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  3. I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

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  • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

    I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

    https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

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    @evacide
    Destroy it, protect your contacts.

    I know, not everyone can make a new phone magically appear, but back-up whatever there is of value and be prepared to smash it when grabbed.

    SyncThing, 1Password, Signal.

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    • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

      I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

      https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

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      #5

      @evacide any ideas I have involve weaponry.

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      • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

        I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

        https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

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        #6

        @evacide this post is floating around but I am not entirely sure that wouldn't result in some legal jeopardy.

        https://lgbtqia.space/@dianea/115890517040581815

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        • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

          I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

          https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

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          #7

          @evacide i think we all know the threat model were all just not saying it

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          • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

            I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

            https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

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            #8

            @evacide

            Remember the names of the billionaires that bought an election for Trump's fascist kleptocracy.

            1. SpaceX $288,723,409
            2. Adelson Clinic/Miriam Adelson $146,881,700
            3. Uline Inc $146,027,201
            4. Citadel LLC $108,669,316
            5. Susquehanna International Group $101,468,362
            6. Andreessen Horowitz $89,036,553
            7. Empower Parents PAC $82,500,000
            8. Coinbase $79,008,020
            9. Elliott Management $68,846,510
            10. Securing American Greatness $67,558,284
            11. Senate Leadership Fund $67,445,300

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            • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

              @evacide

              Remember the names of the billionaires that bought an election for Trump's fascist kleptocracy.

              1. SpaceX $288,723,409
              2. Adelson Clinic/Miriam Adelson $146,881,700
              3. Uline Inc $146,027,201
              4. Citadel LLC $108,669,316
              5. Susquehanna International Group $101,468,362
              6. Andreessen Horowitz $89,036,553
              7. Empower Parents PAC $82,500,000
              8. Coinbase $79,008,020
              9. Elliott Management $68,846,510
              10. Securing American Greatness $67,558,284
              11. Senate Leadership Fund $67,445,300

              1/

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              #9

              2/

              We need donor transparency for PAC's, DAF's, and nonprofits.

              12. Club for Growth $59,846,594
              13. Koch Inc $49,092,685
              14. Blackstone Group $48,609,890
              15.  Stand Together Chamber of Commerce $44,801,948
              16. Restoration PAC $41,168,363
              17. Crownquest Operating $35,752,512
              18. Bigelow Aerospace $34,991,590
              19. Building America's Future $33,670,000
              20. Stephens Inc $27,343,518
              21. British American Tobacco $26,175,838
              22. American Prosperity Alliance $22,549,000

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                2/

                We need donor transparency for PAC's, DAF's, and nonprofits.

                12. Club for Growth $59,846,594
                13. Koch Inc $49,092,685
                14. Blackstone Group $48,609,890
                15.  Stand Together Chamber of Commerce $44,801,948
                16. Restoration PAC $41,168,363
                17. Crownquest Operating $35,752,512
                18. Bigelow Aerospace $34,991,590
                19. Building America's Future $33,670,000
                20. Stephens Inc $27,343,518
                21. British American Tobacco $26,175,838
                22. American Prosperity Alliance $22,549,000

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                #10

                3/

                They own what ICE is doing

                23. Manzanita Management Group $22,159,143
                24. America First Action/America First Policies $21,724,798
                25. Mountaire Corp $21,375,080
                26. Reyes Holdings $21,192,607
                27. Energy Transfer LP $19,321,695
                28. Hendricks Holding Co $19,306,538

                https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/top-organizations

                Individuals:

                1. Elon Musk $291,482,587
                2. Timothy Mellon $197,047,200
                3. Miriam Adelson $148,304,900
                4. Richard Uihlein $143,498,936
                5. Ken Griffin $108,402,284
                6. Jeff Yass $101,128,680

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                • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                  3/

                  They own what ICE is doing

                  23. Manzanita Management Group $22,159,143
                  24. America First Action/America First Policies $21,724,798
                  25. Mountaire Corp $21,375,080
                  26. Reyes Holdings $21,192,607
                  27. Energy Transfer LP $19,321,695
                  28. Hendricks Holding Co $19,306,538

                  https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/top-organizations

                  Individuals:

                  1. Elon Musk $291,482,587
                  2. Timothy Mellon $197,047,200
                  3. Miriam Adelson $148,304,900
                  4. Richard Uihlein $143,498,936
                  5. Ken Griffin $108,402,284
                  6. Jeff Yass $101,128,680

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                  #11

                  4/

                  The new owner of Venezuela.

                  7. Paul E. Singer $66,800,800
                  8. Marc Andreessen $42,365,113
                  9. Stephen Schwarzman $40,202,039
                  10. Timothy Dunn $35,780,200
                  11. Rob Bigelow $34,991,500
                  12. Diane Hendricks $33,165,417
                  13. JJ Ricketts $32,273,650
                  14. Shirley W. Ryan $32,198,116
                  15. Warren A. Stephens $25,895,650
                  16. Laura Perlmutter $25,344,890
                  17. Vince & Linda McMahon $23,961,659
                  18. Ronnie & Nina Cameron $21,372,500
                  19. Jan Koum $20,855,091
                  20. Thomas Klingenstein $17,410,263

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                  • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                    4/

                    The new owner of Venezuela.

                    7. Paul E. Singer $66,800,800
                    8. Marc Andreessen $42,365,113
                    9. Stephen Schwarzman $40,202,039
                    10. Timothy Dunn $35,780,200
                    11. Rob Bigelow $34,991,500
                    12. Diane Hendricks $33,165,417
                    13. JJ Ricketts $32,273,650
                    14. Shirley W. Ryan $32,198,116
                    15. Warren A. Stephens $25,895,650
                    16. Laura Perlmutter $25,344,890
                    17. Vince & Linda McMahon $23,961,659
                    18. Ronnie & Nina Cameron $21,372,500
                    19. Jan Koum $20,855,091
                    20. Thomas Klingenstein $17,410,263

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                    #12

                    4/

                    21. Rob Walton $17,572,601
                    22. Janet J. Duchossois $16,306,033
                    23. Howard W. Lutnick $16,503,667
                    24. Kelcy L. Warren $16,151,105
                    25. Walter W. Jr. Buckley $15,522,500
                    26. Thomas Peterffy $14,305,900
                    27. Anthony Pratt $14,000,000
                    28. Sherrilyn Fisher $13,299,894
                    29. David Millstone $13,413,486
                    30. Lynne Walton $13,037,750
                    31. Charles Schwab $12,801,600
                    32. Stephen Wynn $12,518,750
                    33. Anthony Lomangino $9,529,705
                    34. J. Christopher Reyes $9,536,425
                    35. Jay Winters Faison $9,084,324

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                    • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                      4/

                      21. Rob Walton $17,572,601
                      22. Janet J. Duchossois $16,306,033
                      23. Howard W. Lutnick $16,503,667
                      24. Kelcy L. Warren $16,151,105
                      25. Walter W. Jr. Buckley $15,522,500
                      26. Thomas Peterffy $14,305,900
                      27. Anthony Pratt $14,000,000
                      28. Sherrilyn Fisher $13,299,894
                      29. David Millstone $13,413,486
                      30. Lynne Walton $13,037,750
                      31. Charles Schwab $12,801,600
                      32. Stephen Wynn $12,518,750
                      33. Anthony Lomangino $9,529,705
                      34. J. Christopher Reyes $9,536,425
                      35. Jay Winters Faison $9,084,324

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                      #13

                      5/

                      36. James Davis $8,497,854
                      37. John W. Childs $8,694,286
                      38. Patricia Duggan $8,446,099
                      39. Richard G. Haworth $7,500,800
                      40. Marc J. Rowan $8,721,299
                      41. Jeffrey & Loeffler Specher $7,052,013
                      42. John L. III Nau $7,030,556
                      43. Shannon V. Addison $6,757,065
                      44. Robert H. Book $6,986,387
                      45. Susan Fox $6,687,414
                      46. Patricia Perkins-Leone $6,606,600
                      47. Jeffrey Hildebrand $6,508,389
                      48. Bernard Marcus $9,397,150
                      49. Steve Brodie $6,481,298
                      50. Daniel Newlin $6,063,928

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                      • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                        5/

                        36. James Davis $8,497,854
                        37. John W. Childs $8,694,286
                        38. Patricia Duggan $8,446,099
                        39. Richard G. Haworth $7,500,800
                        40. Marc J. Rowan $8,721,299
                        41. Jeffrey & Loeffler Specher $7,052,013
                        42. John L. III Nau $7,030,556
                        43. Shannon V. Addison $6,757,065
                        44. Robert H. Book $6,986,387
                        45. Susan Fox $6,687,414
                        46. Patricia Perkins-Leone $6,606,600
                        47. Jeffrey Hildebrand $6,508,389
                        48. Bernard Marcus $9,397,150
                        49. Steve Brodie $6,481,298
                        50. Daniel Newlin $6,063,928

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                        #14

                        6/

                        The proud owners of a fascist state.

                        51. Trevor D. Rees-Jones $5,765,124
                        52. Sarah Perot $5,643,416
                        53. Harold C. Simmons $5,596,530
                        54. Kelly Navarro $5,373,100
                        55. Alice Walton $10,248,000
                        56. Rob Granieri $5,587,899

                        https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/biggest-donors

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                        • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                          I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

                          https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

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                          #15

                          @evacide
                          Completely lawless.

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                          • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                            I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

                            https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

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                            #16

                            @evacide

                            Always only password lock your phone. No face ID or thumb print unlock unless it also requires a password. You can be required the scan your thumb or show your face, but it is illegal for them to require your password.

                            I don't know the security of find my phone type systems are, but if you feel they are OK, then sett it up with your family group.

                            Make sure any family tracking app is setup with no sharing of data and data is only sent encrypted.

                            #CopyAndRepost #safety

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                            • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                              I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

                              https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

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                              #17

                              @evacide XKCD never disappoints https://xkcd.com/538/

                              (I know that wasn't the point, but seemed relevant regardless)

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                              • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

                                https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

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                                #18

                                @evacide

                                Organized self defense is the only thing that would work…

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                                • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                  I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

                                  https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

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                                  #19

                                  @evacide

                                  #infosec made grevious error by ignoring computational propaganda at scale.

                                  Why hack the computer...
                                  ...when you can hack the user?

                                  Interestingly, this is one of the reasons why it was so hard to secure international agreements on #informationwarfare

                                  The Americans insisted it was about infrastructure

                                  The russians, about propaganda too.

                                  Who was right?
                                  Agent #krasnov is in the Whitest house.

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                                  • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN n_dimension@infosec.exchange

                                    @evacide

                                    #infosec made grevious error by ignoring computational propaganda at scale.

                                    Why hack the computer...
                                    ...when you can hack the user?

                                    Interestingly, this is one of the reasons why it was so hard to secure international agreements on #informationwarfare

                                    The Americans insisted it was about infrastructure

                                    The russians, about propaganda too.

                                    Who was right?
                                    Agent #krasnov is in the Whitest house.

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                                    #20

                                    @n_dimension
                                    Good point. Its a cruel situation nowadays. People have the media literacy of a 12 yr old on average.
                                    @evacide

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                                    • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                      I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

                                      https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

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                                      #21

                                      @evacide one answer, validated in history many times, is emigrate.

                                      Where to is then the problem!

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                                      • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                        I am trying to give people useful advice on how to keep their devices safe, but I don't know how to threat model for armed, masked thugs who may kidnap you off the street, then steal, and possibly sell your phone.

                                        https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

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                                        #22

                                        @evacide
                                        although they don't help against the violence, #acab, here are some #android apps i find useful:

                                        you can do remote factory reset with #fmd. https://f-droid.org/packages/de.nulide.findmydevice

                                        you can record video in the background behind lockscreen with #alibi. https://f-droid.org/packages/app.myzel394.alibi

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