20,000 mail accounts.
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@barbra @Li @anneroth @cavallette If A/I had tried this sort of thing, the Internet providers would've refused to keep them as clients.
Also, your "free" 10 TB of storage at home isn't free for folks who need to buy their disks and replacements when they fail, pay their electricity bills, account for their additional time managing their home server, etc.
@barbra @Li @anneroth @cavallette Moreover, the A/I statement about shutting down didn't say they were out of technical options to keep services up. It said that A/I keeping things up would make their clients the next targets. None of the technical approaches you are bringing up would address that problem.
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@barbra @Li @anneroth @cavallette Moreover, the A/I statement about shutting down didn't say they were out of technical options to keep services up. It said that A/I keeping things up would make their clients the next targets. None of the technical approaches you are bringing up would address that problem.
@david42 @barbra @anneroth @cavallette this very much feels like a 'technical solutions to a social problem' situation..
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@david42 @barbra @anneroth @cavallette this very much feels like a 'technical solutions to a social problem' situation..
@Li @david42 @barbra @anneroth @cavallette
It said that A/I keeping things up would make their clients the next targets.
if so then what would be so wrong with simply making that clear so people can include it in their threat models. this is not a valid reason to shut everything down, and likely indeed not their actual reason
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@Li @cavallette @david42 @barbra @anneroth that sounds at least a little like cowardice if it’s a foreign state with no actual jurisdiction where you are
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@Li @cavallette @david42 @barbra @anneroth we should not blame the victims yes but letting them scare you and obeying in advance is doing their job for them which is always disappointing to see
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@Li @cavallette @david42 @barbra @anneroth yeah, but isnt this conversation operating under the assumption they could, yknow, resist the pressure, and that that is the right thing to do
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@Li @cavallette @david42 @barbra @anneroth yeah, but isnt this conversation operating under the assumption they could, yknow, resist the pressure, and that that is the right thing to do
@hsza @cavallette @david42 @barbra @anneroth i dont disagree that its the right or better thing to do, and support them if they did do that and such but i also understand if they dont want to put themselves at risk, shit is fucking hard,
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@hsza @cavallette @david42 @barbra @anneroth i dont disagree that its the right or better thing to do, and support them if they did do that and such but i also understand if they dont want to put themselves at risk, shit is fucking hard,
@Li @cavallette @david42 @barbra @anneroth tis just one of the most easy ways to piss me off: giving fascists what they want without actually being forced to. people obeying in advance is the backbone of any fascist power structure. fascism would not be a thing without it
granted we do not know what it was in this case because the blog post says borderline nothing
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@Li @cavallette @david42 @barbra @anneroth tis just one of the most easy ways to piss me off: giving fascists what they want without actually being forced to. people obeying in advance is the backbone of any fascist power structure. fascism would not be a thing without it
granted we do not know what it was in this case because the blog post says borderline nothing
@hsza @cavallette @david42 @barbra @anneroth id say thats the basis of all the power structures, they all expect you not to actually resist, making it easy to "deal to" the few who do resist, bonus points if you can equate "resisting the government" with "bad immoral action" or whatever
uh.. anyway, the threat is real regardless so.,,
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@Li @cavallette @david42 @barbra @anneroth tis just one of the most easy ways to piss me off: giving fascists what they want without actually being forced to. people obeying in advance is the backbone of any fascist power structure. fascism would not be a thing without it
granted we do not know what it was in this case because the blog post says borderline nothing
@hsza @cavallette @david42 @barbra @anneroth anyway try being pissed off at the fascist in this case instead :3
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20,000 mail accounts.
20,000 blogs.
5,000 mailing lists.
1,500 websites.In Europe.
Run by volunteers of @cavallette, perfectly legal, and decidedly antifascist, feminist, queer.
Destroyed and shut down by Trump's administration, extra legally.
It is astonishingly quiet.
#Autistici
@anneroth
Dutch newspaper @nrc_nl had a couple of stories on it, written by @Marloezovic . But yeah, it's the exception.
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20,000 mail accounts.
20,000 blogs.
5,000 mailing lists.
1,500 websites.In Europe.
Run by volunteers of @cavallette, perfectly legal, and decidedly antifascist, feminist, queer.
Destroyed and shut down by Trump's administration, extra legally.
It is astonishingly quiet.
#Autistici
@anneroth @cavallette In Dutch, but no pay wall. This is a podcast we published today: Ik luister naar 'Zo bepalen de VS wie online mag bestaan – ook in Europa' (NRC Vandaag) in de NRC Audio app: https://audio.nrc.nl/episode/181338194?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrc.nl%2Fnieuws%2F2026%2F09%2F08%2Fzo-bepalen-de-vs-wie-online-mag-bestaan-ook-in-europa-a4936115
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What happened? I don't see any articles on this. Did they just lose funding (and if so, why where they funded by the US if they were in the EU anyway?) or did something else happen? You have an article?
@djsumdog @cavallette @anneroth I also struggled to find detailed reporting but it seems they may have been removed from top level DNS?
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20,000 mail accounts.
20,000 blogs.
5,000 mailing lists.
1,500 websites.In Europe.
Run by volunteers of @cavallette, perfectly legal, and decidedly antifascist, feminist, queer.
Destroyed and shut down by Trump's administration, extra legally.
It is astonishingly quiet.
#Autistici
@anneroth @cavallette Tell me more.
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@anneroth @cavallette In Dutch, but no pay wall. This is a podcast we published today: Ik luister naar 'Zo bepalen de VS wie online mag bestaan – ook in Europa' (NRC Vandaag) in de NRC Audio app: https://audio.nrc.nl/episode/181338194?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrc.nl%2Fnieuws%2F2026%2F09%2F08%2Fzo-bepalen-de-vs-wie-online-mag-bestaan-ook-in-europa-a4936115
@Marloezovic Thanks! I'm afraid my Dutch won't be quite good enough
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@Marloezovic Thanks! I'm afraid my Dutch won't be quite good enough
(and the website does ask for a subscriber login). But great you're following up!@anneroth @cavallette I wasn't aware of the login, but it's also on all other platforms
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@anneroth @cavallette In Dutch, but no pay wall. This is a podcast we published today: Ik luister naar 'Zo bepalen de VS wie online mag bestaan – ook in Europa' (NRC Vandaag) in de NRC Audio app: https://audio.nrc.nl/episode/181338194?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrc.nl%2Fnieuws%2F2026%2F09%2F08%2Fzo-bepalen-de-vs-wie-online-mag-bestaan-ook-in-europa-a4936115
@Marloezovic @anneroth @cavallette Ik zou het graag willen luisteren maar op de NRC moet je wel een abonnement hebben.
Maar het blijkt wel hier toegangelijk te zijn. Al met een minute reklames in het begin van de podcast.
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@anneroth
Dutch newspaper @nrc_nl had a couple of stories on it, written by @Marloezovic . But yeah, it's the exception.
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@barbra @david42 @anneroth @cavallette Or get your money out of American banks, stop doing business with American companies, elect governments that refuse to take orders from American autocrats. The US is losing to a penny ante dictatorship in Iran,they can’t begin to cope with the rest of the world saying no.
@su_liam @barbra @david42 @anneroth @cavallette How do you get your money out of an American bank when you do not know that you are banking with an American bank?
Or how do you know that your payment systems will be blocked as they, at some point travel through US payment services space?
Your banking app that relies on Android verification services has stopped working as your Google account has been cancelled?
Want to take some cash out of a cash machine? With a VISA or Mastercard card?
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@barbra @david42 @anneroth @cavallette Or get your money out of American banks, stop doing business with American companies, elect governments that refuse to take orders from American autocrats. The US is losing to a penny ante dictatorship in Iran,they can’t begin to cope with the rest of the world saying no.
@su_liam @barbra @david42 @anneroth @cavallette "The US is losing to a penny ante dictatorship in Iran,they can’t begin to cope with the rest of the world saying no."
But in the mean time they could pull the plugs on most European citizens' internet access and payment systems.
A continent unable to pay for any of the goods and services that they need on a daily basis.
NOT because they don't have the money but because the US has trashed the infrastructure.
Without firing a single missile.
