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  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

    Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

    No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

    But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

    Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

    So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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    #30

    @cstross Wild ideas ≠ prospectus

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    • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

      @cstross @tony

      Don't know about you but I have not stopped talking about him begging to go to pedo Island (and it seems being rejected the majority of the time)

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      #31

      @gbargoud @cstross @tony it takes a special kind of creepy to weird even Epstein out.

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      • mkoek@mastodon.nlM mkoek@mastodon.nl

        @kthy @cstross and that, infuriating as it is, works

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        #32

        @mkoek @kthy @cstross
        Yep.

        He fucks with Tesla investors the same way.

        "Robo-taxis" anyone?
        He first brought them up in 2016.

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        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

          Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

          No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

          But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

          Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

          So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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          fazalmajid@social.vivaldi.net
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          #33

          @cstross won't Kessler Syndrome make space launch dead as a business long before that?

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          • fedops@fosstodon.orgF fedops@fosstodon.org

            @cstross with outdated technology because they failed on the 4680 cells, and with now canceled supply contracts:

            https://electrek.co/2025/12/29/tesla-4680-battery-supply-chain-collapses-partner-writes-down-dea/

            Apparently they are using up surplus 4680s in model ys now:

            https://www.autoevolution.com/news/tesla-quietly-starts-building-model-y-with-its-controversial-4680-cells-again-264844.html

            @dubiousblur

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            #34

            @fedops @cstross @dubiousblur That is interesting.

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            • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

              Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

              No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

              But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

              Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

              So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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              #35

              @cstross thanks for pointing it out that clearly. I went through several articles yesterday to find out why the hell someone would think putting a data center in space would be beneficial.

              And the only argument every journalist was citing besides "Sam Altman said it in a podcast" was 24/7 solar power, independent of weather. Which is not true for most lower orbits (earth's shadow), and still doesn't solve cooling, too little power, limited up/down link and maintenance problems.

              So that it's just bullshit to sound futuristic to the dumbest of the dumbest makes a lot of sense.

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              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                didthat1957@mastodon.social
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                #36

                @cstross
                Elon is a nazi want a be his ties with trump and epstien is why these ppl are not to be supported

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                • clintruin@mastodon.socialC clintruin@mastodon.social

                  @mkoek @kthy @cstross
                  Yep.

                  He fucks with Tesla investors the same way.

                  "Robo-taxis" anyone?
                  He first brought them up in 2016.

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                  #37

                  @clintruin @mkoek @cstross here's one of my favourite Wikipedia pages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_predictions_for_autonomous_Tesla_vehicles_by_Elon_Musk

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                  • kthy@helvede.netK kthy@helvede.net

                    @clintruin @mkoek @cstross here's one of my favourite Wikipedia pages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_predictions_for_autonomous_Tesla_vehicles_by_Elon_Musk

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                    #38

                    @kthy @mkoek @cstross
                    😂
                    Ex-act-ly.

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                    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                      Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                      No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                      But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                      Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                      So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

                      lucien@toot.communityL This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #39

                      @cstross Starlink might be the only thing one of his companies got right. I've been using one for a while now and it's a game changer when living somewhere remote. I wish we had a suitable EU competitor and not have to contribute to this man's lunacy...

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                      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                        Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                        No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                        But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                        Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                        So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                        gimulnautti@mastodon.green
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                        #40

                        @cstross Data centers on orbit is the stupidest idea ever.

                        Perhaps even more stupid than letting a remote LLM control your personal computer 🤦‍♂️

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                        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                          Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                          No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                          But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                          Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                          So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                          #41

                          @cstross

                          Consider for a moment, though that the real money available to the stock market is with the very largest institutions and the wealthiest people basically Elon Musk‘s class.

                          People with too much money and nothing else to do with it

                          You can bet they will also manipulate the federal government into just handing them cash supposedly to do all this crazy stuff kinda like all the money that’s flooding into starship that completely ignores contracted objectives

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                          • taschenorakel@mastodon.greenT taschenorakel@mastodon.green

                            @cstross Just another reckless person collecting stupid money by selling them snake oil.

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                            softwaretheron@mas.to
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                            #42

                            @taschenorakel
                            Problem is, money is fungible.

                            @cstross

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                            • nmba@mstdn.caN nmba@mstdn.ca

                              @cstross
                              I'm so excited that pedo musk is finally heading to Mars this year. He can use the epstein list as his exclusive passenger list.

                              "SpaceX will start launching Starships to Mars in 2026, Elon Musk says"

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                              #43

                              @NMBA @cstross

                              Tell me he did not say this. It's like Elon's playing a game to see what he can get away with. Like a child might when testing boundaries. Oh wait, narcissists actually have the emotional maturity of a child...

                              "SpaceX will start launching Starships to Mars in 2026, Elon Musk says"

                              #narcissism #musk #spacex

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                              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                                cresssalad@mastodon.social
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                                #44

                                @cstross Totally agree, also just imagine the many scenarios that will eventually hit constellations like this - e.g. the company goes out of business or they lose device control, organisation gets a viral or c&c trojan, systems operational issues (like bad patch rollout) for example

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                                • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                  Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                  No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                  But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                  Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                  So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                                  #45

                                  @cstross Did he read Singularity Sky and feel he could make that future happen with more computers everywhere?

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                                  • fazalmajid@social.vivaldi.netF fazalmajid@social.vivaldi.net

                                    @gbargoud @cstross @tony it takes a special kind of creepy to weird even Epstein out.

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                                    #46

                                    @fazalmajid Well, that, probably, but also "power broker".

                                    The Epstein files function to identify the de facto real power structure. (As he saw it, but considering how long he kept what running, he can't have been too far off.)

                                    (It also identifies the help and the wannabes.)

                                    @gbargoud @cstross @tony

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                                    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                      Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                      No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                      But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                      Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                      So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                                      #47

                                      @cstross But it's great hype for AI bros and TESCREAL cretins.

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                                      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                        Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                        No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                        But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                        Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                        So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                                        #48

                                        @cstross isn't Starship becoming less and less useful as they keep 'iterating' it's development?

                                        That giant cargo capacity keeps on dropping.

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                                        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                          Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                          No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                          But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                          Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                          So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                                          #49

                                          Here's a fine blog about what appears to be Musk's latest SpaceX hoax by an actual physics and astronomy professor:

                                          https://www.physicsmatt.com/blog/2025/12/11/the-dumbest-thing-ive-seen-this-week

                                          »The only reason to launch a shitload of GPUs into orbit is to say you did it, because they sure as hell aren’t going to add meaningful capacity to the datacenters on Earth, will cost far more, and would have short usable lifespans. […] So why are a bunch of techbros and their pet journalists hyping this?«

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