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You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago

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  • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

    You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
    Turns out that was on purpose

    alkaris@meow.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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    #27

    @ocean I knew Google Search was so bad long before this document proves it, because I could no longer search for certain things on the Internet anymore, you'd have to use special tags just to find things, its also the reason I stopped using Google for searches because it's just so unusable

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    • paradox@raru.reP paradox@raru.re

      @ocean I need to understand what people are searching for and why the first page doesn't help them.
      Cuz the only time I can't find something is because I don't really expect to find anything. Either cuz it's a very niche question or earlier when I tried to get a pdf/ebook of Harold and the Purple Crayon (still copyrighted I think, no straightforward download).

      Like I believe people are having a hard time. I just can't tell from my experience.

      lispi314@udongein.xyzL This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote on sidst redigeret af
      #28
      @Paradox @ocean Even just looking for straightforward cooking instructions leads to LLM vomit being the first few results on Google.

      (It's somewhat better if one searches for recipes in other languages than English.)

      Not exactly what I'd consider niche.
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      • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

        You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
        Turns out that was on purpose

        tvaughan@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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        tvaughan@mastodon.social
        wrote on sidst redigeret af
        #29

        @ocean Capitalism does not allocate resources efficiently.

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        • xepia_@social.bau-ha.usX This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote on sidst redigeret af
          #30

          @morgunkorn
          Yup.
          https://archive.is/HoB1U

          @realhackhistory @ocean @hjoest @christianschwaegerl

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          • lispi314@udongein.xyzL lispi314@udongein.xyz
            @Paradox @ocean Even just looking for straightforward cooking instructions leads to LLM vomit being the first few results on Google.

            (It's somewhat better if one searches for recipes in other languages than English.)

            Not exactly what I'd consider niche.
            paradox@raru.reP This user is from outside of this forum
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            #31

            @lispi314
            Llm is always the first thing tried. You can ignore it.

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            • prisixia@mk.absturztau.beP prisixia@mk.absturztau.be

              @Stellar @ocean@raru.re The library

              lispi314@udongein.xyzL This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote on sidst redigeret af
              #32
              @prisixia @Stellar @ocean Publisher corposcum did their utmost to make it impossible for libraries to have practical malware-free access to ebooks through libraries.

              Borrowing the book to scan by oneself and digitize it is onerous and tedious.
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              • paradox@raru.reP paradox@raru.re

                @lispi314
                Llm is always the first thing tried. You can ignore it.

                lispi314@udongein.xyzL This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                #33
                @Paradox It seriously covers multiple pages at this point on the worst search-engines.

                Any topic that /isn't/ particularly niche suffers from it more.
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                • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                  You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                  Turns out that was on purpose

                  darwinwoodka@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  darwinwoodka@mastodon.social
                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                  #34

                  @ocean

                  duckduckgo ftw

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                  • darwinwoodka@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                    #35

                    @svenjacobs @ocean

                    duckduckgo

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                    • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                      You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                      Turns out that was on purpose

                      galamadryade@piaille.frG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      galamadryade@piaille.fr
                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                      #36

                      @ocean That's why I now use duckduckgo. SO MUCH BETTER.

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                      • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                        You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                        Turns out that was on purpose

                        delve@deadinsi.deD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                        #37

                        @ocean Least surprising revelation of the year to be honest.

                        I think the exact same thing is true of YouTube, which is so dominant that they can make it shittier every day and people will still use it.

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                        • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                          You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                          Turns out that was on purpose

                          peterbrown@mastodon.scotP This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #38

                          @ocean “The study suggests that poor organic search results actually benefit Google's bottom line in two ways: they make paid advertisements more valuable to users seeking accurate information, and they force users to refine their searches multiple times, exposing them to more advertising in the process.”

                          Aaargh!!

                          (glad I’ve stopped using Google as a search engine)

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                          • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                            You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                            Turns out that was on purpose

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                            #39

                            @ocean is there a source on this?

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                            • paradox@raru.reP paradox@raru.re

                              @ocean I need to understand what people are searching for and why the first page doesn't help them.
                              Cuz the only time I can't find something is because I don't really expect to find anything. Either cuz it's a very niche question or earlier when I tried to get a pdf/ebook of Harold and the Purple Crayon (still copyrighted I think, no straightforward download).

                              Like I believe people are having a hard time. I just can't tell from my experience.

                              heptasean@social.tchncs.deH This user is from outside of this forum
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                              wrote on sidst redigeret af
                              #40

                              @Paradox By the way: Never heard of “Harold and the Purple Crayon” before, but https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Harold+and+the+Purple+Crayon%22+PDF results in a PDF with a Hindi translation (including the English original, but black and white without purple) and a PDF with a version with additional graphic explanations for people with disabilities on the first search result page. … which probably is as good as it gets for a work still under copyright.

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                              • lispi314@udongein.xyzL lispi314@udongein.xyz
                                @Paradox It seriously covers multiple pages at this point on the worst search-engines.

                                Any topic that /isn't/ particularly niche suffers from it more.
                                heptasean@social.tchncs.deH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #41

                                @lispi314 You are not only talking about the snippet from *Google's* LLM at the top of the search results, but also about the other results? Haven't had *that* many obviously LLM-generated, but perhaps my interests are just niche enough. @Paradox

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                                • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                  You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                  Turns out that was on purpose

                                  gcvsa@mstdn.plusG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #42

                                  @ocean that's...actually diabolical.

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                                  • heptasean@social.tchncs.deH heptasean@social.tchncs.de

                                    @Paradox By the way: Never heard of “Harold and the Purple Crayon” before, but https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Harold+and+the+Purple+Crayon%22+PDF results in a PDF with a Hindi translation (including the English original, but black and white without purple) and a PDF with a version with additional graphic explanations for people with disabilities on the first search result page. … which probably is as good as it gets for a work still under copyright.

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                                    #43

                                    @HeptaSean
                                    It's an old kid's book about a boy that explores the world while drawing it all with his crayon.

                                    Thanks. ^_^

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                                    • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                      You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                      Turns out that was on purpose

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                                      #44

                                      @ocean right

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                                      • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                        You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                        Turns out that was on purpose

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                                        cassolotl@toot.wales
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                                        #45

                                        @ocean Source: https://journalrecord.com/2025/02/20/is-google-making-search-worse-to-sell-more-ads/

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                                        • heptasean@social.tchncs.deH heptasean@social.tchncs.de

                                          @lispi314 You are not only talking about the snippet from *Google's* LLM at the top of the search results, but also about the other results? Haven't had *that* many obviously LLM-generated, but perhaps my interests are just niche enough. @Paradox

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                                          #46
                                          @HeptaSean @Paradox Not the snippet, no. Pages on other domains linked by the search engine results.

                                          There's a certain... meandering meaninglessness to the text with a bunch of huge empty spaces on those sites (thanks adblockers) that's typical.

                                          Oh sure, the meaningless nonsense also used to get written-up by humans before but I don't consider spam to be worth more when written by humans instead of autogenerated.
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