The Minions of Avian Intelligence
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@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"my point is precisely that you can’t assume the Fediverse or the DDG poll was done on a random sample" - and your point is wrong, given you haven't provided any evidence of any bias"people sharing a DDG poll or using the Fediverse aren’t random" - yes they are!
"they are people that already have a bias toward privacy" - it's hilarious you're establishing a link between people who care about privacy being against AI. You're nearly getting it now
@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org Your last sentence is weird?
I mean, are you acknowledging that there is a link between caring privacy and being anti-AI?
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@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @Stem@framapiaf.org @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org I think that you should learn about filter bubble.
Local reality exist online the same way as they do offline. If you’re saying that a local reality isn’t a valid random sample, then a poll shared on the web isn’t either. Its results will depend on where it was shared, and who have shared it.
@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"I think that you should learn about filter bubble" - you mean you need to learn about Statistics"Local reality exist online the same way as they do offline" - so what you're saying is that a random sample online is representative of a random sample offline, as I've been saying all along
"If you’re saying that a local reality isn’t a valid random sample" - nope. I said the random samples went way beyond local realities
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@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"I think that you should learn about filter bubble" - you mean you need to learn about Statistics"Local reality exist online the same way as they do offline" - so what you're saying is that a random sample online is representative of a random sample offline, as I've been saying all along
"If you’re saying that a local reality isn’t a valid random sample" - nope. I said the random samples went way beyond local realities
@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org So local reality offline is a random sample? You said it was not?
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@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org Your last sentence is weird?
I mean, are you acknowledging that there is a link between caring privacy and being anti-AI?
@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"are you acknowledging that there is a link between caring privacy and being anti-AI?" - no, I was pointing out that YOU were -
@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org So local reality offline is a random sample? You said it was not?
@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"So local reality offline is a random sample?" - nope, never said that either
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@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"are you acknowledging that there is a link between caring privacy and being anti-AI?" - no, I was pointing out that YOU were@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org Yes?
There is a link between caring about privacy and being anti-AI.
There is a link between caring about the environment and being anti-AI too.
There is a lot of these links. That’s why it’s biased…
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@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"So local reality offline is a random sample?" - nope, never said that either@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org …but this poll was done in a local reality online…
You’re not making any sense.
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@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org …but this poll was done in a local reality online…
You’re not making any sense.
@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"but this poll was done in a local reality online" - no it wasn't. It was shared across multiple platforms"You’re not making any sense" - as I already said, you need to learn about Statistics. Do that and it will all make sense
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@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org Yes?
There is a link between caring about privacy and being anti-AI.
There is a link between caring about the environment and being anti-AI too.
There is a lot of these links. That’s why it’s biased…
@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"There is a lot of these links. That’s why it’s biased" - so you're saying if I see a lot of links about Nazi Germany in my timeline on a WWII anniversary, then I am biased towards Nazi's? I see you don't understand how polls work. Bye dude -
@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"but this poll was done in a local reality online" - no it wasn't. It was shared across multiple platforms"You’re not making any sense" - as I already said, you need to learn about Statistics. Do that and it will all make sense
@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org So if you ask tho the neighbour city instead of only the one you live in, that’s enough to convert the local reality of “your city” to a random sample?
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@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org So if you ask tho the neighbour city instead of only the one you live in, that’s enough to convert the local reality of “your city” to a random sample?
@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"So if you ask tho the neighbour city instead of only the one you live in" - you know these polls have run world-wide, right? -
@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"There is a lot of these links. That’s why it’s biased" - so you're saying if I see a lot of links about Nazi Germany in my timeline on a WWII anniversary, then I am biased towards Nazi's? I see you don't understand how polls work. Bye dude@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org I don’t think you understand how polls, statistics and social studies works.
Which is a bit concerning for a “maths teacher/tutor”.
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@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"So if you ask tho the neighbour city instead of only the one you live in" - you know these polls have run world-wide, right?@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org But not across the whole population, only part of it.
Local reality, or bubble filter, aren’t only geographic, you know?
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@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org I don’t think you understand how polls, statistics and social studies works.
Which is a bit concerning for a “maths teacher/tutor”.
@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"don’t think you understand how polls, statistics and social studies works" - I have a degree in Statistics dude, how about you?"Which is a bit concerning for a "maths teacher/tutor"" - which part did you miss where I majored in Statistics along the way to becoming a Maths teacher?
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@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"don’t think you understand how polls, statistics and social studies works" - I have a degree in Statistics dude, how about you?"Which is a bit concerning for a "maths teacher/tutor"" - which part did you miss where I majored in Statistics along the way to becoming a Maths teacher?
@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org That’s concerning…
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@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org But not across the whole population, only part of it.
Local reality, or bubble filter, aren’t only geographic, you know?
@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"not across the whole population, only part of it" - a random sample of it -
@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org That’s concerning…
@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"That’s concerning" - I'll take that as a no, you DON'T have a degree in Statistics then. Thanks for playing -
@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"not across the whole population, only part of it" - a random sample of it@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org How do you know it was?
Maybe it was, maybe it wasn’t. I bet it wasn’t.
I can’t prove it, but you can’t prove it was either.
That’s why we can’t conclude anything about it.
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@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org How do you know it was?
Maybe it was, maybe it wasn’t. I bet it wasn’t.
I can’t prove it, but you can’t prove it was either.
That’s why we can’t conclude anything about it.
@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @Stem@framapiaf.org @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org If you have more serious studies than “a poll on the web” to prove that 90% of the whole population is against IA, I’ll take them.
But a poll on the web will never be a thing that we can use to conclude anything by itself.
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@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"That’s concerning" - I'll take that as a no, you DON'T have a degree in Statistics then. Thanks for playing@SmartmanApps @breizh @Stem So, according to your logic, Smartman, if we would re-run the US presidential vote here (constrain: only with voter who have a Mastodon/Fediverse account since more than one year to exclude bot and newcomers) we would obtain the same result as the one reality gave us? Right?
Well, statistic or not, I wouldn't bet on that even a single Euro.
