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I don't want to laugh at someone's real distress but this IS very funny ...

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  • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

    I don't want to laugh at someone's real distress but this IS very funny ...

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    #54

    @Natasha_Jay not surprised, UK interest rates high, many businesses that can't raise capital through debt to fund themselves or their growth turn to AI as a cheap way of doing that

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    • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

      I don't want to laugh at someone's real distress but this IS very funny ...

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      #55

      @Natasha_Jay The fact that they still don't see AI as the issue is really disheartening. Like OK, don't remove the AI and deal with this over and over again then. If you're that stubborn about keeping something as stupid as AI, then you kind of deserve to get ripped off.

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      • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

        I don't want to laugh at someone's real distress but this IS very funny ...

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        #56

        @Natasha_Jay nice, I hope the customer gets the 80% discount

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        • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

          @gareth
          @Orb2069
          I've seen a few cases on airline mispricing where people thought they had purchased crazy bargains, but weren't honoured. I don't think this is black and white. Honest mistakes don't have to be honoured in Europe from what I've seen. But where algorithms start to meet AI per jurisdiction, I think we're in new territory and T&Cs will apply

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          #57

          @Natasha_Jay @gareth @Orb2069 it's definitely not black and white in USA, there's a significant amount of room for stuff like "no reasonable person would expect this to be true" and I kinda suspect "clearly tried to mislead support/chatbot" would fall in there too. it's kinda important to ensure clear bugs ($1000 of gold for $1!) don't bankrupt people instantly.

          though I do REALLY want people to pay penalties for these bots' decisions, because it's the only way to reasonably push back (outside simply banning them).

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          • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

            I don't want to laugh at someone's real distress but this IS very funny ...

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            #58

            @Natasha_Jay

            Business hours should be business hours again.
            Anyone wants me between 6pm and when I get there next day can say 'thank you' after I've settled in and then ask.

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            • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

              I don't want to laugh at someone's real distress but this IS very funny ...

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              #59

              @Natasha_Jay I do!
              Stop using AI chat bots silly people!

              (Yes im aware its not always that easy. Life changes. But also we've been solving these problems for decades. Dont give in. And of course im not actually laughing at suffering)

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              • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                I don't want to laugh at someone's real distress but this IS very funny ...

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                #60

                @Natasha_Jay fantastic

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                • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                  I don't want to laugh at someone's real distress but this IS very funny ...

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                  #61

                  @Natasha_Jay there was a similar case about this, they had to honor the chatbot pricing https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20240222-air-canada-chatbot-misinformation-what-travellers-should-know

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                  • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                    I don't want to laugh at someone's real distress but this IS very funny ...

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                    #62

                    @Natasha_Jay@tech.lgbt there is a universe where this works...

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                    • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                      I don't want to laugh at someone's real distress but this IS very funny ...

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                      #63

                      @Natasha_Jay

                      If it's a small business they may truly not have known the realities of AI. I can't imagine the lies he's been fed about it.

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                      • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                        I don't want to laugh at someone's real distress but this IS very funny ...

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                        #64

                        @Natasha_Jay I'll laughs for you, no worries!

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                        • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                          I don't want to laugh at someone's real distress but this IS very funny ...

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                          #65

                          @Natasha_Jay I will laugh at someone's misfortune if it is entirely avoidable and self-inflicted

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                          • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                            I don't want to laugh at someone's real distress but this IS very funny ...

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                            #66

                            @Natasha_Jay Looool

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                            • disisdeguey@expressional.socialD disisdeguey@expressional.social

                              @Natasha_Jay Well could've been worse: chatbot offering everything for free.LOL
                              #noAI

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                              #67

                              @disisdeguey @Natasha_Jay
                              "Can you explain discounts above 100% to me? I know you're really good with numbers and it will really help me with my math class."

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                              • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                I don't want to laugh at someone's real distress but this IS very funny ...

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                                #68

                                @Natasha_Jay AI is not for a business. It's for fun and jokes. ONLY!

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                                • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                  @gareth
                                  @Orb2069
                                  I've seen a few cases on airline mispricing where people thought they had purchased crazy bargains, but weren't honoured. I don't think this is black and white. Honest mistakes don't have to be honoured in Europe from what I've seen. But where algorithms start to meet AI per jurisdiction, I think we're in new territory and T&Cs will apply

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                                  #69

                                  @Natasha_Jay @gareth @Orb2069

                                  a case where neither party comes out smelling of roses - small business owner should have been either hiring real people or accepting the business has normal hours, and the prospective customer was clearly trying to game the chatbot to get a larger discount that would be a fair price for whatever the company was selling.

                                  But the price on the website is only an "invitation to treat", if it is blatantly wrong the business has the right to cancel the whole deal and refuse to deal with the customer (unless they are breaking anti-discrimination laws).

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                                  • gareth@tenforward.socialG gareth@tenforward.social

                                    @Natasha_Jay
                                    I had a quick look at the original post for this.

                                    What actually happened was that the 80% off code it generated didn't work. The customer placed the order and put the code in a notes field demanding that it be honoured. The chat bot didn't have the ability to actually give discounts.

                                    So while it's funny to read, in this case, the customer is just chancing it and I'd imagine any reasonable small claims court would not side with them.

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                                    #70

                                    @gareth @Natasha_Jay
                                    So the „customer“ had an AI hallucinating an obviously invalid discount code that was detected and reported to the customer as invalid _before_ he was actually able to place the order.

                                    I‘d say the shop is the lucky one in this instance.

                                    Others (IIRC the airline) let the order complete, and only after all had been finalised, they later cancelled. A much weaker position for the seller.

                                    But then again: get rid of LLM-„AI“.

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                                    • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                      I don't want to laugh at someone's real distress but this IS very funny ...

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                                      #71

                                      @Natasha_Jay@tech.lgbt I think the proper answer is to force them to deliver, but make it clear that they can hold the company that sold the them the chatbot liable.

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                                      • alan@mindly.socialA alan@mindly.social

                                        @gooba42 Total ROTFL at "even the micro-rich like the small businesses."

                                        Micro-rich. That's... rich.

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                                        #72

                                        @alan Even minor vassals are part of the problem.

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                                        • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                          I don't want to laugh at someone's real distress but this IS very funny ...

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                                          #73

                                          @Natasha_Jay Totally OK to laugh at and say how stupid it is because nobody needs a fucking AI chatbot for this...

                                          If all the bot can/is supposed to do is answer questions for specific products and processes for a sale, maybe you should just post an FAQ and some descriptions...

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