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When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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  • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

    When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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    #27

    @aral Thank you for saying this Aral. I often wonder how to point out to folks who post links to exclusive platforms, that this excludes me. And anyone else who takes a stance and refuses to use those platforms...

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    • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

      When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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      #28

      @aral it’s Schrödinger's content. If you login to view it, the quantum superposition collapses and you discover it either doesn’t exist, or that it wasn’t worth the effort because of the rest of the garbage on those platforms.

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      • felwert@fedihum.orgF felwert@fedihum.org

        @Krazov @aral Sure, it’s their choice. I still find “has a Bluesky account” a weird scope for privacy.

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        #29

        @felwert @aral Seen alone, perhaps. The scenario I can see is this: they block people on Bluesky and by making their posts BS-only, they make sure that blockers cannot simply open a private tab and read them. A lot of visibility aspects on Mastodon were driven by these situations, too. That Bluesky allows only such a solution is not their fault.

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        • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

          When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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          #30
          @aral yeah 😔 at least for X, there is nitter. Just replace x.com with nitter.net

          Don't know about Instagram and Facebook, but im sure there is some way to view anonymously
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          • dps910@social.freedombits.orgD dps910@social.freedombits.org
            @aral yeah 😔 at least for X, there is nitter. Just replace x.com with nitter.net

            Don't know about Instagram and Facebook, but im sure there is some way to view anonymously
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            #31
            @aral oh also for reddit since it likes to block vpns, there is redlib. various different instances, the one I like to use is redlib.privacyredirect.com 🙂
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            • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

              When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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              #32

              @aral any business "website" that is just a Facebook page is an instant fail and no longer an option for me. Being pestered to create an account just check opening hours, what a great experience that is for new customers.

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              • elettrona@poliversity.itE elettrona@poliversity.it

                @Amorpheus @aral @_elena @vicfroh About paywalls I'm giving subscriptions systems more possibilities. We must think of it. Writing or creating videos genuinely, cost. So paywalls are a way to work. Then, yes, if you have a clickbait or misunderstandable/false abstract to force you to pay, that's called scam

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                #33

                @elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh I fully agree that independent journalism requires financing that is independent from state or corporations.

                However, in my country for example, press codex states the duty of informing the public fully and truthful. Imho, the public includes such individuals that are less fortunate and not able to afford a subscription.

                50 years back, before digital publishing, printed newspapers could be evaluated without financial obligation... head articles at the least.

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                • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                  When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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                  #34

                  @aral I just pass now. I have ancient accounts but offloaded the apps. Isn’t worth the hassle anymore. I’ll interact with people that have a social conscience instead.

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    @aral I'm actually writing a blog post arguing that public institutions should start seeing the Fediverse as the ideal publishing platform for sharing communications with their constituents.

                    May I quote your post, this is super relevant?

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                    #35

                    @_elena @aral in europe, public organisations are taking care of much of the necessary infrastructure like railroads and roads. To make it possible for citizens to have easy and free access to decentralized digital platforms, european governments could host those servers themselves professionally. That would also take the burden off private volunteers working their buts off to keep servers in the air with all expenses connected. And so, decentralized services could also become more sustainable.

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                    • amorpheus@kind.socialA amorpheus@kind.social

                      @elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh I fully agree that independent journalism requires financing that is independent from state or corporations.

                      However, in my country for example, press codex states the duty of informing the public fully and truthful. Imho, the public includes such individuals that are less fortunate and not able to afford a subscription.

                      50 years back, before digital publishing, printed newspapers could be evaluated without financial obligation... head articles at the least.

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                      #36

                      @Amorpheus @aral @_elena @vicfroh I agree. And, talking about digital newspapers, I'm blind. There are tons of digital newspapers which, if I pay them, I them find out they're IMAGES. Just PDF images not readable by assistive tech. What does it mean? Throw money down the toilet drain.
                      There are many blind-related associations which provide newspapers, but they decide which agreements to sign, according to political positions or whatever else, the result is that we can access what others want us to.

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                      • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                        When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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                        #37

                        @aral And this is what public #Mastodon posts look like!

                        Even viewed from a 3rd instance it's still fully visible without account

                        Basically on each server with public timelines etc so tens of thousands of places

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                        • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                          When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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                          #38

                          @aral
                          Agreed, but as a workaround use the alternative frontend.

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                          • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                            When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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                            #39

                            @aral Tbh, I just use it as an excuse to not go any further, which usually ends up helping my blood pressure.

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                            • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                              When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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                              #40

                              @aral beautiful 👌

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                              • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                                When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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                                #41

                                @aral At least for Twitter, this is not true. Yeah, the page exhorts you to create an account - but it *does* show the post. At least on desktop; maybe it's different on mobile.

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                                • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                                  When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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                                  #42

                                  @aral Shit like this make me wonder why this alone hasn’t lead to a giant user revolt and exodus years ago. Like, this should be completely disqualifying.
                                  The whole point of "social media" goes out of the window if ALL posts are locked away (usually against the user’s wishes btw).

                                  These terrible private billionaire playgrounds cannot crumble fast enough.

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                                  • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                                    When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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                                    #43

                                    @aral malware

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                                    • bontchev@infosec.exchangeB bontchev@infosec.exchange

                                      @aral At least for Twitter, this is not true. Yeah, the page exhorts you to create an account - but it *does* show the post. At least on desktop; maybe it's different on mobile.

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                                      #44

                                      @bontchev @aral it doesn't show the comments though, so you can't see the full post if someone divided it into multiple subposts (the 1/3, 2/3, 3/3 thing in replies)

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                                      • bontchev@infosec.exchangeB bontchev@infosec.exchange

                                        @aral At least for Twitter, this is not true. Yeah, the page exhorts you to create an account - but it *does* show the post. At least on desktop; maybe it's different on mobile.

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                                        #45

                                        @bontchev @aral yeah on mobile it doesn't a lot of the time. I get around this by toggling the "view as desktop site" on my mobile browser. This also works with instagram and Facebook sometimes. But sometimes it'll still redirect you to a login page.

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                                        • bontchev@infosec.exchangeB bontchev@infosec.exchange

                                          @aral At least for Twitter, this is not true. Yeah, the page exhorts you to create an account - but it *does* show the post. At least on desktop; maybe it's different on mobile.

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                                          #46

                                          @bontchev @aral it seems X will allow certain accounts to be viewed without logging in, but not all.

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