Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

[dalias@hachyderm.io]

@grote This is still bad, and I don't want to downplay that, but it's a one-time thing users of F-Droid or other non-Play app sources will do once when setting up their phones and be done with. It's what I expected, and nowhere near as bad as being completely locked out or forced to go thru a waiting period/exemption process each time.

Still, we should continue to push back for a better outcome. Like dropping this nonsense entirely.

[valpackett@social.treehouse.systems]

@barefootstache @terminaltilt @old_angry_queer @grote no, of course not. they also usually "expire" every once in a while and you have to enter the password if you've only been using biometrics for a couple days

[mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org]

@grote or device PIN, thankfully; if it required biometrics I’d go up in anger

[geonz@mathstodon.xyz]

@Epic_Null @nazokiyoubinbou @FifiSch @grote
The techfolks of the "they should just be able to do this!" variety basically cannot understand certain realities.

[autolycos@beige.party]

@confusomu @nazokiyoubinbou @FifiSch @grote I JUST WANT A GOD-DAMNED ROTARY PHONE

[nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social]

@geonz @Epic_Null @FifiSch @grote It's easy enough to add insults, yeah, but the thing I'm not understanding is why people can't just follow a set of instructions that say "tap here, then there, connect the cable, copy and paste this text, done."

In fact, the fear there doesn't even make sense to me. Where do people even get the idea that they're so likely to brick? I won't say bricks never ever happened, but they really aren't that common. It's VERY hard to brick it so bad it can't be fixed just by redoing the process and following the instructions instead of typing something different or yanking out the cable or whatever. Even if you get the wrong image you can just flash the correct one after. It won't hard brick...

I don't even know how you could hard brick most...

[epic_null@infosec.exchange]

@geonz @nazokiyoubinbou @FifiSch @grote Yeah, that's one of the reasons I stopped replying.

[quenby@cutie.city]

@maddy

Good idea but also I really love your profile picture.

[geonz@mathstodon.xyz]

@Epic_Null @nazokiyoubinbou @FifiSch @grote (It reminds me of organized people who are "you're just not trying!" )

[lexyeen@plush.city]

@AlisonW @grote good(?) news, "jaywalking" isn't illegal in California.

this is only questionable because this makes it harder to do crime while being gay.

[_chris_real@kolektiva.social]

@grote

Yeah, yeah . . . Facebook said META would rule too.

Meanwhile, Lenovo, a major player, says 'Nuh-Uh" to Legacy defaults for Microsoft— with detailed performance reasons.

Ubuntu is their default OS, now . . .

[govinda_hari@hostux.social]

@leanderlindahl @grote
Noted.

I refuse to use the prefix meta- for Facebook.
Next generation [of people] will think ''metadata'' refers to data of Facebook.

[deborahh@cosocial.ca]

@grote @gnomon
"with biometrics" …
Na-uhn. Nope.

[daniel@gultsch.social]

@grote Yes and enabling the developer options in the first place is a non trivial thing either. (I mean for us that's second nature, but for regular users that's yet another step they have to learn how to do.)

Edit: The mic in that video looks like a fucking prop. No way the sound is actually recorded on that thing

[kouki21@unredacted.social]

@grote ok, what's freaking funny is this act is required UPON TURNING ON DEVELOPER MODE. Imagine if you need to do this every time you need to turn off developer mode because some banking apps check for developer mode. THIS IS HORRIBLE.

If you want to limit app installation, don't limit developer mode. Adb is borderline not ok but still, something else. Maybe this is only required if you need to enable app install from untrusted sources apk.

[kanary@sharkey.world]

@grote@chaos.social on Grapheneos you've to do the following

• Nothing
#grapheneos #fuckgoogle

[ahasty@techhub.social]

@leanderlindahl @grote

The only kind of side loading i know about

[anandu@mastodon.social]

@grote For developers, limited number of devices? Cool right? Also when can i turn of developers options? After 24 hours? What if google going to do something during that 24 hours like they going to install some app that going to monitor the apps we install or some walware app that activates after we install apps from other source so we will think its coz of that app.

[revan@shitpost.poridge.club]

@grote@chaos.social Stop using corporate language; this isn't a sideload, it's an installation. Just because it's done outside of Google Play Store doesn't make it any less of an installation. That's how they get to us - by taking away our speech.

[zeroase@fosstodon.org]

@grote "Advanced flow", meaning advanced cash flow into Google's greasy, greedy pockets.