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Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

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  • epic_null@infosec.exchangeE epic_null@infosec.exchange

    @geonz @nazokiyoubinbou @FifiSch @grote Yeah, that's one of the reasons I stopped replying.

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    #287

    @Epic_Null @nazokiyoubinbou @FifiSch @grote (It reminds me of organized people who are "you're just not trying!" )

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    • alisonw@fedimon.ukA alisonw@fedimon.uk

      @LexYeen @grote
      As bad as the USA car industry creating "jaywalking" as an imaginary crime in order to sell more cars. (Not a crime anywhere else)

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      #288

      @AlisonW @grote good(?) news, "jaywalking" isn't illegal in California.

      this is only questionable because this makes it harder to do crime while being gay.

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      • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

        Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

        * enable developer options
        * confirm that you are not tricked
        * restart phone and re-authenticate
        * wait one day
        * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
        * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
        * confirm that you accept the risks
        * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

        https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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        #289

        @grote

        Yeah, yeah . . . Facebook said META would rule too.

        Meanwhile, Lenovo, a major player, says 'Nuh-Uh" to Legacy defaults for Microsoft— with detailed performance reasons.

        Ubuntu is their default OS, now . . .

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        • leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.seL leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.se

          @grote please don't call installing software sideloading... We should refuse to use that term.

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          #290

          @leanderlindahl @grote
          Noted.

          I refuse to use the prefix meta- for Facebook.
          Next generation [of people] will think ''metadata'' refers to data of Facebook.

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          • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

            Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

            * enable developer options
            * confirm that you are not tricked
            * restart phone and re-authenticate
            * wait one day
            * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
            * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
            * confirm that you accept the risks
            * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

            https://goo.gle/advance-flow

            deborahh@cosocial.caD This user is from outside of this forum
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            #291

            @grote @gnomon
            "with biometrics" …
            Na-uhn. Nope. 👎

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            • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

              Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

              * enable developer options
              * confirm that you are not tricked
              * restart phone and re-authenticate
              * wait one day
              * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
              * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
              * confirm that you accept the risks
              * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

              https://goo.gle/advance-flow

              daniel@gultsch.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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              #292

              @grote Yes and enabling the developer options in the first place is a non trivial thing either. (I mean for us that's second nature, but for regular users that's yet another step they have to learn how to do.)

              Edit: The mic in that video looks like a fucking prop. No way the sound is actually recorded on that thing 😂

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              • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                They even have a video up where they try to make this all sound nice and positive:

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                #293

                @grote ok, what's freaking funny is this act is required UPON TURNING ON DEVELOPER MODE. Imagine if you need to do this every time you need to turn off developer mode because some banking apps check for developer mode. THIS IS HORRIBLE.

                If you want to limit app installation, don't limit developer mode. Adb is borderline not ok but still, something else. Maybe this is only required if you need to enable app install from untrusted sources apk.

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                • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                  Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                  * enable developer options
                  * confirm that you are not tricked
                  * restart phone and re-authenticate
                  * wait one day
                  * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                  * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                  * confirm that you accept the risks
                  * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                  https://goo.gle/advance-flow

                  kanary@sharkey.worldK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #294

                  @grote@chaos.social on Grapheneos you've to do the following

                  • Nothing
                  #grapheneos #fuckgoogle

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                  • leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.seL leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.se

                    @grote please don't call installing software sideloading... We should refuse to use that term.

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                    #295

                    @leanderlindahl @grote

                    The only kind of side loading i know about

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                    • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                      Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                      * enable developer options
                      * confirm that you are not tricked
                      * restart phone and re-authenticate
                      * wait one day
                      * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                      * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                      * confirm that you accept the risks
                      * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                      https://goo.gle/advance-flow

                      anandu@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #296

                      @grote For developers, limited number of devices? Cool right? Also when can i turn of developers options? After 24 hours? What if google going to do something during that 24 hours like they going to install some app that going to monitor the apps we install or some walware app that activates after we install apps from other source so we will think its coz of that app.

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                      • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                        Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                        * enable developer options
                        * confirm that you are not tricked
                        * restart phone and re-authenticate
                        * wait one day
                        * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                        * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                        * confirm that you accept the risks
                        * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                        https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                        #297

                        @grote@chaos.social Stop using corporate language; this isn't a sideload, it's an installation. Just because it's done outside of Google Play Store doesn't make it any less of an installation. That's how they get to us - by taking away our speech.

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                        • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                          Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                          * enable developer options
                          * confirm that you are not tricked
                          * restart phone and re-authenticate
                          * wait one day
                          * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                          * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                          * confirm that you accept the risks
                          * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                          https://goo.gle/advance-flow

                          zeroase@fosstodon.orgZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #298

                          @grote "Advanced flow", meaning advanced cash flow into Google's greasy, greedy pockets.

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                          • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                            They even have a video up where they try to make this all sound nice and positive:

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                            #299

                            @grote "For power users, we think this is a fair trade-off." Now go and ask the power users.

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                            • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                              Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                              * enable developer options
                              * confirm that you are not tricked
                              * restart phone and re-authenticate
                              * wait one day
                              * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                              * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                              * confirm that you accept the risks
                              * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                              https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                              eingemaischt@chaos.social
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                              #300

                              @grote will the phone be considered as "insecure" für banking apps?

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                              • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                * enable developer options
                                * confirm that you are not tricked
                                * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                * wait one day
                                * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                                * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                                * confirm that you accept the risks
                                * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #301

                                @grote
                                Allamaraine levels of complication.
                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urixf-E6SWE

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                                • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                  Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                  * enable developer options
                                  * confirm that you are not tricked
                                  * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                  * wait one day
                                  * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                                  * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                                  * confirm that you accept the risks
                                  * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                  https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #302

                                  @grote
                                  What the tricolor foaming fuck

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                                  • kanary@sharkey.worldK kanary@sharkey.world

                                    @grote@chaos.social on Grapheneos you've to do the following

                                    • Nothing
                                    #grapheneos #fuckgoogle

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                                    #303

                                    @kanary @grote many usw grapheneOS with Google play. Let's see how they will do.

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                                      #304

                                      @kepstin @LexYeen @grote The analogy I like to use is to imagine an old flour mill, with the loading door 30 feet in the air accompanied by an overhanging hook used to hold a hoist.

                                      App stores are like loading flour by hoisting bags up to the virtually inaccessible loading door.

                                      But if you just toss a bag of flour over your shoulder, walk in through the side door and go upstairs with it, no problem. That's side-loading!

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                                      • deborahh@cosocial.caD deborahh@cosocial.ca

                                        @grote @gnomon
                                        "with biometrics" …
                                        Na-uhn. Nope. 👎

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                                        #305

                                        @deborahh @grote @gnomon It does say with biometrics or PIN, so you use your normal login method.

                                        The whole thing is still 🤢 though

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                                        • alisonw@fedimon.ukA alisonw@fedimon.uk

                                          @LexYeen @grote
                                          As bad as the USA car industry creating "jaywalking" as an imaginary crime in order to sell more cars. (Not a crime anywhere else)

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                                          #306

                                          @AlisonW @LexYeen @grote it's a violation in Poland and when a driver runs you over while you're jaywalking you get a ticket

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