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  3. We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

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  • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

    @Mastodon This is a link to the server covenant:

    https://joinmastodon.org/covenant

    One important question – and one we’ve discussed together – is which definition of antisemitism are you going with? I’d appreciate it if you could state the decision you’ve reached on this publicly. Crucially, is it one that conflates opposition to Zionism, Israel, and the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people with being bigoted against Jewish people or not? This is key in knowing whether only Zionist, pro-Israel, pro-genocide Mastodon servers will be featured in recommendations or not.

    chad@mstdn.caC This user is from outside of this forum
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    #23

    @aral for us in Canada, we align with the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and still are green in terms of the Covenant.

    There's protected speech, and there's unprotected speech, and that is what we abide by.

    Being a purely geographical instance, I know we enjoy being able to defer these decisions.

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    • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

      If you’re interested in participating in this experiment, please let us know by filling out the form that this QR code points too.

      (sorry it’s in Google docs)

      https://forms.gle/7uRui5VnMPfEYAgq8

      5/6

      thomkennon@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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      #24

      @Mastodon google docs wtf?!... switch asap to Cryptpad comrades for stuff like this

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      • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

        We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

        Our intent for this experiment is to recommend the closest server geographically that is in the correct language during the sign-up flow. We will be running this experiment on our iOS and Android apps only to start.

        1/6

        dusk@todon.euD This user is from outside of this forum
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        #25

        @Mastodon

        Fabulous news. Any movement away from mastodon . social (risk of centralization, and plenty of other issues) is progress

        HT @FediTips

        https://social.growyourown.services/@FediTips/115894771542915681

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        • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

          @Mastodon good idea!
          "Correct language": Does it mean the favourite language that people choose individually in their preferences (but for which they need an instance) or official language of a country/region? Asking for all the multi-language migrants, bilingual regions, and foreign-language prefering people.

          haubles@hachyderm.ioH This user is from outside of this forum
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          #26

          @NatureMC

          Hey! We haven't built the logic for this yet, so thanks for mentioning situations like this so we can make sure to take them into account. Our idea is "correct language" = "the person's preferred language, as determined by their phone's preferences."

          @Mastodon

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          • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

            If you’re interested in participating in this experiment, please let us know by filling out the form that this QR code points too.

            (sorry it’s in Google docs)

            https://forms.gle/7uRui5VnMPfEYAgq8

            5/6

            potatoes_fall@miscreants.partyP This user is from outside of this forum
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            #27

            @Mastodon

            @mainz_sozial_digital könnte interessant sein?

            mainz_sozial_digital@mainz.socialM 1 Reply Last reply
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            • colinstu@birdbutt.comC colinstu@birdbutt.com

              @Mastodon besides geographical location, are there going to be any filters for like, interests or core topics etc?

              A gardening and plant instance is going to have a different vibe from the software/hardware developer instance, etc.

              It would be a neat to be a part of this, but only if relevant users/signups are being directed.

              Edit: "General Purpose Servers" ah.. missed that keyword (figured that would've been mentioned again earlier?). /ht: https://tyrol.social/@nitrml/115989922418887309

              nitrml@tyrol.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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              #28

              @colinstu it says "general purpose servers". So no special interests servers or topical servers are gonna be able to participate in this feature (at the moment).

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              • haubles@hachyderm.ioH haubles@hachyderm.io

                @NatureMC

                Hey! We haven't built the logic for this yet, so thanks for mentioning situations like this so we can make sure to take them into account. Our idea is "correct language" = "the person's preferred language, as determined by their phone's preferences."

                @Mastodon

                naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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                #29

                @haubles That sounds very good, I didn't know that it's technically possible. Great!

                @Mastodon

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                • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

                  If you’re interested in participating in this experiment, please let us know by filling out the form that this QR code points too.

                  (sorry it’s in Google docs)

                  https://forms.gle/7uRui5VnMPfEYAgq8

                  5/6

                  stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #30

                  @Mastodon send!

                  kryptuxx@mstdn.socialK ben@shit.herewegoaga.inB 2 Replies Last reply
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                  • martijn@ieji.deM martijn@ieji.de

                    @Mastodon @SolSoCoG ?

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                    #31

                    @martijn @Mastodon already filled out when a fellow admin wrote about it 👌

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                    • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                      @Mastodon send!

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                      #32

                      @stux @Mastodon send data?!

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                      • nitrml@tyrol.socialN nitrml@tyrol.social

                        @colinstu it says "general purpose servers". So no special interests servers or topical servers are gonna be able to participate in this feature (at the moment).

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                        #33

                        @nitrml @colinstu

                        This experiment will be for general purpose servers only, but we'll be looking into running other onboarding experiments—including for special interest servers—soon.

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                        • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

                          We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

                          Our intent for this experiment is to recommend the closest server geographically that is in the correct language during the sign-up flow. We will be running this experiment on our iOS and Android apps only to start.

                          1/6

                          rzeta0@mathstodon.xyzR This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #34

                          @Mastodon

                          you might also wish to ask the user about legal jurisdiction

                          the German and similar jurisdictions can be unreasonably and surprisingly problematic

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                          • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

                            We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

                            Our intent for this experiment is to recommend the closest server geographically that is in the correct language during the sign-up flow. We will be running this experiment on our iOS and Android apps only to start.

                            1/6

                            sunnythesheep@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #35

                            @Mastodon ideally combined with personal interests, right? (as long as there are enough servers to choose from) 😎🌈👩‍💻🌳

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                            • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                              @Mastodon This is a link to the server covenant:

                              https://joinmastodon.org/covenant

                              One important question – and one we’ve discussed together – is which definition of antisemitism are you going with? I’d appreciate it if you could state the decision you’ve reached on this publicly. Crucially, is it one that conflates opposition to Zionism, Israel, and the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people with being bigoted against Jewish people or not? This is key in knowing whether only Zionist, pro-Israel, pro-genocide Mastodon servers will be featured in recommendations or not.

                              potatoes_fall@miscreants.partyP This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #36

                              @aral

                              I feel like by asking this question you're — inadvertently — legitimizing zionism by implying that the conflation of antisemitism with antizionism is a credible definition of that word.

                              Personally, I assume that antisemitism means antisemitism unless I have reason to believe otherwise.

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                              • octaviaconamore@cutie.cityO octaviaconamore@cutie.city

                                @Mastodon do you mean entirely open sign-ups (i.e. prone to spam accounts) or accepting sign-ups that get manually approved by a human?

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                                #37

                                @OctaviaConAmore @Mastodon

                                For this experiment, that is correct. We are looking to partner with servers that have open sign-ups. But we've heard the feedback that spam is going to be a big issue for many servers to participate, so our team is going to discuss what we can do about that next week.

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                                • potatoes_fall@miscreants.partyP potatoes_fall@miscreants.party

                                  @aral

                                  I feel like by asking this question you're — inadvertently — legitimizing zionism by implying that the conflation of antisemitism with antizionism is a credible definition of that word.

                                  Personally, I assume that antisemitism means antisemitism unless I have reason to believe otherwise.

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                                  #38

                                  @potatoes_fall It’s not a credible definition of the word but it is a *legally accepted* one in certain jurisdictions and it is essential that we know what is meant – in this specific context – by a term that is so widely and so willfully misunderstood so we understand what exactly the effects of this initiative will be and whether we should be in support of it or in opposition to it.

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                                  • sunnythesheep@mastodon.socialS sunnythesheep@mastodon.social

                                    @Mastodon ideally combined with personal interests, right? (as long as there are enough servers to choose from) 😎🌈👩‍💻🌳

                                    haubles@hachyderm.ioH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #39

                                    @sunnythesheep @Mastodon for this experiment we are looking to partner with general-purpose servers. But this is just one experiment, not the only experiment! We’ll be looking at how we can help with special-interest server discovery soon.

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                                    • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

                                      The Default Server Recommendations experiment is a first step in reimagining how Mastodon onboarding & server discovery work.

                                      Our team’s intent is to work with the community to build new onboarding pathways that support the entire network.

                                      We can’t wait to get started 💜

                                      6/6

                                      sam@break3.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #40

                                      @Mastodon It's amazing seeing these sorts of things play out across the Fediverse. Making sure we make a better internet that is centered around Privacy and staying decentralized for all.

                                      Keep up the good work and can't wait to see where we all are in several years to come.

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                                      • rzeta0@mathstodon.xyzR rzeta0@mathstodon.xyz

                                        @Mastodon

                                        you might also wish to ask the user about legal jurisdiction

                                        the German and similar jurisdictions can be unreasonably and surprisingly problematic

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                                        #41

                                        @rzeta0 @Mastodon What do you mean? The idea would be to give people a server that is in the area they are living. If you live in Germany you have apply to it's legal jurisdiction.

                                        But I don't really see how German law is particular more / less problematic when choosing a mastodon server.

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                                        • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

                                          We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

                                          Our intent for this experiment is to recommend the closest server geographically that is in the correct language during the sign-up flow. We will be running this experiment on our iOS and Android apps only to start.

                                          1/6

                                          finchhaven@sfba.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #42

                                          @Mastodon

                                          "We will be running this experiment on our iOS and Android apps only to start."

                                          And here is the core symptom of the core problem itself:

                                          You're pointing the question and its solution right back at the Deathstar Mothership itself: @Mastodon dot Social

                                          Sort of a recursive, self-fulfilling loop, no?

                                          But not the least bit surprising

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