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People in Europe, please don't let your politicians gaslight you like American politicians do to them.

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  • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

    @chu
    here in #sweden, 99% of humans eat animals, so it appears that the overwhelming majority would rather have deadly #heatwaves than #vegan hotdogs.

    sure, blame #politicians for their actions. but a people, who want to eat butchered animals, will obviously elect politicians who allow for #slaughterhouses to exist. it's not like the politicians aren't listening here.
    https://watchdominion.org

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    #10

    @pelle @chu A lot of people have personal vehicles, does that mean that policymakers and car manufacturers have no blame?

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    • chu@climatejustice.socialC chu@climatejustice.social

      People in Europe, please don't let your politicians gaslight you like American politicians do to them.

      After every school shooting is never the time to talk about gun control. Making it political is somehow "disrespectful" to the innocent children shot by mad men who got easy access to deadly weapons.

      Now is the time to make every heat death political. Make every death count. Scream to the rafters. Hold public funerals for victims of heat deaths. Name the perpetrators. Don't let their deaths become meaningless.

      Tell their stories. Use the opportunity to tell children about the lies of fossil fuels. Build monuments. Hold vigils. Sue fossil fuel companies for wrongful death.

      Whatever tools you have, use them loudly and proudly. Don't let this slide.

      #climatechange

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      #11

      @chu "politicians gaslight you" ... 'Making it political is somehow "disrespectful" to the innocent children shot'

      Just saying: that specific, toxic, psychological tactic has a name: "blaming the victim"

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      • chu@climatejustice.socialC chu@climatejustice.social

        People in Europe, please don't let your politicians gaslight you like American politicians do to them.

        After every school shooting is never the time to talk about gun control. Making it political is somehow "disrespectful" to the innocent children shot by mad men who got easy access to deadly weapons.

        Now is the time to make every heat death political. Make every death count. Scream to the rafters. Hold public funerals for victims of heat deaths. Name the perpetrators. Don't let their deaths become meaningless.

        Tell their stories. Use the opportunity to tell children about the lies of fossil fuels. Build monuments. Hold vigils. Sue fossil fuel companies for wrongful death.

        Whatever tools you have, use them loudly and proudly. Don't let this slide.

        #climatechange

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        #12

        @chu

        drape shell, bp amoco or exxon flags over the coffins.

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        • chu@climatejustice.socialC chu@climatejustice.social

          People in Europe, please don't let your politicians gaslight you like American politicians do to them.

          After every school shooting is never the time to talk about gun control. Making it political is somehow "disrespectful" to the innocent children shot by mad men who got easy access to deadly weapons.

          Now is the time to make every heat death political. Make every death count. Scream to the rafters. Hold public funerals for victims of heat deaths. Name the perpetrators. Don't let their deaths become meaningless.

          Tell their stories. Use the opportunity to tell children about the lies of fossil fuels. Build monuments. Hold vigils. Sue fossil fuel companies for wrongful death.

          Whatever tools you have, use them loudly and proudly. Don't let this slide.

          #climatechange

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          #13

          @chu using gas to light the misinformation is part of the problem!
          Jokes aside, politicians need to be held accountable for their (in)actions and those making obscene amounts of money sticking to fossil fuels and pumping out pollution need to be contained (but they have very good PR people and can afford influence).

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          • chu@climatejustice.socialC chu@climatejustice.social

            People in Europe, please don't let your politicians gaslight you like American politicians do to them.

            After every school shooting is never the time to talk about gun control. Making it political is somehow "disrespectful" to the innocent children shot by mad men who got easy access to deadly weapons.

            Now is the time to make every heat death political. Make every death count. Scream to the rafters. Hold public funerals for victims of heat deaths. Name the perpetrators. Don't let their deaths become meaningless.

            Tell their stories. Use the opportunity to tell children about the lies of fossil fuels. Build monuments. Hold vigils. Sue fossil fuel companies for wrongful death.

            Whatever tools you have, use them loudly and proudly. Don't let this slide.

            #climatechange

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            #14

            @chu @theory I was confused about this at first because there was a mass shooting this morning in Germany

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            • jason@logoff.websiteJ jason@logoff.website

              @chu @theory I was confused about this at first because there was a mass shooting this morning in Germany

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              @jason @chu WAT

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              • mcjevans@hachyderm.ioM mcjevans@hachyderm.io

                @pelle @chu
                Sweden has the second-lowest CO2 emissions per capita among the IEA member countries.

                https://www.iea.org/countries/sweden/emissions

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                #16

                @mcjevans @chu
                yes, and IEA members are rich countries. #Sweden has almost 20 × the flesh consumption per capita of India. #Sweden "celebrated" #EarthOvershootDay on April 4th this year.
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_meat_consumption

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                • pallasriot@social.treehouse.systemsP pallasriot@social.treehouse.systems

                  @pelle @chu A lot of people have personal vehicles, does that mean that policymakers and car manufacturers have no blame?

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                  #17

                  @PallasRiot @chu
                  yes, car manufacturers and policymakers have a responsibilty for motorist supremacy, but you can't just buy an SUV and wash your hands: »why aren't the politicians doing anything about the climate?«

                  driving is a choice. making that choice means being okay with flattening a certain amount of deer, rabbits, frogs, snakes, foxes, mice and badgers, and making the city streets unsafe for kids as well as grown ups, and polluting air and water with exhaust and microplastics.

                  similarly, the US gun lobby has a responsibilty for gun violence, but that doesn't absolve the person who pulls the trigger.

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                  • chu@climatejustice.socialC chu@climatejustice.social

                    People in Europe, please don't let your politicians gaslight you like American politicians do to them.

                    After every school shooting is never the time to talk about gun control. Making it political is somehow "disrespectful" to the innocent children shot by mad men who got easy access to deadly weapons.

                    Now is the time to make every heat death political. Make every death count. Scream to the rafters. Hold public funerals for victims of heat deaths. Name the perpetrators. Don't let their deaths become meaningless.

                    Tell their stories. Use the opportunity to tell children about the lies of fossil fuels. Build monuments. Hold vigils. Sue fossil fuel companies for wrongful death.

                    Whatever tools you have, use them loudly and proudly. Don't let this slide.

                    #climatechange

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                    #18

                    @chu Yeah, we gave them the benefit of the doubt and didn't advocate immediately after a shooting...and they just did it anyway, sometimes within minutes of news breaking. My guess if your respective conservative/far-right party will do the same.

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                    • fluttersh@pony.socialF fluttersh@pony.social

                      @chu for real we need ACs in the building code here

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                      @chu also airflow architecture so air doesn't stay stagnant in apartments

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                      • susibryant@mastodon.socialS susibryant@mastodon.social

                        @mcjevans @pelle @chu
                        Thank you for fact checking.

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                        @Susibryant @mcjevans @pelle @chu
                        The poll, where 99% of swedes responded that they eat animals, is from March 2026: https://www.svtplay.se/video/K1qQgnn/skavlan-och-sverige-1/skulle-du-lagt-algen-i-ambulansen

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                        • chu@climatejustice.socialC chu@climatejustice.social

                          People in Europe, please don't let your politicians gaslight you like American politicians do to them.

                          After every school shooting is never the time to talk about gun control. Making it political is somehow "disrespectful" to the innocent children shot by mad men who got easy access to deadly weapons.

                          Now is the time to make every heat death political. Make every death count. Scream to the rafters. Hold public funerals for victims of heat deaths. Name the perpetrators. Don't let their deaths become meaningless.

                          Tell their stories. Use the opportunity to tell children about the lies of fossil fuels. Build monuments. Hold vigils. Sue fossil fuel companies for wrongful death.

                          Whatever tools you have, use them loudly and proudly. Don't let this slide.

                          #climatechange

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                          @chu sadly a prophetical post given the shooting in Stade, Germany.

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                          • theory@xoxo.zoneT theory@xoxo.zone

                            @jason @chu WAT

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                            @theory
                            It was not in a school, but in a youth center.
                            But anyways, 6 are dead. (all adults)
                            2 have been arrested.
                            there will be a press-conference at 19.30
                            edit: corrected the time for the press conference

                            https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/niedersachsen/lueneburg_heide_unterelbe/liveticker-zu-stade-sechste-person-stirbt-nach-schuessen-in-jugendeinrichtung,stade-150.html

                            @jason @chu

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                            • catflyhigh@troet.cafeC catflyhigh@troet.cafe

                              @theory
                              It was not in a school, but in a youth center.
                              But anyways, 6 are dead. (all adults)
                              2 have been arrested.
                              there will be a press-conference at 19.30
                              edit: corrected the time for the press conference

                              https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/niedersachsen/lueneburg_heide_unterelbe/liveticker-zu-stade-sechste-person-stirbt-nach-schuessen-in-jugendeinrichtung,stade-150.html

                              @jason @chu

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                              @catflyhigh @jason @chu Jesus

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                              • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

                                @chu
                                here in #sweden, 99% of humans eat animals, so it appears that the overwhelming majority would rather have deadly #heatwaves than #vegan hotdogs.

                                sure, blame #politicians for their actions. but a people, who want to eat butchered animals, will obviously elect politicians who allow for #slaughterhouses to exist. it's not like the politicians aren't listening here.
                                https://watchdominion.org

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                                @pelle@veganism.social

                                people being animals who need to eat food is not the cause of global climate change & your derail is probably unhelpful

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                                • theory@xoxo.zoneT theory@xoxo.zone

                                  @catflyhigh @jason @chu Jesus

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                                  #25

                                  @theory @catflyhigh @jason

                                  Sorry.
                                  I posted this before this happened. I didn't mean for it to sting quite like that.

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                                  • chu@climatejustice.socialC chu@climatejustice.social

                                    @theory @catflyhigh @jason

                                    Sorry.
                                    I posted this before this happened. I didn't mean for it to sting quite like that.

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                                    @chu @catflyhigh @jason Of course, bad timing is all

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                                    • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

                                      @PallasRiot @chu
                                      yes, car manufacturers and policymakers have a responsibilty for motorist supremacy, but you can't just buy an SUV and wash your hands: »why aren't the politicians doing anything about the climate?«

                                      driving is a choice. making that choice means being okay with flattening a certain amount of deer, rabbits, frogs, snakes, foxes, mice and badgers, and making the city streets unsafe for kids as well as grown ups, and polluting air and water with exhaust and microplastics.

                                      similarly, the US gun lobby has a responsibilty for gun violence, but that doesn't absolve the person who pulls the trigger.

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                                      @pelle @chu I think the absurdity of your response kind of makes my point for me lol

                                      You can be as upset as you want at individual motorists, and they will continue to need to get to work. Individual consumptive choices are seldom a very coherent or organized form of political expression.

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                                      • pallasriot@social.treehouse.systemsP pallasriot@social.treehouse.systems

                                        @pelle @chu I think the absurdity of your response kind of makes my point for me lol

                                        You can be as upset as you want at individual motorists, and they will continue to need to get to work. Individual consumptive choices are seldom a very coherent or organized form of political expression.

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                                        #28

                                        @PallasRiot @chu
                                        lol what a motor brained response

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                                        • peachfront@toot.communityP peachfront@toot.community

                                          @pelle@veganism.social

                                          people being animals who need to eat food is not the cause of global climate change & your derail is probably unhelpful

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                                          #29

                                          @peachfront
                                          lol, #vegans are not against food.
                                          you're mixing up #veganism and #breathatarianism.
                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inedia

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