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  3. So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

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  • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

    So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

    So... here's the thing:

    DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.

    The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.

    quasit@social.vivaldi.netQ This user is from outside of this forum
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    quasit@social.vivaldi.net
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    #102

    @Remittancegirl
    It's anything BUT a revolution. "No Kings" is financed and run by the DNC, who in turn are financed and owned by the oligarchs. The No Kings events are just pressure valves designed to let neoliberals blow off steam and tell themselves that they're making a difference, while in fact all they're doing is supporting the fascist Powers-That-Be.

    That's why they never ask for impeachment. Or an end to the genocide in Gaza. Or the imposition of ANY meaningful taxes on billionaires.

    And the "protests" are always held on Saturdays, just to make 100% sure that they won't turn into anything like a general strike.

    The Democratic Party is the second string team for fascism. And BOTH parties are owned by the same Nazi billionaires.

    #GeneralStrike

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    • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

      So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

      So... here's the thing:

      DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.

      The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.

      politipet@piaille.frP This user is from outside of this forum
      politipet@piaille.frP This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #103

      @Remittancegirl go bring them over here on Mastodon and show them around ?

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      • politipet@piaille.frP politipet@piaille.fr

        @Remittancegirl go bring them over here on Mastodon and show them around ?

        remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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        remittancegirl@mstdn.social
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        #104

        @politipet I'm not American.

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        • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

          @Remittancegirl I think this is going to backfire. It's not like messing with the logistic organizing of entirely symbolic protest events is going to break movements or anything. But it will radicalize some previously non-radical folks to the idea that big tech is their enemy.

          remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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          #105

          @dalias True. That might be a silver lining.

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          • kelleynnn@mas.toK kelleynnn@mas.to

            @Remittancegirl Have you, or has anyone you know, attended in person local Indivisible meetings?

            remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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            #106

            @kelleynnn I'm not in the US. I'm not American.

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            • djmitche@fosstodon.orgD djmitche@fosstodon.org

              @Remittancegirl this didn't slow down our local nk4 one bit. It's a distributed system.

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              #107

              @djmitche Yay!

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              • edebill@wandering.shopE edebill@wandering.shop

                @Remittancegirl our local No Kings organization does all its organizing via Signal. Outreach on social media, organizing and planning on Signal. I’m sure some local groups get it wrong, though.

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                #108

                @edebill That's very encouraging.

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                • ghouston@mamot.frG ghouston@mamot.fr

                  @Remittancegirl @acm_redfox perhaps not the tech bros, but the US government could possibly shut down quite a bit of the Fediverse the same way they took on Autistici/Inventati, by revoking domains and designating server operators as terrorists.

                  remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #109

                  @ghouston @acm_redfox possibly, but that would present the gov't with a stark first amendment issue. Wholly owned companies are not legally obligated to host free speech.

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                  • retrosponge@kind.socialR retrosponge@kind.social

                    @Remittancegirl Yeah, but the last events I remember seeing people saying how great the parking was and they were able to get home early and also one of them had a really great DJ. You know, important things when you're trying to overthrow a fucking dictator...

                    Less DJs and parking, more fucking guillotines.

                    ahltorp@mastodon.nuA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #110

                    @retrosponge @Remittancegirl Less parking, yes, but I would say more dancing.

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                    • franceskamann@freeradical.zoneF franceskamann@freeradical.zone

                      @Remittancegirl @tantramar

                      dopamine addicted.
                      That's by design.
                      They've hacked our neurotransmitters. They've hacked our brains. It's a construct. It's a manipulation. People can unplug.

                      remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #111

                      @FranceskaMann All language hacks the neurotransmitters. And yes, of courses it is a construct, but what is not? Society is a construct. And yet some societies are really wonderful, life-affirming constructs.

                      However, it should be as consensual as possible.

                      @tantramar

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                      • ahltorp@mastodon.nuA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #112

                        @tomjennings @Remittancegirl ”The year is 2026 AD. The internet is entirely occupied by the billionaires. Well, not entirely...”

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                        • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #113

                          @tomjennings This technology is here to stay, it isn't going away.

                          It is what we do with it and what we demand of it and how we shape it (where we can) that matters. But we can and should mitigate the perils as much as we can.

                          And yes, you are right: the internet is not a safe space. But then where is a safe space?

                          I agree wholeheartedly that meeting in the flesh is good - not just to lessen dependence on digital communication - but because what is experienced in the body more powerful.

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                          • quasit@social.vivaldi.netQ quasit@social.vivaldi.net

                            @Remittancegirl
                            It's anything BUT a revolution. "No Kings" is financed and run by the DNC, who in turn are financed and owned by the oligarchs. The No Kings events are just pressure valves designed to let neoliberals blow off steam and tell themselves that they're making a difference, while in fact all they're doing is supporting the fascist Powers-That-Be.

                            That's why they never ask for impeachment. Or an end to the genocide in Gaza. Or the imposition of ANY meaningful taxes on billionaires.

                            And the "protests" are always held on Saturdays, just to make 100% sure that they won't turn into anything like a general strike.

                            The Democratic Party is the second string team for fascism. And BOTH parties are owned by the same Nazi billionaires.

                            #GeneralStrike

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                            cj@dragonscave.space
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                            #114

                            @Quasit @Remittancegirl The DNC is in debt while the RNC is swimming in money. The Democrats impeached Trump twice in his first term, and they're currently in the minority in Congress. There's a wealth tax on the ballot in California. Abdul El-Sayed won the Democratic primary for Senate in Michigan. Democrats and the DNC aren't perfect, but don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

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                            • C cj@dragonscave.space

                              @Quasit @Remittancegirl The DNC is in debt while the RNC is swimming in money. The Democrats impeached Trump twice in his first term, and they're currently in the minority in Congress. There's a wealth tax on the ballot in California. Abdul El-Sayed won the Democratic primary for Senate in Michigan. Democrats and the DNC aren't perfect, but don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

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                              #115

                              @cj Well said. At this point, you can't afford to. @Quasit

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                              • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

                                So... here's the thing:

                                DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.

                                The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.

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                                #116

                                @Remittancegirl
                                Tne ultimate tip: if you plan to be free, use free tools. Free as in freedom, not free of charge. That's the point.

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                                • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                  So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

                                  So... here's the thing:

                                  DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.

                                  The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.

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                                  cj@dragonscave.space
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                                  #117

                                  @Remittancegirl @prism Isn't this blaming the victim? I don't think we should loose sight here that the villain is Meta and the corrupt administration that they're in bed with.

                                  What is the alternative? What platform has the same reach as those run by Big Tech?

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                                  • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                    So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

                                    So... here's the thing:

                                    DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.

                                    The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.

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                                    padinero@social.vivaldi.net
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                                    #118

                                    @Remittancegirl

                                    So... here's the thing:

                                    THEY WERE USING INSTAGRAM TO PROMOTE THEIR EVENT. IF THEY ONLY WANTED 5 PEOPLE TO SHOW UP, THEY COULD HAVE USED MASTODON.

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                                    • P padinero@social.vivaldi.net

                                      @Remittancegirl

                                      So... here's the thing:

                                      THEY WERE USING INSTAGRAM TO PROMOTE THEIR EVENT. IF THEY ONLY WANTED 5 PEOPLE TO SHOW UP, THEY COULD HAVE USED MASTODON.

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                                      remittancegirl@mstdn.social
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                                      #119

                                      @padinero Here's the thing:

                                      If they depend on a platform owned by someone who has a specific interest in hindering their organization, then people will get confused and stay at home.

                                      The solution is to train people into using alternative forms of communication. And the actual act of training people to on teach using mastodon, will, in itself create a community of trust.

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                                      • violettejean@mstdn.socialV violettejean@mstdn.social

                                        @Remittancegirl

                                        And the alternatives sites are?

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                                        #120

                                        A website like https://www.nokings.org/ @violettejean @Remittancegirl

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                                        • quasit@social.vivaldi.netQ quasit@social.vivaldi.net

                                          @Remittancegirl
                                          It's anything BUT a revolution. "No Kings" is financed and run by the DNC, who in turn are financed and owned by the oligarchs. The No Kings events are just pressure valves designed to let neoliberals blow off steam and tell themselves that they're making a difference, while in fact all they're doing is supporting the fascist Powers-That-Be.

                                          That's why they never ask for impeachment. Or an end to the genocide in Gaza. Or the imposition of ANY meaningful taxes on billionaires.

                                          And the "protests" are always held on Saturdays, just to make 100% sure that they won't turn into anything like a general strike.

                                          The Democratic Party is the second string team for fascism. And BOTH parties are owned by the same Nazi billionaires.

                                          #GeneralStrike

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                                          abhayakara@mastodon.nl
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                                          #121

                                          @Quasit @Remittancegirl This is not true. Ezra for example is part of Indivisible, which is trying and to some extent succeeding at creating a solidarity organization that is explicitly not part of the Democratic Party apparatus. Their funding comes from people like me. I stopped sending the Democratic Party money about twenty years ago, and I'm embarrassed that it took that long, but even I eventually figure things out if you hit me with a clue-by-four often enough.

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