don't use Anthropic LLMs or IP.

          https://www.404media.co/ai-companies-are-buying-tons-of-old-books-because-theyre-free-of-ai-slop/

          https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/internet/ai-labs-buy-scan-shred-millions-of-rare-books/news-story/0c3b45a67093ab462a587a0348538ce9

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          #73

          @BigHeadMode
          Shades of "Rainbow's End"
          @dbattistella

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          • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

            Anthropic spent billions of dollars to slice the spines off millions of books, including very rare ones.

            AI companies are purchasing large quantities of used and rare books and scanning their contents to train LLMs. They then turn the originals to pulp.

            The sum of human thought, digitized and shredded. Every book that gets scanned disappears from the physical world permanently.

            Books that survived wars, fires, and centuries of handling are being shredded so an AI can learn to write a better marketing email.

            #AI #Books #Culture #Civilization #Tech #LLMs

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            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #74

            @dbattistella Who broke this story and where can I read more about this?

            Former Antrhopic fanboy until the very day they partnered with Palantir.

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            • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

              This is the magnificent library Anthropic amassed, before destroying it because it gave them a legal copyright loophole.

              #Anthropic #AI #Books #Culture #Tech #LLMs #Civilization

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              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #75

              @dbattistella@mstdn.ca 👀 Really wasting that vertical space

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              • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

                Anthropic spent billions of dollars to slice the spines off millions of books, including very rare ones.

                AI companies are purchasing large quantities of used and rare books and scanning their contents to train LLMs. They then turn the originals to pulp.

                The sum of human thought, digitized and shredded. Every book that gets scanned disappears from the physical world permanently.

                Books that survived wars, fires, and centuries of handling are being shredded so an AI can learn to write a better marketing email.

                #AI #Books #Culture #Civilization #Tech #LLMs

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                #76

                @dbattistella Absolutely criminal.

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                • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

                  Anthropic spent billions of dollars to slice the spines off millions of books, including very rare ones.

                  AI companies are purchasing large quantities of used and rare books and scanning their contents to train LLMs. They then turn the originals to pulp.

                  The sum of human thought, digitized and shredded. Every book that gets scanned disappears from the physical world permanently.

                  Books that survived wars, fires, and centuries of handling are being shredded so an AI can learn to write a better marketing email.

                  #AI #Books #Culture #Civilization #Tech #LLMs

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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #77

                  @dbattistella

                  This needs a cw.

                  No, I mean for real. It makes me too angry. I need a moment to collect myself before I can engage with this. Bet that's not just me, either.

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                  • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

                    This is the magnificent library Anthropic amassed, before destroying it because it gave them a legal copyright loophole.

                    #Anthropic #AI #Books #Culture #Tech #LLMs #Civilization

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                    #78

                    @dbattistella noooooooooooooo

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                    • condret@fedi.absturztau.beC condret@fedi.absturztau.be
                      @LeslieBurns @dbattistella read marx, please
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                      #79

                      @condret @LeslieBurns @dbattistella reading Marx would be hard without some form of copyright, because people couldn't make a living writing or producing books

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                      • derpumu@mstdn.gamesD derpumu@mstdn.games

                        @condret @LeslieBurns @dbattistella reading Marx would be hard without some form of copyright, because people couldn't make a living writing or producing books

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                        condret@fedi.absturztau.be
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                        #80
                        @DerPumu @LeslieBurns @dbattistella just download the pdf somewhere. also people could still make money from printing books, without copyright. they just could no longer create artificial scarcity by restricting others from also printing the same book.
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                        • ericbono@beige.partyE ericbono@beige.party

                          @dbattistella

                          Yet we've known how to scan intact books for the past six decades.

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                          noodlemaz@mstdn.games
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                          #81

                          @EricBono @dbattistella but wahh it costs some money wahh no way let's just trash them

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                          • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

                            Anthropic spent billions of dollars to slice the spines off millions of books, including very rare ones.

                            AI companies are purchasing large quantities of used and rare books and scanning their contents to train LLMs. They then turn the originals to pulp.

                            The sum of human thought, digitized and shredded. Every book that gets scanned disappears from the physical world permanently.

                            Books that survived wars, fires, and centuries of handling are being shredded so an AI can learn to write a better marketing email.

                            #AI #Books #Culture #Civilization #Tech #LLMs

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                            #82

                            @dbattistella Il s’agit d’une OPA hostile sur la pensée humaine. Une fois qu’ils auront confisqué tous les savoirs, ils auront le monopole radical de la connaissance.
                            Et cela leur donnera un pouvoir vertigineux.

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                            • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

                              Anthropic spent billions of dollars to slice the spines off millions of books, including very rare ones.

                              AI companies are purchasing large quantities of used and rare books and scanning their contents to train LLMs. They then turn the originals to pulp.

                              The sum of human thought, digitized and shredded. Every book that gets scanned disappears from the physical world permanently.

                              Books that survived wars, fires, and centuries of handling are being shredded so an AI can learn to write a better marketing email.

                              #AI #Books #Culture #Civilization #Tech #LLMs

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                              #83

                              @dbattistella This is a kind of modern "autodafé" and a true evil deed.

                              The knowledge and the stories in those books are, for some, lost for good. If tomorrow, Anthropic goes bankrupt, it will vanish in the void.

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                              • the_underground_sage@freeradical.zoneT the_underground_sage@freeradical.zone

                                @dbattistella Who broke this story and where can I read more about this?

                                Former Antrhopic fanboy until the very day they partnered with Palantir.

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                                #84

                                @The_Underground_Sage @dbattistella

                                There's an article about this here :

                                https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/ai-companies-destroying-rare-books

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                                • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

                                  Anthropic spent billions of dollars to slice the spines off millions of books, including very rare ones.

                                  AI companies are purchasing large quantities of used and rare books and scanning their contents to train LLMs. They then turn the originals to pulp.

                                  The sum of human thought, digitized and shredded. Every book that gets scanned disappears from the physical world permanently.

                                  Books that survived wars, fires, and centuries of handling are being shredded so an AI can learn to write a better marketing email.

                                  #AI #Books #Culture #Civilization #Tech #LLMs

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                                  qccechris@mastodon.social
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                                  #85

                                  @dbattistella American companies are so evil! American CEOs are especially evil! And republicans are the embodiment of evil!

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                                  • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

                                    Anthropic spent billions of dollars to slice the spines off millions of books, including very rare ones.

                                    AI companies are purchasing large quantities of used and rare books and scanning their contents to train LLMs. They then turn the originals to pulp.

                                    The sum of human thought, digitized and shredded. Every book that gets scanned disappears from the physical world permanently.

                                    Books that survived wars, fires, and centuries of handling are being shredded so an AI can learn to write a better marketing email.

                                    #AI #Books #Culture #Civilization #Tech #LLMs

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                                    chemicaleyeguy@mstdn.science
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                                    #86

                                    @dbattistella #AI is #clankers 🤖 all the way down, and that’s precisely why wankers love 💕 it *so much!*

                                    #Resist #AIslop and #botshit.

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                                    • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

                                      Anthropic spent billions of dollars to slice the spines off millions of books, including very rare ones.

                                      AI companies are purchasing large quantities of used and rare books and scanning their contents to train LLMs. They then turn the originals to pulp.

                                      The sum of human thought, digitized and shredded. Every book that gets scanned disappears from the physical world permanently.

                                      Books that survived wars, fires, and centuries of handling are being shredded so an AI can learn to write a better marketing email.

                                      #AI #Books #Culture #Civilization #Tech #LLMs

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                                      #87

                                      @dbattistella

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                                      • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

                                        This is the magnificent library Anthropic amassed, before destroying it because it gave them a legal copyright loophole.

                                        #Anthropic #AI #Books #Culture #Tech #LLMs #Civilization

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                                        #88

                                        @dbattistella how is that a library when you can't check out books? Isn't that the main thing a library does?

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                                        • condret@fedi.absturztau.beC condret@fedi.absturztau.be
                                          @LeslieBurns @dbattistella read marx, please
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                                          #89

                                          @condret @LeslieBurns @dbattistella can't, anthropic scanned it all then burnt it

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