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  3. I appear to be waging a one-woman ’See Something, Say Something’ campaign where I write to companies to register my displeasure when they use AI to enshittify customer service.

I appear to be waging a one-woman ’See Something, Say Something’ campaign where I write to companies to register my displeasure when they use AI to enshittify customer service.

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  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

    @kimlockhartga @Nead @RealGene Haha, agreed - this is a great and beautifully human business model.

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    #69

    @CiaraNi @kimlockhartga @RealGene You get 15% off of your first order for that! I'll DM you a QR code.

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    • kimlockhartga@beige.partyK kimlockhartga@beige.party

      @CiaraNi @RegGuy Also, my pharmacy wants me to open their app and get a scan code ready for them when I pick up my meds. Or enter my name and dob on a screen. When did all the work fall to us? I guess young people like it, but I (gasp!) don't even bring my phone with me all the time.

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      #70

      @kimlockhartga @CiaraNi @RegGuy my husband doesn't have a smart phone. Old people are being left behind

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      • tattooed_mummy@beige.partyT tattooed_mummy@beige.party

        @kimlockhartga @CiaraNi @RegGuy my husband doesn't have a smart phone. Old people are being left behind

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        #71

        @Tattooed_Mummy @CiaraNi @RegGuy absolutely. How do they expect older folks to participate?

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        • nead@social.vivaldi.netN nead@social.vivaldi.net

          @CiaraNi @kimlockhartga @RealGene You get 15% off of your first order for that! I'll DM you a QR code.

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          #72

          @Nead @CiaraNi @RealGene 😂

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          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

            I appear to be waging a one-woman ’See Something, Say Something’ campaign where I write to companies to register my displeasure when they use AI to enshittify customer service. And when their app is only available to Google & Apple customers. Their AI wastes my time with useless ’customer service’. I take time to word constructive customer feedback. Their AI reads it. I spend time reading a useless AI reply. AI increases productivity my bollix. What a waste of human time.

            #OldWomanYellsAtCloud

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            #73

            @CiaraNi Here's my contribution for the day.

            #OldManYellsAtCloud

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            • kimlockhartga@beige.partyK kimlockhartga@beige.party

              @Tattooed_Mummy @CiaraNi @RegGuy absolutely. How do they expect older folks to participate?

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              #74

              @kimlockhartga @Tattooed_Mummy @CiaraNi @RegGuy I'm in my 40s and whilst I am comfortable with technology... there are somethings that require a human and one that can speak your language (not an overseas call centre!).

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              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                Customer service staff must be hit doubly hard by enshittification and AI. Companies use AI in a bid to replace their jobs. The AI is useless and wastes time, so even a placid customer with a benign query will become frustrated and fed-up as they try to battle their way through to a human who can actually help. Customer service was hard enough in advance. It must be harder still these days, when AI has made even the pleasant customers cross before they get through to the human.

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                #75

                @CiaraNi Bingo!

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                • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                  This grumpy thought is brought to you by the fact that I have 3 mails to write after abysmal AI customer experiences this week. On the plus side though, I had a quick & good experience with hands-on human help at my insurance company. I didn’t even have to battle through a phone tree or ’we have a website!' messages to speak to the human in the first place. I want to say something when I see something good, too. To compliment their corporate choices. So I will write a mail of praise to them too.

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                  #76

                  @CiaraNi another cool thing you could do is to give a shout out to your insurance company over here so that other people know that it's a good company to work with.

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                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                    Customer service staff must be hit doubly hard by enshittification and AI. Companies use AI in a bid to replace their jobs. The AI is useless and wastes time, so even a placid customer with a benign query will become frustrated and fed-up as they try to battle their way through to a human who can actually help. Customer service was hard enough in advance. It must be harder still these days, when AI has made even the pleasant customers cross before they get through to the human.

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                    #77

                    @CiaraNi I have done the same things you do, though I am not very systematic about it. But I do enjoy calling the customer service number for a business after having a particularly positive experience, telling a human in detail what impressed me so much, and thanking them. Recently, a person I spoke with told me they had never before received a phone call from a happy customer. My call seemed to make them quite happy.

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                    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                      @virtuosew Reward the good behaviour - yes. The enshittification has become so bad and so all-encompassing that I really notice the good behaviour these days. Even though it's really just what used to be considered normal behaviour. Like a human member of staff answering the phone and dealing with a specific customer question in a quick and friendly way. I want to let them know that this is great, that this is what customers (well, this customer, at least) want. That it's a sales parameter.

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                      #78

                      @CiaraNi I've been doubling down on the the positive reinforcement feedback over the last few years.

                      Goodness only knows if it does anything at the corporate level, but at least the CS person knows someone appreciates them.

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                      • missmelanieh@mastodonapp.ukM missmelanieh@mastodonapp.uk

                        @kimlockhartga @Tattooed_Mummy @CiaraNi @RegGuy I'm in my 40s and whilst I am comfortable with technology... there are somethings that require a human and one that can speak your language (not an overseas call centre!).

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                        #79

                        @missmelanieh @kimlockhartga @Tattooed_Mummy @CiaraNi I ran tech support the final 15 years of my tech career. My favorite tech support call came the day before Thanksgiving. We had a small tech call team, and under 100 big customers. So we knew all of them. Sandy calls the support line, I gave the team off, so I answer it. She says "Joe, why are you answering? Is Jess there?" I explained I gave her time off. Sandy need help with her turkey and Jess had been helping her. I assured her that 1/2

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                        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                          Customer service staff must be hit doubly hard by enshittification and AI. Companies use AI in a bid to replace their jobs. The AI is useless and wastes time, so even a placid customer with a benign query will become frustrated and fed-up as they try to battle their way through to a human who can actually help. Customer service was hard enough in advance. It must be harder still these days, when AI has made even the pleasant customers cross before they get through to the human.

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                          #80

                          @CiaraNi customers also complain with AI which often hallucinating laws or rights causing further frustration and wasted time for both parties

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                          • jab01701mid@mastodon.socialJ jab01701mid@mastodon.social

                            @CiaraNi Here's my contribution for the day.

                            #OldManYellsAtCloud

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                            #81

                            @CiaraNi This whole problem would be solved if the acronym at issue was "ASS" instead of "AI".

                            "AI" as an acronym is wrong on both counts. It's not Artificial, it's real. And it's not Intelligence, it's a fucking database with a good search engine and SQL, and a warehouse full of GPUs.

                            Authoritarian Search System == ASS

                            Don't use ASS.

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                            • regguy@mstdn.socialR regguy@mstdn.social

                              @missmelanieh @kimlockhartga @Tattooed_Mummy @CiaraNi I ran tech support the final 15 years of my tech career. My favorite tech support call came the day before Thanksgiving. We had a small tech call team, and under 100 big customers. So we knew all of them. Sandy calls the support line, I gave the team off, so I answer it. She says "Joe, why are you answering? Is Jess there?" I explained I gave her time off. Sandy need help with her turkey and Jess had been helping her. I assured her that 1/2

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                              #82

                              @missmelanieh @kimlockhartga @Tattooed_Mummy @CiaraNi

                              I could also help, as I was a wiz at baking turkeys. We got her settled down with Jess' recipe and I helped explain the steps. We heard back later that Sandy had success and Thanksgiving dinner went off without a hitch for her.

                              Take that AI!

                              2/2

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                              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                Customer service staff must be hit doubly hard by enshittification and AI. Companies use AI in a bid to replace their jobs. The AI is useless and wastes time, so even a placid customer with a benign query will become frustrated and fed-up as they try to battle their way through to a human who can actually help. Customer service was hard enough in advance. It must be harder still these days, when AI has made even the pleasant customers cross before they get through to the human.

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                                #83

                                @CiaraNi @bluegreenandfree Think of the shareholders though. <sarcasm>

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                                • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                  Customer service staff must be hit doubly hard by enshittification and AI. Companies use AI in a bid to replace their jobs. The AI is useless and wastes time, so even a placid customer with a benign query will become frustrated and fed-up as they try to battle their way through to a human who can actually help. Customer service was hard enough in advance. It must be harder still these days, when AI has made even the pleasant customers cross before they get through to the human.

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                                  #84

                                  @CiaraNi What kills me is the loss of confidence. I can never be 100% certain the answers I get are correct. Yes, I know humans make mistakes too but humans will always agree to double check with a colleague or supervisor when you ask.

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                                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                    Customer service staff must be hit doubly hard by enshittification and AI. Companies use AI in a bid to replace their jobs. The AI is useless and wastes time, so even a placid customer with a benign query will become frustrated and fed-up as they try to battle their way through to a human who can actually help. Customer service was hard enough in advance. It must be harder still these days, when AI has made even the pleasant customers cross before they get through to the human.

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                                    #85

                                    @CiaraNi No, seriously - research has shown repeatedly that customers who have a complaint & feel acknowledged by customer service are significantly more likely to shop again, *even if their problem wasn't solved!*

                                    In other words, having bad customer service was already counterproductive to business & they're just making it so much worse with AI .

                                    And yet despite this kind of idiocy, people are still taught at business school that business rationally optimizes itself for profit & growth...

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                                    • mmiasma@mastodon.sdf.orgM mmiasma@mastodon.sdf.org

                                      @CiaraNi @kimlockhartga @RegGuy

                                      Opensource and attribution-free. Use where appropriate. 😆

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                                      #86

                                      @mmiasma @kimlockhartga @RegGuy Ha - thanks, I will definitely be using it 🙂

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                                      • nead@social.vivaldi.netN nead@social.vivaldi.net

                                        @CiaraNi @kimlockhartga @RealGene You get 15% off of your first order for that! I'll DM you a QR code.

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                                        #87

                                        @Nead @kimlockhartga @RealGene Excellent! I am planning what to order already 🙂

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                                        • tattooed_mummy@beige.partyT tattooed_mummy@beige.party

                                          @kimlockhartga @CiaraNi @RegGuy my husband doesn't have a smart phone. Old people are being left behind

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                                          #88

                                          @Tattooed_Mummy @kimlockhartga @RegGuy Yes. An important point. Many people being excluded. Older people. People with cognitive impairment through illness or stress. Young people who don't want or haven't been allowed have a smartphone. Anyone whose phone is broken, or lost, or was forgotten at home. So much exclusion from standard civic and social and health services.

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