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  • ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA ariarhythmic@ohai.social

    @Remittancegirl @stux "What you're actually memorising doesn't matter." is how we get abusive, bullshit-riddled schools completely detached from their stated purpose. What you're learning matters! And if you're actually learning, you shouldn't have to go out of your way to memorize.

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    #43

    @Remittancegirl @stux I'm sick and tired of apologism for torturous "education".
    Especially the mass delusion of ill-defined nebulous positive side effects of torturous tedious memorization somehow making it the best way.
    Those effects can be brought by any subject matter, there is no need for it to be bullshit that "doesn't matter" and sucks the soul out of every participant.

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    • blotosmetek@circumstances.runB blotosmetek@circumstances.run

      @Remittancegirl @stux oh yes; I once complained as a student that they're teaching us things that were obsolete already or would become obsolete soon. I remember my later boss answering: "It's not important what you chew; the important thing is the training of your jaws…"

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      #44

      @blotosmetek @Remittancegirl @stux Literally arguing for lies in schools.

      I'm blocking every nutcase in this thread, I can't take this shit.

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      • paulnickson@mastodon.socialP paulnickson@mastodon.social

        @ASprinkleofSage @stux Tell that to my history teacher (in the 60s/70s)!

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        #45

        @PaulNickson @ASprinkleofSage @stux School missed the whole point of school.

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        • andycarolan@social.lolA andycarolan@social.lol

          @stux We are already starting to get people who cannot think without a stable internet connection 🤔

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          #46

          @andycarolan @stux

          Incompetence.

          (sowly shakes head side-to-side)

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          • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

            “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

            Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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            #47

            @stux or 1.6 kilometres. rote learning is important. music and art classes should be funded so kids can play instruments and be creative.
            stop promoting guber. guber's intention was to put taxi cabs out of business then raise prices. also, guber wants to destroy mass transit.
            guber pays no taxes.
            schlepp.

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            • ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA ariarhythmic@ohai.social

              @PaulNickson @ASprinkleofSage @stux School missed the whole point of school.

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              #48

              @ariarhythmic @PaulNickson @stux drawing cocks on desks

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              • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

                Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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                #49

                @stux This assumes that the LLM pulls up "Facts" as opposed to some halucination.

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                • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                  “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

                  Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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                  #50

                  @stux
                  Hand cash to a store clerk and watch the look of sheer panic on their face.

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                  • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                    @econads @landelare @stux This is exactly the same reason the same people who were yelling at kids "don't trust what you read on the internet" are now trusting every piece of propaganda and slop in their Facebook feeds.

                    Then, "on the internet" meant queer anarchist hackers. Now it means "right wing disinformation machines".

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                    #51

                    @dalias @econads @landelare @stux TBF there was a lot of BS in Wikipedia in physics, me and my fellow PhD student tried to correct some of the stuff - it got reverted to the wrong thing.
                    Made it easier to spot undisclosed Wikipedia is though.

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                    • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                      “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

                      Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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                      #52

                      @stux I can make more money on my video game than I could ever make in real life. 😛

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                      • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                        “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

                        Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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                        #53

                        @stux

                        Ignorance and laziness have no limits, they never had…

                        The only tools we actually need is common sense, fact checking and critical thinking…
                        Domain knowledge you gather along the way. Experience is what it is called…

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                        • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                          “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

                          Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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                          #54

                          @stux why learn a second language when you can just use a translator? Why cook food when you can just eat take out?

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                          • lanodan@queer.hacktivis.meL lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
                            @stux Or teaching math that pocket calculators have been able to do since the ~80's
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                            #55

                            @lanodan @stux ich bin der musikant mit taschenrechner in der hand und wenn ich diese taste druecke dann spielt er ein kleines musikstueck ~~ kraftwerk

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                            • ozzelot@mstdn.socialO ozzelot@mstdn.social

                              @lanodan
                              such teachings go well into universities! where will it stop! /s

                              (okay, not sure about 80s calculators, but the TI-92... What a beast.)
                              @stux

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                              #56

                              @ozzelot @lanodan @stux i liked the ti-36x solar. i learned to like the hp 35s. rpn is quite convenient. i wish i had learned to use a slide scale. arithmetic is just practice.

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                              • lisp1984@mastodon.socialL lisp1984@mastodon.social

                                @ozzelot @lanodan @stux i liked the ti-36x solar. i learned to like the hp 35s. rpn is quite convenient. i wish i had learned to use a slide scale. arithmetic is just practice.

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                                #57

                                @ozzelot @lanodan @stux *slide rule*

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                                • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                  @stux Boy, does this ever reflect how little these people know about actual humans. The skill of memorisation is one that we use our entire lives, and develops a brain with more capacity and better recall. What you're actually memorising doesn't matter. It's the skill of doing it that matters.

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                                  #58

                                  @Remittancegirl @stux Or how little they know about the education system and it's purpose.

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                                  • lisp1984@mastodon.socialL lisp1984@mastodon.social

                                    @ozzelot @lanodan @stux *slide rule*

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                                    #59

                                    @lisp1984
                                    I have... repeatedly been taught how to use one 😄 I should practice more.
                                    @lanodan @stux

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                                    • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                      “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

                                      Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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                                      #60

                                      @stux JFC we are doomed

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                                      • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                        “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

                                        Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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                                        #61

                                        @stux

                                        This is your #source ? I ask because the text continues beyond that quoted statement.

                                        https://x.com/JuliaEMcCoy/status/2028538251196371374

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                                        • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                          “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

                                          Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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                                          #62

                                          @stux 😆

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