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Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

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  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

    Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

    No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

    But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

    Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

    So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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    #24

    @cstross
    I'm so excited that pedo musk is finally heading to Mars this year. He can use the epstein list as his exclusive passenger list.

    "SpaceX will start launching Starships to Mars in 2026, Elon Musk says"

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    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

      Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

      No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

      But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

      Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

      So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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      #25

      @cstross Investors don’t need to be gullible to buy SpaceX shares. They only need to believe that some gullible fools down the line will buy their shares at a higher price.

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      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

        Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

        No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

        But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

        Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

        So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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        #26

        The problem here is that both Elon and investors (as whole financial sector) is currently trapped in the myth of Eternal Growth. They are so trapped in this world where everything must grow, even growth must grow, that they don't see when they cross the barrier of telling themselves fairytales and having ideas that are physically impossible to realize. I'm not sure if this is gullibilty or if they really believe that the growth will never stop or maybe even fear because if they stop doing this, the REAL wold says "I call" and their world will fall apart...

        @cstross

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        • uilebheist@polyglot.cityU uilebheist@polyglot.city

          @cstross I wouldn't put it past him to actually believe his own bullshit though.
          He'd be "Yes, it breaks a law, big deal, we have lots of lawyers", without actually knowing that no, lawyers can't argue against physics.

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          #27

          @Uilebheist @cstross

          (Some) lawyers can (and will, if paid enough) argue against physics, but their chance of winning (other than the money you're paying them) is less than infinitesimal. (They're hoping they will be paid more than they get sanctioned for.)

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          • cadbury_moose@wandering.shopC cadbury_moose@wandering.shop

            @ASprinkleofSage @cstross

            Ratshit, then.

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            #28

            @Cadbury_Moose @cstross I mean, once it's rotted down, bullshit is actually useful. Not so sure about ratshit but possibly so. Maybe radioactive waste is more appropriate? it does ruin a good idiom though.

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            • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

              @dubiousblur Remember he owns massive battery factories. However, China more or less has a monopoly on PV panel manufacturing.

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              #29

              @cstross with outdated technology because they failed on the 4680 cells, and with now canceled supply contracts:

              https://electrek.co/2025/12/29/tesla-4680-battery-supply-chain-collapses-partner-writes-down-dea/

              Apparently they are using up surplus 4680s in model ys now:

              https://www.autoevolution.com/news/tesla-quietly-starts-building-model-y-with-its-controversial-4680-cells-again-264844.html

              @dubiousblur

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              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                #30

                @cstross Wild ideas ≠ prospectus

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                • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

                  @cstross @tony

                  Don't know about you but I have not stopped talking about him begging to go to pedo Island (and it seems being rejected the majority of the time)

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                  #31

                  @gbargoud @cstross @tony it takes a special kind of creepy to weird even Epstein out.

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                  • mkoek@mastodon.nlM mkoek@mastodon.nl

                    @kthy @cstross and that, infuriating as it is, works

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                    #32

                    @mkoek @kthy @cstross
                    Yep.

                    He fucks with Tesla investors the same way.

                    "Robo-taxis" anyone?
                    He first brought them up in 2016.

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                    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                      Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                      No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                      But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                      Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                      So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                      #33

                      @cstross won't Kessler Syndrome make space launch dead as a business long before that?

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                      • fedops@fosstodon.orgF fedops@fosstodon.org

                        @cstross with outdated technology because they failed on the 4680 cells, and with now canceled supply contracts:

                        https://electrek.co/2025/12/29/tesla-4680-battery-supply-chain-collapses-partner-writes-down-dea/

                        Apparently they are using up surplus 4680s in model ys now:

                        https://www.autoevolution.com/news/tesla-quietly-starts-building-model-y-with-its-controversial-4680-cells-again-264844.html

                        @dubiousblur

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                        #34

                        @fedops @cstross @dubiousblur That is interesting.

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                        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                          Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                          No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                          But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                          Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                          So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                          #35

                          @cstross thanks for pointing it out that clearly. I went through several articles yesterday to find out why the hell someone would think putting a data center in space would be beneficial.

                          And the only argument every journalist was citing besides "Sam Altman said it in a podcast" was 24/7 solar power, independent of weather. Which is not true for most lower orbits (earth's shadow), and still doesn't solve cooling, too little power, limited up/down link and maintenance problems.

                          So that it's just bullshit to sound futuristic to the dumbest of the dumbest makes a lot of sense.

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                          • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                            Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                            No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                            But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                            Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                            So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                            didthat1957@mastodon.social
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                            #36

                            @cstross
                            Elon is a nazi want a be his ties with trump and epstien is why these ppl are not to be supported

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                            • clintruin@mastodon.socialC clintruin@mastodon.social

                              @mkoek @kthy @cstross
                              Yep.

                              He fucks with Tesla investors the same way.

                              "Robo-taxis" anyone?
                              He first brought them up in 2016.

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                              #37

                              @clintruin @mkoek @cstross here's one of my favourite Wikipedia pages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_predictions_for_autonomous_Tesla_vehicles_by_Elon_Musk

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                              • kthy@helvede.netK kthy@helvede.net

                                @clintruin @mkoek @cstross here's one of my favourite Wikipedia pages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_predictions_for_autonomous_Tesla_vehicles_by_Elon_Musk

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                                #38

                                @kthy @mkoek @cstross
                                😂
                                Ex-act-ly.

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                                • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                  Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                  No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                  But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                  Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                  So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                                  #39

                                  @cstross Starlink might be the only thing one of his companies got right. I've been using one for a while now and it's a game changer when living somewhere remote. I wish we had a suitable EU competitor and not have to contribute to this man's lunacy...

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                                  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                    Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                    No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                    But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                    Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                    So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                                    #40

                                    @cstross Data centers on orbit is the stupidest idea ever.

                                    Perhaps even more stupid than letting a remote LLM control your personal computer 🤦‍♂️

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                                    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                      Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                      No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                      But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                      Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                      So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                                      #41

                                      @cstross

                                      Consider for a moment, though that the real money available to the stock market is with the very largest institutions and the wealthiest people basically Elon Musk‘s class.

                                      People with too much money and nothing else to do with it

                                      You can bet they will also manipulate the federal government into just handing them cash supposedly to do all this crazy stuff kinda like all the money that’s flooding into starship that completely ignores contracted objectives

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                                      • taschenorakel@mastodon.greenT taschenorakel@mastodon.green

                                        @cstross Just another reckless person collecting stupid money by selling them snake oil.

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                                        #42

                                        @taschenorakel
                                        Problem is, money is fungible.

                                        @cstross

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                                        • nmba@mstdn.caN nmba@mstdn.ca

                                          @cstross
                                          I'm so excited that pedo musk is finally heading to Mars this year. He can use the epstein list as his exclusive passenger list.

                                          "SpaceX will start launching Starships to Mars in 2026, Elon Musk says"

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                                          #43

                                          @NMBA @cstross

                                          Tell me he did not say this. It's like Elon's playing a game to see what he can get away with. Like a child might when testing boundaries. Oh wait, narcissists actually have the emotional maturity of a child...

                                          "SpaceX will start launching Starships to Mars in 2026, Elon Musk says"

                                          #narcissism #musk #spacex

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