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  • danieldk@mastodon.socialD danieldk@mastodon.social

    @EUCommission sometimes repairing and improving longetivity also means being able to install your own software.

    It would be great if the EU could forbid locking boot loaders of general purpose computing devices like smart phones, tablets, and laptops.

    While we are at it, also require an alternative to Google/Apple remote attestation, so that we can still run our apps on repaired devices, or even better, European devices like Jolla's Sailfish OS phones.

    catha@masto.esC This user is from outside of this forum
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    catha@masto.es
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #29

    @danieldk @EUCommission
    There are already more alternatives for phones with alternative OS besides Jolla. Nothing for example.

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    • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

      Your phone breaks. Your washing machine gives up. Somehow, buying new seems cheaper than repairing.

      The EU is making the Right to Repair the new standard in Europe.

      ✅Repairs must be offered even after your warranty ends
      🔧Parts must be available after the model is no longer sold
      📅Choose repair under warranty and get an extra year of legal coverage
      📍An EU platform will help you find local repair shops and fair prices

      Less waste, more repairs. Good for your wallet, even better for the planet.

      grundeinkommenaberrichtig@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
      grundeinkommenaberrichtig@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
      grundeinkommenaberrichtig@mastodon.social
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #30

      @EUCommission why did you not take a washing machine as an exsample? please explain how it works? You clearly put an end to Washing machines under 300 Euro. Or will my friendly #DHL take it to the repair shop? You know that im home rpair already charge for just showing up? haha well, congratulations for choosing a phone as exsample, a laptop would already be near impossible (if you can use a calculator)

      #righttorepair

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      • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

        Your phone breaks. Your washing machine gives up. Somehow, buying new seems cheaper than repairing.

        The EU is making the Right to Repair the new standard in Europe.

        ✅Repairs must be offered even after your warranty ends
        🔧Parts must be available after the model is no longer sold
        📅Choose repair under warranty and get an extra year of legal coverage
        📍An EU platform will help you find local repair shops and fair prices

        Less waste, more repairs. Good for your wallet, even better for the planet.

        kaia@pleroma.soykaf.comK This user is from outside of this forum
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        kaia@pleroma.soykaf.com
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #31
        @EUCommission
        the AI-slopped graphic makes no sense.

        > Should I Toss My Broken Tech - Do I hate money - YES - A bit!
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        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

          Your phone breaks. Your washing machine gives up. Somehow, buying new seems cheaper than repairing.

          The EU is making the Right to Repair the new standard in Europe.

          ✅Repairs must be offered even after your warranty ends
          🔧Parts must be available after the model is no longer sold
          📅Choose repair under warranty and get an extra year of legal coverage
          📍An EU platform will help you find local repair shops and fair prices

          Less waste, more repairs. Good for your wallet, even better for the planet.

          grundeinkommenaberrichtig@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
          grundeinkommenaberrichtig@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
          grundeinkommenaberrichtig@mastodon.social
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #32

          @EUCommission now every company has a great reason to make your everyday electrical stuff really expensive

          "You know... we need more skilled stuff, a location to fix things, and we need to store 100000 spare parts, you don't want to wait for shipping, do you? "

          #righttorepair #prices #skills #poverty

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          • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

            Your phone breaks. Your washing machine gives up. Somehow, buying new seems cheaper than repairing.

            The EU is making the Right to Repair the new standard in Europe.

            ✅Repairs must be offered even after your warranty ends
            🔧Parts must be available after the model is no longer sold
            📅Choose repair under warranty and get an extra year of legal coverage
            📍An EU platform will help you find local repair shops and fair prices

            Less waste, more repairs. Good for your wallet, even better for the planet.

            sodiboo@gaysex.cloudS This user is from outside of this forum
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            sodiboo@gaysex.cloud
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #33

            @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu what the hell is this flowchart?

            let's say i hate money. then, it reads:

            should i toss my broken tech? a bit!

            ??? that's not the correct shaped answer to that question.

            "am I a billionaire" with no/maybe? billionaires don't care about right to repair; they can easily afford to get a new one . why are they even on this chart. what kind of answer is "maybe". and why is the option of going to a "cheap" repair shop under this non-negative answer to billionaire? do non-billionaires not get to go to a repair shop? do poor people have to repair it themselves, with their own personal expertise?

            also, the remaining two branches, while decent to demonstrate the intent here for how to reduce waste.... also are not shaped like "should i toss my broken tech?" . none of the answers are shaped like that.. the question should read more like "what to do with broken tech?" or just "my tech is broken". then, the "repair it"/"fix it" branches make sense.

            both of those branches make sense in isolation but together are strange because repairing something and fixing it is the same thing!!! those words are synonyms!!! the warranty branch should specify "manufacturer repairs it for free + 1 year of warranty" and the other branch should be "buy parts up to 10 years and repair it yourself". the "billionaire" question should say "do you have tech repair knowledge?" and the other branch should say "take it to a repair shop, who will buy the parts and fix it for you".

            some others have pointed this out, and i too will ask: is this AI-generated?? because this sure smells like slop. it is not very coherent.

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            • catha@masto.esC catha@masto.es

              @danieldk @EUCommission
              There are already more alternatives for phones with alternative OS besides Jolla. Nothing for example.

              danieldk@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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              #34

              @Catha @EUCommission Nothing phones use Google Android (with system-level Play Services, etc.). Some Nothing Phones have unlockable boot loaders though, like Fairphone and Google Pixel.

              However, if you install non-GMS Google Android, you are in for an increasing amount of pain, since more and more apps start using Google Play Integrity. E.g. some banks, the Volkswagen app, and ironically the EUDI Wallet reference implementation. Yes, you cannot use the EU wallet on a phone with an non-US OS!

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              • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                Your phone breaks. Your washing machine gives up. Somehow, buying new seems cheaper than repairing.

                The EU is making the Right to Repair the new standard in Europe.

                ✅Repairs must be offered even after your warranty ends
                🔧Parts must be available after the model is no longer sold
                📅Choose repair under warranty and get an extra year of legal coverage
                📍An EU platform will help you find local repair shops and fair prices

                Less waste, more repairs. Good for your wallet, even better for the planet.

                cmyrland@tutoteket.noC This user is from outside of this forum
                cmyrland@tutoteket.noC This user is from outside of this forum
                cmyrland@tutoteket.no
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #35

                @EUCommission very good, but did you really have to use genAI to make this post?

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                • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                  Your phone breaks. Your washing machine gives up. Somehow, buying new seems cheaper than repairing.

                  The EU is making the Right to Repair the new standard in Europe.

                  ✅Repairs must be offered even after your warranty ends
                  🔧Parts must be available after the model is no longer sold
                  📅Choose repair under warranty and get an extra year of legal coverage
                  📍An EU platform will help you find local repair shops and fair prices

                  Less waste, more repairs. Good for your wallet, even better for the planet.

                  redscare@snabelen.noR This user is from outside of this forum
                  redscare@snabelen.noR This user is from outside of this forum
                  redscare@snabelen.no
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #36

                  @EUCommission How about pouring 30B into this rather than pissing it away on AI bolllocks?

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                  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                    Your phone breaks. Your washing machine gives up. Somehow, buying new seems cheaper than repairing.

                    The EU is making the Right to Repair the new standard in Europe.

                    ✅Repairs must be offered even after your warranty ends
                    🔧Parts must be available after the model is no longer sold
                    📅Choose repair under warranty and get an extra year of legal coverage
                    📍An EU platform will help you find local repair shops and fair prices

                    Less waste, more repairs. Good for your wallet, even better for the planet.

                    netraven@hear-me.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
                    netraven@hear-me.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
                    netraven@hear-me.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #37

                    @EUCommission This has got to be a troll account.

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                    • sodiboo@gaysex.cloudS sodiboo@gaysex.cloud

                      @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu what the hell is this flowchart?

                      let's say i hate money. then, it reads:

                      should i toss my broken tech? a bit!

                      ??? that's not the correct shaped answer to that question.

                      "am I a billionaire" with no/maybe? billionaires don't care about right to repair; they can easily afford to get a new one . why are they even on this chart. what kind of answer is "maybe". and why is the option of going to a "cheap" repair shop under this non-negative answer to billionaire? do non-billionaires not get to go to a repair shop? do poor people have to repair it themselves, with their own personal expertise?

                      also, the remaining two branches, while decent to demonstrate the intent here for how to reduce waste.... also are not shaped like "should i toss my broken tech?" . none of the answers are shaped like that.. the question should read more like "what to do with broken tech?" or just "my tech is broken". then, the "repair it"/"fix it" branches make sense.

                      both of those branches make sense in isolation but together are strange because repairing something and fixing it is the same thing!!! those words are synonyms!!! the warranty branch should specify "manufacturer repairs it for free + 1 year of warranty" and the other branch should be "buy parts up to 10 years and repair it yourself". the "billionaire" question should say "do you have tech repair knowledge?" and the other branch should say "take it to a repair shop, who will buy the parts and fix it for you".

                      some others have pointed this out, and i too will ask: is this AI-generated?? because this sure smells like slop. it is not very coherent.

                      hsza@social.tudbut.deH This user is from outside of this forum
                      hsza@social.tudbut.deH This user is from outside of this forum
                      hsza@social.tudbut.de
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #38

                      @sodiboo @EUCommission remember europe is the “AI continent” so anything goes

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                      • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                        Your phone breaks. Your washing machine gives up. Somehow, buying new seems cheaper than repairing.

                        The EU is making the Right to Repair the new standard in Europe.

                        ✅Repairs must be offered even after your warranty ends
                        🔧Parts must be available after the model is no longer sold
                        📅Choose repair under warranty and get an extra year of legal coverage
                        📍An EU platform will help you find local repair shops and fair prices

                        Less waste, more repairs. Good for your wallet, even better for the planet.

                        the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #39

                        @EUCommission People shall be allowed to repair their stuff and show how to do so to public.

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                        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                          Your phone breaks. Your washing machine gives up. Somehow, buying new seems cheaper than repairing.

                          The EU is making the Right to Repair the new standard in Europe.

                          ✅Repairs must be offered even after your warranty ends
                          🔧Parts must be available after the model is no longer sold
                          📅Choose repair under warranty and get an extra year of legal coverage
                          📍An EU platform will help you find local repair shops and fair prices

                          Less waste, more repairs. Good for your wallet, even better for the planet.

                          grundeinkommenaberrichtig@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                          grundeinkommenaberrichtig@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                          grundeinkommenaberrichtig@mastodon.social
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #40

                          @EUCommission

                          Impoter: "I need spare parts for last years model!"

                          Chinese: "But it is YOU that always wants NEW design... so NO parts here!?!"

                          #righttorepair #China #EU #import #Wirtschaftswachstum #design

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                          • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

                            @sodiboo @EUCommission remember europe is the “AI continent” so anything goes

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                            #41

                            @hsza @sodiboo @EUCommission Flow charts will be so much better when the centrally planned and tax funded 🇪🇺 AI gIgAfAcToRiEs 🇪🇺 are up and running

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                            • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                              Your phone breaks. Your washing machine gives up. Somehow, buying new seems cheaper than repairing.

                              The EU is making the Right to Repair the new standard in Europe.

                              ✅Repairs must be offered even after your warranty ends
                              🔧Parts must be available after the model is no longer sold
                              📅Choose repair under warranty and get an extra year of legal coverage
                              📍An EU platform will help you find local repair shops and fair prices

                              Less waste, more repairs. Good for your wallet, even better for the planet.

                              hllizi@hespere.deH This user is from outside of this forum
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                              hllizi@hespere.de
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #42

                              @EUCommission how long until this is scrapped again due to German butt aches?

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                              • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                Your phone breaks. Your washing machine gives up. Somehow, buying new seems cheaper than repairing.

                                The EU is making the Right to Repair the new standard in Europe.

                                ✅Repairs must be offered even after your warranty ends
                                🔧Parts must be available after the model is no longer sold
                                📅Choose repair under warranty and get an extra year of legal coverage
                                📍An EU platform will help you find local repair shops and fair prices

                                Less waste, more repairs. Good for your wallet, even better for the planet.

                                sorro@woof.techS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #43

                                @EUCommission this is amazing!!!

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                                • w@mountains.socialW w@mountains.social

                                  @hsza @sodiboo @EUCommission Flow charts will be so much better when the centrally planned and tax funded 🇪🇺 AI gIgAfAcToRiEs 🇪🇺 are up and running

                                  hsza@social.tudbut.deH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  hsza@social.tudbut.de
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #44

                                  @w @sodiboo @EUCommission theyre dedicating an entire continent to enriching nvidia

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                                  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                    Your phone breaks. Your washing machine gives up. Somehow, buying new seems cheaper than repairing.

                                    The EU is making the Right to Repair the new standard in Europe.

                                    ✅Repairs must be offered even after your warranty ends
                                    🔧Parts must be available after the model is no longer sold
                                    📅Choose repair under warranty and get an extra year of legal coverage
                                    📍An EU platform will help you find local repair shops and fair prices

                                    Less waste, more repairs. Good for your wallet, even better for the planet.

                                    the_error@witter.czT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    the_error@witter.cz
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #45

                                    @EUCommission Maybe you could just rely on free market itself and instead of adding more mandatory obligations, just make possible create spare parts, service and allow to create whatever parts without need of license/approval to do so? A mandatory revealing schema after some time would be welcome too.

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                                    • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                      Your phone breaks. Your washing machine gives up. Somehow, buying new seems cheaper than repairing.

                                      The EU is making the Right to Repair the new standard in Europe.

                                      ✅Repairs must be offered even after your warranty ends
                                      🔧Parts must be available after the model is no longer sold
                                      📅Choose repair under warranty and get an extra year of legal coverage
                                      📍An EU platform will help you find local repair shops and fair prices

                                      Less waste, more repairs. Good for your wallet, even better for the planet.

                                      phl@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      phl@mastodon.social
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #46

                                      @EUCommission Finally a good idea from y'all.

                                      But what the crap is that slopware graphic that apparently nobody in your PR department read.

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                                      • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                        Your phone breaks. Your washing machine gives up. Somehow, buying new seems cheaper than repairing.

                                        The EU is making the Right to Repair the new standard in Europe.

                                        ✅Repairs must be offered even after your warranty ends
                                        🔧Parts must be available after the model is no longer sold
                                        📅Choose repair under warranty and get an extra year of legal coverage
                                        📍An EU platform will help you find local repair shops and fair prices

                                        Less waste, more repairs. Good for your wallet, even better for the planet.

                                        johan_e_m@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        johan_e_m@mastodon.social
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #47

                                        @EUCommission finally!!

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                                        • farooqkz@mastodon.bsd.cafeF farooqkz@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                          @EUCommission

                                          Moreover, you should think of something about phones and tablets with healthy hardware but outdated software. So many companies especially in China stop the software updates/upgrades after like 2-3 years. And moreover, they also make it too hard for the #FOSS communities to come up with alternative operating system for these devices.

                                          Some companies lock the device to prevent installing custom OS.

                                          Some other violate #GPL and they don't release the #Linux source code for their devices.

                                          Some release the GPL code with a 1 year delay. Which means FOSS community is 1 year behind to bring custom OS to the device.

                                          All of these contribute to #ewaste and they harm the planet. And many people are forced to buy a new phone/tablet every 1-3 years to get a newer Android version.

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                                          the_error@witter.cz
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #48

                                          @farooqkz @EUCommission yeah...unsupported devices should be stripped off any locking, both software or legal.

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