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  3. Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.”

Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.”

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  • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

    Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

    pip@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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    #41

    @eff Whose side are you on? Fuck off!

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    • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

      Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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      #42

      @eff boooooooooooooo

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      • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

        Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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        #43

        @eff bad take.

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        • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

          Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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          #44

          @eff I disagree. To my mind, 'transformative' requires human intent.

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          • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

            Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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            #45

            @eff I guess this is what burning all the bridges looks like

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            • big_blue_gnu@mastodon.socialB big_blue_gnu@mastodon.social

              @eff The irony here is that this is the same EFF that has worked to liberalize copyright law, this lawsuit being no different. Unpopular as AI training may be, I am a bit surprised to see the pushback to the EFF's actions (which honestly looks like a coordinated, corporate-backed effort to shore up support for copyright maximalism), but I get why taking a principled stand is unpopular since it necessarily entails defending unpopular positions occasionally. Even Techdirt defends the practice.

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              #46

              @Big_Blue_Gnu @eff lol

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              • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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                #47

                @eff no longer proud to wear the t-shirt

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                • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                  Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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                  #48

                  @eff Bye Felicia.

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                  • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                    Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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                    #49

                    @eff This is pathetic.

                    Way to condone the wholesale theft of creative works.

                    Everything you say from now on is suspect.

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                    • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                      Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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                      #50

                      @eff excuse me? That’s theft, not creativity.

                      You just lost every reason to exist. Go disband.

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                      • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                        Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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                        #51

                        @eff This is exactly the kind of creation copyright exits to protect from. Fuck off.

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                        • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                          Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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                          #52

                          @eff fuck 'tech progress', it's.progressed enough.

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                          • big_blue_gnu@mastodon.socialB big_blue_gnu@mastodon.social

                            @eff The irony here is that this is the same EFF that has worked to liberalize copyright law, this lawsuit being no different. Unpopular as AI training may be, I am a bit surprised to see the pushback to the EFF's actions (which honestly looks like a coordinated, corporate-backed effort to shore up support for copyright maximalism), but I get why taking a principled stand is unpopular since it necessarily entails defending unpopular positions occasionally. Even Techdirt defends the practice.

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                            #53

                            @Big_Blue_Gnu @eff it has not even to do with copyright maximalism, “AI” is a deeply fascist technology and has a multitude of problems, on different axes, that, each alone, are already an absolute reason for it to need to be destroyed.

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                            • uraniumnutt@mastodon.socialU uraniumnutt@mastodon.social

                              @eff Much like how my tummy 'transforms' corn into a corn interspersed turd.

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                              #54

                              @UraniumNutt @eff and, tbh, hampering tech would be a good thing at this time.

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                              • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                                Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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                                #55

                                @eff Like #ACLU I dont always agree with #EFF. But your argument is extremely harmful to creators. As a loooong time donor and supporter, I am very disappointed in your tech bro advocacy here.

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                                • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                                  Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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                                  #56

                                  @eff can we not with the excuses for the Nazi Child Porn machines?

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                                  • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                                    Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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                                    #57

                                    @eff What the EFF?

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                                    • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                                      Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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                                      #58

                                      @eff Are you sure this is the venue you wish to announce this to?

                                      Just asking, because 2017 should be long enough to have a handle on the culture here.

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                                      • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                                        Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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                                        #59

                                        @eff Burn in hell, you fascist backstabbers.

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                                        • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                                          Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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                                          #60

                                          @eff oh, AI is transformative alright. it's transforming earth into a hellscape even faster than it already was.

                                          who has access to everything they stole, anyway? if their stolen shit leaked, who would get in trouble? no one?

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