So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.
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@Remittancegirl Have you, or has anyone you know, attended in person local Indivisible meetings?
@kelleynnn I'm not in the US. I'm not American.
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@Remittancegirl this didn't slow down our local nk4 one bit. It's a distributed system.
@djmitche Yay!
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@Remittancegirl our local No Kings organization does all its organizing via Signal. Outreach on social media, organizing and planning on Signal. I’m sure some local groups get it wrong, though.
@edebill That's very encouraging.
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@Remittancegirl @acm_redfox perhaps not the tech bros, but the US government could possibly shut down quite a bit of the Fediverse the same way they took on Autistici/Inventati, by revoking domains and designating server operators as terrorists.
@ghouston @acm_redfox possibly, but that would present the gov't with a stark first amendment issue. Wholly owned companies are not legally obligated to host free speech.
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@Remittancegirl Yeah, but the last events I remember seeing people saying how great the parking was and they were able to get home early and also one of them had a really great DJ. You know, important things when you're trying to overthrow a fucking dictator...
Less DJs and parking, more fucking guillotines.
@retrosponge @Remittancegirl Less parking, yes, but I would say more dancing.
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dopamine addicted.
That's by design.
They've hacked our neurotransmitters. They've hacked our brains. It's a construct. It's a manipulation. People can unplug.@FranceskaMann All language hacks the neurotransmitters. And yes, of courses it is a construct, but what is not? Society is a construct. And yet some societies are really wonderful, life-affirming constructs.
However, it should be as consensual as possible.
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@tomjennings @Remittancegirl ”The year is 2026 AD. The internet is entirely occupied by the billionaires. Well, not entirely...”
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@tomjennings This technology is here to stay, it isn't going away.
It is what we do with it and what we demand of it and how we shape it (where we can) that matters. But we can and should mitigate the perils as much as we can.
And yes, you are right: the internet is not a safe space. But then where is a safe space?
I agree wholeheartedly that meeting in the flesh is good - not just to lessen dependence on digital communication - but because what is experienced in the body more powerful.
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@Remittancegirl
It's anything BUT a revolution. "No Kings" is financed and run by the DNC, who in turn are financed and owned by the oligarchs. The No Kings events are just pressure valves designed to let neoliberals blow off steam and tell themselves that they're making a difference, while in fact all they're doing is supporting the fascist Powers-That-Be.That's why they never ask for impeachment. Or an end to the genocide in Gaza. Or the imposition of ANY meaningful taxes on billionaires.
And the "protests" are always held on Saturdays, just to make 100% sure that they won't turn into anything like a general strike.
The Democratic Party is the second string team for fascism. And BOTH parties are owned by the same Nazi billionaires.
@Quasit @Remittancegirl The DNC is in debt while the RNC is swimming in money. The Democrats impeached Trump twice in his first term, and they're currently in the minority in Congress. There's a wealth tax on the ballot in California. Abdul El-Sayed won the Democratic primary for Senate in Michigan. Democrats and the DNC aren't perfect, but don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
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@Quasit @Remittancegirl The DNC is in debt while the RNC is swimming in money. The Democrats impeached Trump twice in his first term, and they're currently in the minority in Congress. There's a wealth tax on the ballot in California. Abdul El-Sayed won the Democratic primary for Senate in Michigan. Democrats and the DNC aren't perfect, but don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
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So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.
So... here's the thing:
DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.
The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.
@Remittancegirl
Tne ultimate tip: if you plan to be free, use free tools. Free as in freedom, not free of charge. That's the point. -
So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.
So... here's the thing:
DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.
The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.
@Remittancegirl @prism Isn't this blaming the victim? I don't think we should loose sight here that the villain is Meta and the corrupt administration that they're in bed with.
What is the alternative? What platform has the same reach as those run by Big Tech?
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So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.
So... here's the thing:
DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.
The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.
So... here's the thing:
THEY WERE USING INSTAGRAM TO PROMOTE THEIR EVENT. IF THEY ONLY WANTED 5 PEOPLE TO SHOW UP, THEY COULD HAVE USED MASTODON.
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So... here's the thing:
THEY WERE USING INSTAGRAM TO PROMOTE THEIR EVENT. IF THEY ONLY WANTED 5 PEOPLE TO SHOW UP, THEY COULD HAVE USED MASTODON.
@padinero Here's the thing:
If they depend on a platform owned by someone who has a specific interest in hindering their organization, then people will get confused and stay at home.
The solution is to train people into using alternative forms of communication. And the actual act of training people to on teach using mastodon, will, in itself create a community of trust.
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And the alternatives sites are?
A website like https://www.nokings.org/ @violettejean @Remittancegirl
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@Remittancegirl
It's anything BUT a revolution. "No Kings" is financed and run by the DNC, who in turn are financed and owned by the oligarchs. The No Kings events are just pressure valves designed to let neoliberals blow off steam and tell themselves that they're making a difference, while in fact all they're doing is supporting the fascist Powers-That-Be.That's why they never ask for impeachment. Or an end to the genocide in Gaza. Or the imposition of ANY meaningful taxes on billionaires.
And the "protests" are always held on Saturdays, just to make 100% sure that they won't turn into anything like a general strike.
The Democratic Party is the second string team for fascism. And BOTH parties are owned by the same Nazi billionaires.
@Quasit @Remittancegirl This is not true. Ezra for example is part of Indivisible, which is trying and to some extent succeeding at creating a solidarity organization that is explicitly not part of the Democratic Party apparatus. Their funding comes from people like me. I stopped sending the Democratic Party money about twenty years ago, and I'm embarrassed that it took that long, but even I eventually figure things out if you hit me with a clue-by-four often enough.
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dopamine addicted.
That's by design.
They've hacked our neurotransmitters. They've hacked our brains. It's a construct. It's a manipulation. People can unplug.@FranceskaMann@freeradical.zone @Remittancegirl@mstdn.social @tantramar@zeroes.ca "COVID kills joy in people; scientists have discovered a new long-term consequence—the virus literally burns out dopamine receptors. It affects the part of the brain responsible for motivation, happiness, and memory, and the sicker a person is, the worse the consequences." https://social.marxist.network/@yogthos/117445661898744984 -
@padinero Here's the thing:
If they depend on a platform owned by someone who has a specific interest in hindering their organization, then people will get confused and stay at home.
The solution is to train people into using alternative forms of communication. And the actual act of training people to on teach using mastodon, will, in itself create a community of trust.
@Remittancegirl
> into using alternative forms of communicationBut how can we manage to get to those young people they should reach their grandparents and ask them for the forgotten knowledge of prehistorical technology called e-mail.
Me thinks the client for this still are on the phones, just buried deep. I know, it is very demanding to learn how to use email client, but it is only about the last thing that can be silenced by the #technazi bros – as long as the mail address ends in .eu .de .pl .no or .ch
Proton even is giving special e-mail accounts for organizing:
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So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.
So... here's the thing:
DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.
The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.
@Remittancegirl The infuriatingly frustrating thing to me is that people don't understand the nature of timing.
All these morons going to BlueSky and similar don't "get" that the trap is to make it feel functional enough ... and then they shut the jaws of the trap just before elections to maximize the impact and leave the victims with too little time to recover.
FWIW, No Kings/Indivisible are also here on Mastodon. So they're doing better than most. But their followers elsewhere? No excuse.
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@Remittancegirl On efficacy, I'm not quite sure what they have achieved other than being a social club for people who were going to vote a particular way anyway.
@simonbp @Remittancegirl Having participated in numerous No Kings protests, they do lots of organizing at the protests for additional and more direct actions. Voter registration, canvassing, call campaigns, stuff like that.
I haven't noticed any direct fundraising, but I figure they don't want to deal with the legal hoops revolving around that.
