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  3. I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

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  • evacide@hachyderm.ioE This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

    https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

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    • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

      I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

      https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

      elfin@mstdn.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
      elfin@mstdn.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @evacide Ya notice it wasn't even factory reset?

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      • elfin@mstdn.socialE elfin@mstdn.social

        @evacide Ya notice it wasn't even factory reset?

        evacide@hachyderm.ioE This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @elfin We live in the stupidest timeline.

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        • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

          I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

          https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

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          #4

          @evacide
          Destroy it, protect your contacts.

          I know, not everyone can make a new phone magically appear, but back-up whatever there is of value and be prepared to smash it when grabbed.

          SyncThing, 1Password, Signal.

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          • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

            I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

            https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

            mossyfoot@pdx.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @evacide any ideas I have involve weaponry.

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            • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

              I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

              https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

              drangnon@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @evacide this post is floating around but I am not entirely sure that wouldn't result in some legal jeopardy.

              https://lgbtqia.space/@dianea/115890517040581815

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              • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

                https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

                0x00string@infosec.exchange0 This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @evacide i think we all know the threat model were all just not saying it

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                • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                  I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

                  https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

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                  #8

                  @evacide

                  Remember the names of the billionaires that bought an election for Trump's fascist kleptocracy.

                  1. SpaceX $288,723,409
                  2. Adelson Clinic/Miriam Adelson $146,881,700
                  3. Uline Inc $146,027,201
                  4. Citadel LLC $108,669,316
                  5. Susquehanna International Group $101,468,362
                  6. Andreessen Horowitz $89,036,553
                  7. Empower Parents PAC $82,500,000
                  8. Coinbase $79,008,020
                  9. Elliott Management $68,846,510
                  10. Securing American Greatness $67,558,284
                  11. Senate Leadership Fund $67,445,300

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                  • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                    @evacide

                    Remember the names of the billionaires that bought an election for Trump's fascist kleptocracy.

                    1. SpaceX $288,723,409
                    2. Adelson Clinic/Miriam Adelson $146,881,700
                    3. Uline Inc $146,027,201
                    4. Citadel LLC $108,669,316
                    5. Susquehanna International Group $101,468,362
                    6. Andreessen Horowitz $89,036,553
                    7. Empower Parents PAC $82,500,000
                    8. Coinbase $79,008,020
                    9. Elliott Management $68,846,510
                    10. Securing American Greatness $67,558,284
                    11. Senate Leadership Fund $67,445,300

                    1/

                    npars01@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    2/

                    We need donor transparency for PAC's, DAF's, and nonprofits.

                    12. Club for Growth $59,846,594
                    13. Koch Inc $49,092,685
                    14. Blackstone Group $48,609,890
                    15.  Stand Together Chamber of Commerce $44,801,948
                    16. Restoration PAC $41,168,363
                    17. Crownquest Operating $35,752,512
                    18. Bigelow Aerospace $34,991,590
                    19. Building America's Future $33,670,000
                    20. Stephens Inc $27,343,518
                    21. British American Tobacco $26,175,838
                    22. American Prosperity Alliance $22,549,000

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                    • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                      2/

                      We need donor transparency for PAC's, DAF's, and nonprofits.

                      12. Club for Growth $59,846,594
                      13. Koch Inc $49,092,685
                      14. Blackstone Group $48,609,890
                      15.  Stand Together Chamber of Commerce $44,801,948
                      16. Restoration PAC $41,168,363
                      17. Crownquest Operating $35,752,512
                      18. Bigelow Aerospace $34,991,590
                      19. Building America's Future $33,670,000
                      20. Stephens Inc $27,343,518
                      21. British American Tobacco $26,175,838
                      22. American Prosperity Alliance $22,549,000

                      npars01@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      3/

                      They own what ICE is doing

                      23. Manzanita Management Group $22,159,143
                      24. America First Action/America First Policies $21,724,798
                      25. Mountaire Corp $21,375,080
                      26. Reyes Holdings $21,192,607
                      27. Energy Transfer LP $19,321,695
                      28. Hendricks Holding Co $19,306,538

                      https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/top-organizations

                      Individuals:

                      1. Elon Musk $291,482,587
                      2. Timothy Mellon $197,047,200
                      3. Miriam Adelson $148,304,900
                      4. Richard Uihlein $143,498,936
                      5. Ken Griffin $108,402,284
                      6. Jeff Yass $101,128,680

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                      • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                        3/

                        They own what ICE is doing

                        23. Manzanita Management Group $22,159,143
                        24. America First Action/America First Policies $21,724,798
                        25. Mountaire Corp $21,375,080
                        26. Reyes Holdings $21,192,607
                        27. Energy Transfer LP $19,321,695
                        28. Hendricks Holding Co $19,306,538

                        https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/top-organizations

                        Individuals:

                        1. Elon Musk $291,482,587
                        2. Timothy Mellon $197,047,200
                        3. Miriam Adelson $148,304,900
                        4. Richard Uihlein $143,498,936
                        5. Ken Griffin $108,402,284
                        6. Jeff Yass $101,128,680

                        npars01@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        4/

                        The new owner of Venezuela.

                        7. Paul E. Singer $66,800,800
                        8. Marc Andreessen $42,365,113
                        9. Stephen Schwarzman $40,202,039
                        10. Timothy Dunn $35,780,200
                        11. Rob Bigelow $34,991,500
                        12. Diane Hendricks $33,165,417
                        13. JJ Ricketts $32,273,650
                        14. Shirley W. Ryan $32,198,116
                        15. Warren A. Stephens $25,895,650
                        16. Laura Perlmutter $25,344,890
                        17. Vince & Linda McMahon $23,961,659
                        18. Ronnie & Nina Cameron $21,372,500
                        19. Jan Koum $20,855,091
                        20. Thomas Klingenstein $17,410,263

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                        • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                          4/

                          The new owner of Venezuela.

                          7. Paul E. Singer $66,800,800
                          8. Marc Andreessen $42,365,113
                          9. Stephen Schwarzman $40,202,039
                          10. Timothy Dunn $35,780,200
                          11. Rob Bigelow $34,991,500
                          12. Diane Hendricks $33,165,417
                          13. JJ Ricketts $32,273,650
                          14. Shirley W. Ryan $32,198,116
                          15. Warren A. Stephens $25,895,650
                          16. Laura Perlmutter $25,344,890
                          17. Vince & Linda McMahon $23,961,659
                          18. Ronnie & Nina Cameron $21,372,500
                          19. Jan Koum $20,855,091
                          20. Thomas Klingenstein $17,410,263

                          npars01@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          4/

                          21. Rob Walton $17,572,601
                          22. Janet J. Duchossois $16,306,033
                          23. Howard W. Lutnick $16,503,667
                          24. Kelcy L. Warren $16,151,105
                          25. Walter W. Jr. Buckley $15,522,500
                          26. Thomas Peterffy $14,305,900
                          27. Anthony Pratt $14,000,000
                          28. Sherrilyn Fisher $13,299,894
                          29. David Millstone $13,413,486
                          30. Lynne Walton $13,037,750
                          31. Charles Schwab $12,801,600
                          32. Stephen Wynn $12,518,750
                          33. Anthony Lomangino $9,529,705
                          34. J. Christopher Reyes $9,536,425
                          35. Jay Winters Faison $9,084,324

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                          • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                            4/

                            21. Rob Walton $17,572,601
                            22. Janet J. Duchossois $16,306,033
                            23. Howard W. Lutnick $16,503,667
                            24. Kelcy L. Warren $16,151,105
                            25. Walter W. Jr. Buckley $15,522,500
                            26. Thomas Peterffy $14,305,900
                            27. Anthony Pratt $14,000,000
                            28. Sherrilyn Fisher $13,299,894
                            29. David Millstone $13,413,486
                            30. Lynne Walton $13,037,750
                            31. Charles Schwab $12,801,600
                            32. Stephen Wynn $12,518,750
                            33. Anthony Lomangino $9,529,705
                            34. J. Christopher Reyes $9,536,425
                            35. Jay Winters Faison $9,084,324

                            npars01@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                            npars01@mstdn.social
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                            #13

                            5/

                            36. James Davis $8,497,854
                            37. John W. Childs $8,694,286
                            38. Patricia Duggan $8,446,099
                            39. Richard G. Haworth $7,500,800
                            40. Marc J. Rowan $8,721,299
                            41. Jeffrey & Loeffler Specher $7,052,013
                            42. John L. III Nau $7,030,556
                            43. Shannon V. Addison $6,757,065
                            44. Robert H. Book $6,986,387
                            45. Susan Fox $6,687,414
                            46. Patricia Perkins-Leone $6,606,600
                            47. Jeffrey Hildebrand $6,508,389
                            48. Bernard Marcus $9,397,150
                            49. Steve Brodie $6,481,298
                            50. Daniel Newlin $6,063,928

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                            • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                              5/

                              36. James Davis $8,497,854
                              37. John W. Childs $8,694,286
                              38. Patricia Duggan $8,446,099
                              39. Richard G. Haworth $7,500,800
                              40. Marc J. Rowan $8,721,299
                              41. Jeffrey & Loeffler Specher $7,052,013
                              42. John L. III Nau $7,030,556
                              43. Shannon V. Addison $6,757,065
                              44. Robert H. Book $6,986,387
                              45. Susan Fox $6,687,414
                              46. Patricia Perkins-Leone $6,606,600
                              47. Jeffrey Hildebrand $6,508,389
                              48. Bernard Marcus $9,397,150
                              49. Steve Brodie $6,481,298
                              50. Daniel Newlin $6,063,928

                              npars01@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #14

                              6/

                              The proud owners of a fascist state.

                              51. Trevor D. Rees-Jones $5,765,124
                              52. Sarah Perot $5,643,416
                              53. Harold C. Simmons $5,596,530
                              54. Kelly Navarro $5,373,100
                              55. Alice Walton $10,248,000
                              56. Rob Granieri $5,587,899

                              https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/biggest-donors

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                              • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

                                https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

                                jaykass@mastodon.onlineJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #15

                                @evacide
                                Completely lawless.

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                                • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                  I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

                                  https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

                                  eka_foof_a@spacey.spaceE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16

                                  @evacide

                                  Always only password lock your phone. No face ID or thumb print unlock unless it also requires a password. You can be required the scan your thumb or show your face, but it is illegal for them to require your password.

                                  I don't know the security of find my phone type systems are, but if you feel they are OK, then sett it up with your family group.

                                  Make sure any family tracking app is setup with no sharing of data and data is only sent encrypted.

                                  #CopyAndRepost #safety

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                                  • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                    I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

                                    https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

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                                    #17

                                    @evacide XKCD never disappoints https://xkcd.com/538/

                                    (I know that wasn't the point, but seemed relevant regardless)

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                                    • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                      I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

                                      https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

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                                      #18

                                      @evacide

                                      Organized self defense is the only thing that would work…

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                                      • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                        I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

                                        https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

                                        n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #19

                                        @evacide

                                        #infosec made grevious error by ignoring computational propaganda at scale.

                                        Why hack the computer...
                                        ...when you can hack the user?

                                        Interestingly, this is one of the reasons why it was so hard to secure international agreements on #informationwarfare

                                        The Americans insisted it was about infrastructure

                                        The russians, about propaganda too.

                                        Who was right?
                                        Agent #krasnov is in the Whitest house.

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                                        • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN n_dimension@infosec.exchange

                                          @evacide

                                          #infosec made grevious error by ignoring computational propaganda at scale.

                                          Why hack the computer...
                                          ...when you can hack the user?

                                          Interestingly, this is one of the reasons why it was so hard to secure international agreements on #informationwarfare

                                          The Americans insisted it was about infrastructure

                                          The russians, about propaganda too.

                                          Who was right?
                                          Agent #krasnov is in the Whitest house.

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                                          #20

                                          @n_dimension
                                          Good point. Its a cruel situation nowadays. People have the media literacy of a 12 yr old on average.
                                          @evacide

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