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How can a mastodon user tell if their account is "hidden" or "limited" ?

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  • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

    @footils @FediTips

    ive heard from several people who have not been emailed a reason

    (I too on previous servers had my account disabled completely with no reason and no response from the admin/owner, and also no reply for GDPR requests given they were based in the EU)

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    #9

    @charlesdelavalleepoussin @footils

    The email notification is only if it's your own server admin limiting/suspending your account.

    Blocks from other servers do not generate any emails.

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    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

      @charlesdelavalleepoussin @footils

      The email notification is only if it's your own server admin limiting/suspending your account.

      Blocks from other servers do not generate any emails.

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      #10

      @FediTips @footils

      my own admin on a previous server blocked me completely with no warning, no explanation

      and no replies to emails

      and no replies to GDPR requests

      who holds the admins to account?

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      • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

        @FediTips

        but they don't reply

        and also "go find another server" is like "this restaurant is racist? go elsewhere". it puts the onus on the victim not the perpetrator

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        #11

        @charlesdelavalleepoussin

        Most accounts that are blocked are things like spambots, trolls, scammers etc. If admins were unable to block accounts against their will, the entire network would become toxic and unusable for everyone.

        It's up to each admin to decide what is acceptable on their server, and users can decide which server to join based on what is acceptable there.

        Being blocked doesn't make you a victim, it just means that that particular server doesn't want to communicate with you.

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        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

          @charlesdelavalleepoussin

          Most accounts that are blocked are things like spambots, trolls, scammers etc. If admins were unable to block accounts against their will, the entire network would become toxic and unusable for everyone.

          It's up to each admin to decide what is acceptable on their server, and users can decide which server to join based on what is acceptable there.

          Being blocked doesn't make you a victim, it just means that that particular server doesn't want to communicate with you.

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          #12

          @FediTips

          I'm not communicating with that server. I communicated with people I followed and who followed me.

          Your privileged rationalisation of victimhood will age badly.

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          • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

            @FediTips @footils

            my own admin on a previous server blocked me completely with no warning, no explanation

            and no replies to emails

            and no replies to GDPR requests

            who holds the admins to account?

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            #13

            @charlesdelavalleepoussin @footils

            I am not a lawyer so I cannot comment on GDPR requests.

            Admins are held to account by other admins, rogue servers that behave badly tend to get defederated and isolated. For example when the far right server Gab tried to join the Fedi, servers mostly defederated it.

            Each server is independent by design, there is no central authority imposing a particular set of rules. A central authority would bring its own dangers of Musk etc taking over such an authority.

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            • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

              @charlesdelavalleepoussin @footils

              I am not a lawyer so I cannot comment on GDPR requests.

              Admins are held to account by other admins, rogue servers that behave badly tend to get defederated and isolated. For example when the far right server Gab tried to join the Fedi, servers mostly defederated it.

              Each server is independent by design, there is no central authority imposing a particular set of rules. A central authority would bring its own dangers of Musk etc taking over such an authority.

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              #14

              @FediTips @footils

              have you not noticed how un-diverse mastodon is?

              have you not questioned why?

              a bunch of self-regulating bros? what could possibly be wrong with that?

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              • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

                @FediTips @footils

                have you not noticed how un-diverse mastodon is?

                have you not questioned why?

                a bunch of self-regulating bros? what could possibly be wrong with that?

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                #15

                @charlesdelavalleepoussin

                Who are you suggesting should regulate it? Elon Musk? Mark Zuckerberg? Donald Trump?

                Every time there has been a centralised authority running a social network, it has ended up in the hands of billionaires that support hatred.

                The idea of this place is to give the grassroots control of their social networks. If you would prefer social networks to be corporate, there are already plenty of corporate options.

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                • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

                  @FediTips

                  I'm not communicating with that server. I communicated with people I followed and who followed me.

                  Your privileged rationalisation of victimhood will age badly.

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                  #16

                  @charlesdelavalleepoussin

                  I'm not completely clear how an account being limited is victimhood?

                  What are you suggesting social networks should do instead, not limit accounts at all?

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                  • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

                    @footils @FediTips

                    ive heard from several people who have not been emailed a reason

                    (I too on previous servers had my account disabled completely with no reason and no response from the admin/owner, and also no reply for GDPR requests given they were based in the EU)

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                    #17

                    @FediTips

                    I should have looked at this profile before interacting with an antisemite. Bye.

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                    • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

                      @FediTips @footils

                      have you not noticed how un-diverse mastodon is?

                      have you not questioned why?

                      a bunch of self-regulating bros? what could possibly be wrong with that?

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                      #18

                      @charlesdelavalleepoussin @footils

                      The lack of diversity on here is a serious problem but it's not going to be solved by allowing everyone to post whatever they want without ever limiting or blocking anyone.

                      There needs to be MORE moderation on here, not less. People need to be protected from hatred, not exposed to it.

                      We need more tools like reply controls and automatic alerts for moderators when bad keywords are used.

                      No one should be seeing hatred in their feeds due to lax moderation.

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                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                        @charlesdelavalleepoussin @footils

                        The lack of diversity on here is a serious problem but it's not going to be solved by allowing everyone to post whatever they want without ever limiting or blocking anyone.

                        There needs to be MORE moderation on here, not less. People need to be protected from hatred, not exposed to it.

                        We need more tools like reply controls and automatic alerts for moderators when bad keywords are used.

                        No one should be seeing hatred in their feeds due to lax moderation.

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                        #19

                        @charlesdelavalleepoussin @footils

                        I follow a lot of people critical of the Fediverse on my personal account to keep tabs on how bad the problem is and what exactly is going wrong.

                        The main issue raised is too many purveyors of hatred being allowed to attack members of minorities. Allowing hate puts people off staying here, accounts posting hate need to be banned.

                        If you removed all limits on what accounts could say and do, it would make the situation much worse.

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