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  • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

    “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

    Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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    #49

    @stux This assumes that the LLM pulls up "Facts" as opposed to some halucination.

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    • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

      “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

      Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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      #50

      @stux
      Hand cash to a store clerk and watch the look of sheer panic on their face.

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      • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

        @econads @landelare @stux This is exactly the same reason the same people who were yelling at kids "don't trust what you read on the internet" are now trusting every piece of propaganda and slop in their Facebook feeds.

        Then, "on the internet" meant queer anarchist hackers. Now it means "right wing disinformation machines".

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        drchaos@sauropods.win
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        #51

        @dalias @econads @landelare @stux TBF there was a lot of BS in Wikipedia in physics, me and my fellow PhD student tried to correct some of the stuff - it got reverted to the wrong thing.
        Made it easier to spot undisclosed Wikipedia is though.

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        • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

          “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

          Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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          #52

          @stux I can make more money on my video game than I could ever make in real life. 😛

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          • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

            “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

            Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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            #53

            @stux

            Ignorance and laziness have no limits, they never had…

            The only tools we actually need is common sense, fact checking and critical thinking…
            Domain knowledge you gather along the way. Experience is what it is called…

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            • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

              “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

              Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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              #54

              @stux why learn a second language when you can just use a translator? Why cook food when you can just eat take out?

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              • lanodan@queer.hacktivis.meL lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
                @stux Or teaching math that pocket calculators have been able to do since the ~80's
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                #55

                @lanodan @stux ich bin der musikant mit taschenrechner in der hand und wenn ich diese taste druecke dann spielt er ein kleines musikstueck ~~ kraftwerk

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                • ozzelot@mstdn.socialO ozzelot@mstdn.social

                  @lanodan
                  such teachings go well into universities! where will it stop! /s

                  (okay, not sure about 80s calculators, but the TI-92... What a beast.)
                  @stux

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                  #56

                  @ozzelot @lanodan @stux i liked the ti-36x solar. i learned to like the hp 35s. rpn is quite convenient. i wish i had learned to use a slide scale. arithmetic is just practice.

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                  • lisp1984@mastodon.socialL lisp1984@mastodon.social

                    @ozzelot @lanodan @stux i liked the ti-36x solar. i learned to like the hp 35s. rpn is quite convenient. i wish i had learned to use a slide scale. arithmetic is just practice.

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                    #57

                    @ozzelot @lanodan @stux *slide rule*

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                    • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                      @stux Boy, does this ever reflect how little these people know about actual humans. The skill of memorisation is one that we use our entire lives, and develops a brain with more capacity and better recall. What you're actually memorising doesn't matter. It's the skill of doing it that matters.

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                      #58

                      @Remittancegirl @stux Or how little they know about the education system and it's purpose.

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                      • lisp1984@mastodon.socialL lisp1984@mastodon.social

                        @ozzelot @lanodan @stux *slide rule*

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                        #59

                        @lisp1984
                        I have... repeatedly been taught how to use one 😄 I should practice more.
                        @lanodan @stux

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                        • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                          “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

                          Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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                          #60

                          @stux JFC we are doomed

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                          • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                            “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

                            Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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                            #61

                            @stux

                            This is your #source ? I ask because the text continues beyond that quoted statement.

                            https://x.com/JuliaEMcCoy/status/2028538251196371374

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                            • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                              “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

                              Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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                              #62

                              @stux 😆

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                              • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

                                Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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                                #63

                                @stux they're even teaching you to, *gasp*, think critically!

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                                • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                  @stux Boy, does this ever reflect how little these people know about actual humans. The skill of memorisation is one that we use our entire lives, and develops a brain with more capacity and better recall. What you're actually memorising doesn't matter. It's the skill of doing it that matters.

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                                  #64

                                  @Remittancegirl @stux

                                  The skills involved in looking up "facts" and corroborating them as best you can are various and just as important. Asking "the drunk at the dull end of the bar" instead leads just there: to the corner of the bar. We should teach our children well. #factchecking

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                                  • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                    “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

                                    Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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                                    #65

                                    @stux there's also something wrong with your school if all the kids do is memorizing shit. Just sayin'...

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                                    • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                      “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

                                      Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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                                      #66

                                      @stux think of all the food they have to eat? We could simply throw that in the trash too.

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                                      • a_denie@toot.ioA a_denie@toot.io

                                        @stux @Remittancegirl especially when you're surrounded by nonsense that's being reproduced at light speed.

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                                        #67

                                        @A_denie @stux @Remittancegirl
                                        Yeah and the biggest lie in that whole scheme is that ChatGPT knows nothing about facts. It just produces plausible looking output. Any similarities with actual facts is being lucky.

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                                        • turre@mementomori.socialT turre@mementomori.social

                                          @A_denie @stux @Remittancegirl
                                          Yeah and the biggest lie in that whole scheme is that ChatGPT knows nothing about facts. It just produces plausible looking output. Any similarities with actual facts is being lucky.

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                                          #68

                                          @Turre @A_denie @stux @Remittancegirl Yeah, I've played around with some of these AI bots just to see what all the hype was about, and it's SHOCKINGLY easy to get them to confidently lie to you. Hell, I've seen lots of people use screenshots as evidence in discussions online, and it's all wrong.

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