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  • vowe@social.heise.deV vowe@social.heise.de

    Life finds a way

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    #51

    @vowe Yes, but the aim of this story is to call for more online surveillance for all. It's saying exiting measures to protect children aren't working so strong ID checks are needed.

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    • mediocreman@mastodon.socialM mediocreman@mastodon.social

      @vowe
      If that is all it takes to get passed this system, it is a bit useless.

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      #52

      @Mediocreman @vowe it was never supposed to be useful. Just scary. And I'm glad to hear about people refusing to be scared.

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      • vowe@social.heise.deV vowe@social.heise.de

        Life finds a way

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        #53

        @vowe imagine being a kid back in the day, vandalising posters with mustaches and when you turn to an adult you force children to do it to themselves
        Now that is an evil villain alright

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        • vowe@social.heise.deV vowe@social.heise.de

          Life finds a way

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          #54

          @vowe

          LOL, shows how bad these systems are eh,

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          • vowe@social.heise.deV vowe@social.heise.de

            Life finds a way

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            #55

            @vowe i wish i could see this as a win, but it's not. these kids now have their faces on some surveillance database that will inevitably be breeched or used to extract metadata which can be sold to targetted advertizers or the like. the surveillance is the point and this failure in the system only lets them collect more data on even more vulnerable people

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            • vowe@social.heise.deV vowe@social.heise.de

              Life finds a way

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              #56

              @vowe

              Duchamp lives!!!!!!

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              • vowe@social.heise.deV vowe@social.heise.de

                Life finds a way

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                #57

                @vowe best possible new story. Already won it Monday. I can log off for the week 😂

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                • vowe@social.heise.deV vowe@social.heise.de

                  Life finds a way

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                  #58

                  @vowe next up, Groucho Goggles 🥸

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                  • vowe@social.heise.deV vowe@social.heise.de

                    Life finds a way

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                    #59

                    @vowe Absolute LOL

                    Sounds like a scene some silly 70s movie

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                    • driusan@doomscroller.socialD driusan@doomscroller.social
                      @vowe@social.heise.de This is probably the first time in history that young people have rapidly found a way to bypass measures put in place by adults to restrict what they can do and shared it amongst their peers.
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                      #60

                      @driusan @vowe Entirely unprecedented, not like I didn't do it myself or anything.

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                      • lydiaconwell@todon.nlL lydiaconwell@todon.nl

                        @vowe Yes, but the aim of this story is to call for more online surveillance for all. It's saying exiting measures to protect children aren't working so strong ID checks are needed.

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                        #61

                        @lydiaconwell @vowe Almost like they expect kids to circumvent it instantly requiring ever more draconian verification intrusions into people's ability to roam online anonymously.

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                        • nini@oldbytes.spaceN nini@oldbytes.space

                          @driusan @vowe Entirely unprecedented, not like I didn't do it myself or anything.

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                          #62
                          @nini@oldbytes.space @vowe@social.heise.de Now I'm suddenly really hoping the fact that my kid's school "shadowbanned" MS Teams doesn't result in him trying to find illicit ways to continue to use Teams.
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                          • vowe@social.heise.deV vowe@social.heise.de

                            Life finds a way

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                            #63

                            @vowe Amusing headline aside, it's noteworthy that the report's evidence argues that VPNs are *not* being significantly used to circumvent age gates. Hopefully this will reduce some of the pressure to apply the same controls to VPNs.

                            Data protection and privacy of information are mentioned... but not strongly enough. People don't realise privacy's gone until it's too late, I think.

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                            • vowe@social.heise.deV vowe@social.heise.de

                              Life finds a way

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                              #64

                              @vowe What would be funny is if kids would learn 'proper' makeup-to-look-older from tutorials on youtube and tiktok...

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                              • vowe@social.heise.deV vowe@social.heise.de

                                Life finds a way

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                                #65
                                @vowe you wouldn't download a moustache
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                                • ticho@mas.toT ticho@mas.to

                                  @vowe I can't believe it's not TheOnion™!

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                                  #66

                                  @ticho @vowe

                                  We are living in the 'Age of The Onion' 🧅

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                                  • vowe@social.heise.deV vowe@social.heise.de

                                    Life finds a way

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                                    #67

                                    @vowe People are looking at this the wrong way.

                                    Everyone understands that we are not banning the kids from socials in any real or effective way.

                                    What we are doing is banning social media from our kids. Here in Manitoba, AI bots too, which is even better news.

                                    Cause the thing is, they already know who is using the social site, they know everything, we've been obligingly helping them to setup the surveillance all along.

                                    This idea that requiring a credit card or some such to use adult-oriented sites is somehow the final step is absurd.

                                    But if they are found to have knowingly allowed kids to use the sites (and again, they absolutely do know who is at the keyboard, even if multiple people are using the same computer) and not kicked the kid off, that needs to make them legally liable, and if a kid ends up damaged in any way by it (ie. they are lured, for instance) the liability should be criminal.

                                    At the moment it's "let the kids go on the internet anywhere because free speech!"

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                                    • vowe@social.heise.deV vowe@social.heise.de

                                      Life finds a way

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                                      #68

                                      @vowe I knew it, it was 3 kids in a trenchcoat!

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                                      • driusan@doomscroller.socialD driusan@doomscroller.social
                                        @nini@oldbytes.space @vowe@social.heise.de Now I'm suddenly really hoping the fact that my kid's school "shadowbanned" MS Teams doesn't result in him trying to find illicit ways to continue to use Teams.
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                                        #69

                                        @driusan @vowe The stuff of nightmares.

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                                        • nini@oldbytes.spaceN nini@oldbytes.space

                                          @driusan @vowe The stuff of nightmares.

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                                          #70
                                          @nini@oldbytes.space @vowe@social.heise.de Maybe I shouldn't have kept suggesting they use Signal or something.
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