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  3. I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

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  • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

    I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

    https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

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    #7

    @evacide i think we all know the threat model were all just not saying it

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    • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

      I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

      https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

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      #8

      @evacide

      Remember the names of the billionaires that bought an election for Trump's fascist kleptocracy.

      1. SpaceX $288,723,409
      2. Adelson Clinic/Miriam Adelson $146,881,700
      3. Uline Inc $146,027,201
      4. Citadel LLC $108,669,316
      5. Susquehanna International Group $101,468,362
      6. Andreessen Horowitz $89,036,553
      7. Empower Parents PAC $82,500,000
      8. Coinbase $79,008,020
      9. Elliott Management $68,846,510
      10. Securing American Greatness $67,558,284
      11. Senate Leadership Fund $67,445,300

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      • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

        @evacide

        Remember the names of the billionaires that bought an election for Trump's fascist kleptocracy.

        1. SpaceX $288,723,409
        2. Adelson Clinic/Miriam Adelson $146,881,700
        3. Uline Inc $146,027,201
        4. Citadel LLC $108,669,316
        5. Susquehanna International Group $101,468,362
        6. Andreessen Horowitz $89,036,553
        7. Empower Parents PAC $82,500,000
        8. Coinbase $79,008,020
        9. Elliott Management $68,846,510
        10. Securing American Greatness $67,558,284
        11. Senate Leadership Fund $67,445,300

        1/

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        #9

        2/

        We need donor transparency for PAC's, DAF's, and nonprofits.

        12. Club for Growth $59,846,594
        13. Koch Inc $49,092,685
        14. Blackstone Group $48,609,890
        15.  Stand Together Chamber of Commerce $44,801,948
        16. Restoration PAC $41,168,363
        17. Crownquest Operating $35,752,512
        18. Bigelow Aerospace $34,991,590
        19. Building America's Future $33,670,000
        20. Stephens Inc $27,343,518
        21. British American Tobacco $26,175,838
        22. American Prosperity Alliance $22,549,000

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          2/

          We need donor transparency for PAC's, DAF's, and nonprofits.

          12. Club for Growth $59,846,594
          13. Koch Inc $49,092,685
          14. Blackstone Group $48,609,890
          15.  Stand Together Chamber of Commerce $44,801,948
          16. Restoration PAC $41,168,363
          17. Crownquest Operating $35,752,512
          18. Bigelow Aerospace $34,991,590
          19. Building America's Future $33,670,000
          20. Stephens Inc $27,343,518
          21. British American Tobacco $26,175,838
          22. American Prosperity Alliance $22,549,000

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          #10

          3/

          They own what ICE is doing

          23. Manzanita Management Group $22,159,143
          24. America First Action/America First Policies $21,724,798
          25. Mountaire Corp $21,375,080
          26. Reyes Holdings $21,192,607
          27. Energy Transfer LP $19,321,695
          28. Hendricks Holding Co $19,306,538

          https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/top-organizations

          Individuals:

          1. Elon Musk $291,482,587
          2. Timothy Mellon $197,047,200
          3. Miriam Adelson $148,304,900
          4. Richard Uihlein $143,498,936
          5. Ken Griffin $108,402,284
          6. Jeff Yass $101,128,680

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            3/

            They own what ICE is doing

            23. Manzanita Management Group $22,159,143
            24. America First Action/America First Policies $21,724,798
            25. Mountaire Corp $21,375,080
            26. Reyes Holdings $21,192,607
            27. Energy Transfer LP $19,321,695
            28. Hendricks Holding Co $19,306,538

            https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/top-organizations

            Individuals:

            1. Elon Musk $291,482,587
            2. Timothy Mellon $197,047,200
            3. Miriam Adelson $148,304,900
            4. Richard Uihlein $143,498,936
            5. Ken Griffin $108,402,284
            6. Jeff Yass $101,128,680

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            #11

            4/

            The new owner of Venezuela.

            7. Paul E. Singer $66,800,800
            8. Marc Andreessen $42,365,113
            9. Stephen Schwarzman $40,202,039
            10. Timothy Dunn $35,780,200
            11. Rob Bigelow $34,991,500
            12. Diane Hendricks $33,165,417
            13. JJ Ricketts $32,273,650
            14. Shirley W. Ryan $32,198,116
            15. Warren A. Stephens $25,895,650
            16. Laura Perlmutter $25,344,890
            17. Vince & Linda McMahon $23,961,659
            18. Ronnie & Nina Cameron $21,372,500
            19. Jan Koum $20,855,091
            20. Thomas Klingenstein $17,410,263

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              4/

              The new owner of Venezuela.

              7. Paul E. Singer $66,800,800
              8. Marc Andreessen $42,365,113
              9. Stephen Schwarzman $40,202,039
              10. Timothy Dunn $35,780,200
              11. Rob Bigelow $34,991,500
              12. Diane Hendricks $33,165,417
              13. JJ Ricketts $32,273,650
              14. Shirley W. Ryan $32,198,116
              15. Warren A. Stephens $25,895,650
              16. Laura Perlmutter $25,344,890
              17. Vince & Linda McMahon $23,961,659
              18. Ronnie & Nina Cameron $21,372,500
              19. Jan Koum $20,855,091
              20. Thomas Klingenstein $17,410,263

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              #12

              4/

              21. Rob Walton $17,572,601
              22. Janet J. Duchossois $16,306,033
              23. Howard W. Lutnick $16,503,667
              24. Kelcy L. Warren $16,151,105
              25. Walter W. Jr. Buckley $15,522,500
              26. Thomas Peterffy $14,305,900
              27. Anthony Pratt $14,000,000
              28. Sherrilyn Fisher $13,299,894
              29. David Millstone $13,413,486
              30. Lynne Walton $13,037,750
              31. Charles Schwab $12,801,600
              32. Stephen Wynn $12,518,750
              33. Anthony Lomangino $9,529,705
              34. J. Christopher Reyes $9,536,425
              35. Jay Winters Faison $9,084,324

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                4/

                21. Rob Walton $17,572,601
                22. Janet J. Duchossois $16,306,033
                23. Howard W. Lutnick $16,503,667
                24. Kelcy L. Warren $16,151,105
                25. Walter W. Jr. Buckley $15,522,500
                26. Thomas Peterffy $14,305,900
                27. Anthony Pratt $14,000,000
                28. Sherrilyn Fisher $13,299,894
                29. David Millstone $13,413,486
                30. Lynne Walton $13,037,750
                31. Charles Schwab $12,801,600
                32. Stephen Wynn $12,518,750
                33. Anthony Lomangino $9,529,705
                34. J. Christopher Reyes $9,536,425
                35. Jay Winters Faison $9,084,324

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                #13

                5/

                36. James Davis $8,497,854
                37. John W. Childs $8,694,286
                38. Patricia Duggan $8,446,099
                39. Richard G. Haworth $7,500,800
                40. Marc J. Rowan $8,721,299
                41. Jeffrey & Loeffler Specher $7,052,013
                42. John L. III Nau $7,030,556
                43. Shannon V. Addison $6,757,065
                44. Robert H. Book $6,986,387
                45. Susan Fox $6,687,414
                46. Patricia Perkins-Leone $6,606,600
                47. Jeffrey Hildebrand $6,508,389
                48. Bernard Marcus $9,397,150
                49. Steve Brodie $6,481,298
                50. Daniel Newlin $6,063,928

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                • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                  5/

                  36. James Davis $8,497,854
                  37. John W. Childs $8,694,286
                  38. Patricia Duggan $8,446,099
                  39. Richard G. Haworth $7,500,800
                  40. Marc J. Rowan $8,721,299
                  41. Jeffrey & Loeffler Specher $7,052,013
                  42. John L. III Nau $7,030,556
                  43. Shannon V. Addison $6,757,065
                  44. Robert H. Book $6,986,387
                  45. Susan Fox $6,687,414
                  46. Patricia Perkins-Leone $6,606,600
                  47. Jeffrey Hildebrand $6,508,389
                  48. Bernard Marcus $9,397,150
                  49. Steve Brodie $6,481,298
                  50. Daniel Newlin $6,063,928

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                  #14

                  6/

                  The proud owners of a fascist state.

                  51. Trevor D. Rees-Jones $5,765,124
                  52. Sarah Perot $5,643,416
                  53. Harold C. Simmons $5,596,530
                  54. Kelly Navarro $5,373,100
                  55. Alice Walton $10,248,000
                  56. Rob Granieri $5,587,899

                  https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/biggest-donors

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                  • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                    I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

                    https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

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                    #15

                    @evacide
                    Completely lawless.

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                    • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                      I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

                      https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

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                      #16

                      @evacide

                      Always only password lock your phone. No face ID or thumb print unlock unless it also requires a password. You can be required the scan your thumb or show your face, but it is illegal for them to require your password.

                      I don't know the security of find my phone type systems are, but if you feel they are OK, then sett it up with your family group.

                      Make sure any family tracking app is setup with no sharing of data and data is only sent encrypted.

                      #CopyAndRepost #safety

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                      • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                        I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

                        https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

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                        #17

                        @evacide XKCD never disappoints https://xkcd.com/538/

                        (I know that wasn't the point, but seemed relevant regardless)

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                        • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                          I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

                          https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

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                          #18

                          @evacide

                          Organized self defense is the only thing that would work…

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                          • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                            I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

                            https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

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                            #19

                            @evacide

                            #infosec made grevious error by ignoring computational propaganda at scale.

                            Why hack the computer...
                            ...when you can hack the user?

                            Interestingly, this is one of the reasons why it was so hard to secure international agreements on #informationwarfare

                            The Americans insisted it was about infrastructure

                            The russians, about propaganda too.

                            Who was right?
                            Agent #krasnov is in the Whitest house.

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                            • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN n_dimension@infosec.exchange

                              @evacide

                              #infosec made grevious error by ignoring computational propaganda at scale.

                              Why hack the computer...
                              ...when you can hack the user?

                              Interestingly, this is one of the reasons why it was so hard to secure international agreements on #informationwarfare

                              The Americans insisted it was about infrastructure

                              The russians, about propaganda too.

                              Who was right?
                              Agent #krasnov is in the Whitest house.

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                              #20

                              @n_dimension
                              Good point. Its a cruel situation nowadays. People have the media literacy of a 12 yr old on average.
                              @evacide

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                              • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

                                https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

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                                #21

                                @evacide one answer, validated in history many times, is emigrate.

                                Where to is then the problem!

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                                • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                  I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

                                  https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

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                                  #22

                                  @evacide
                                  although they don't help against the violence, #acab, here are some #android apps i find useful:

                                  you can do remote factory reset with #fmd. https://f-droid.org/packages/de.nulide.findmydevice

                                  you can record video in the background behind lockscreen with #alibi. https://f-droid.org/packages/app.myzel394.alibi

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