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Have you #DeGoogled your search?

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  • markmetz@sfba.socialM markmetz@sfba.social

    @egzuits
    Ah, good. Although some of the other comments here are making me a bit leery about it too.

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    #44

    @markmetz They don't seem to collect any data so it should be fine, but it does still worry me.
    I'd recommend looking into their privacy policy at startpage.com/privacy-policy

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    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

      Have you #DeGoogled your search? Let us know which is your favourite.

      While many alternative search engines to Google still rely on Google or Bing's search index, it's still worth making the switch.

      Find out why in our latest article 👉

      https://tuta.com/blog/alternative-search-engines-to-google

      @ecosia @Qwant @kagihq @StartpageSearch @duckduckgo

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      #45

      @Tutanota @ecosia @Qwant @kagihq @StartpageSearch how about brave search? And why is DDG 4 stars?

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      • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

        Have you #DeGoogled your search? Let us know which is your favourite.

        While many alternative search engines to Google still rely on Google or Bing's search index, it's still worth making the switch.

        Find out why in our latest article 👉

        https://tuta.com/blog/alternative-search-engines-to-google

        @ecosia @Qwant @kagihq @StartpageSearch @duckduckgo

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        #46

        @Tutanota @ecosia @Qwant @kagihq @StartpageSearch @duckduckgo It's usually DuckDuckGo, although I'll use others on occasion.

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        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

          Have you #DeGoogled your search? Let us know which is your favourite.

          While many alternative search engines to Google still rely on Google or Bing's search index, it's still worth making the switch.

          Find out why in our latest article 👉

          https://tuta.com/blog/alternative-search-engines-to-google

          @ecosia @Qwant @kagihq @StartpageSearch @duckduckgo

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          #47

          @Tutanota Uruky is working very well so far.

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          • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

            Have you #DeGoogled your search? Let us know which is your favourite.

            While many alternative search engines to Google still rely on Google or Bing's search index, it's still worth making the switch.

            Find out why in our latest article 👉

            https://tuta.com/blog/alternative-search-engines-to-google

            @ecosia @Qwant @kagihq @StartpageSearch @duckduckgo

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            #48

            @Tutanota I use DDG no ai or brave search depending on which browser I use (Vivaldi or Librewolf)

            Brave is really good and works without JavaScript but does push reddit hard and the CEO of brave is a piece of shit. No JavaScript blocks their AI too.

            DDG No AI is fine for results too but gives me a forbidden error with JavaScript blocked and relies on bing more than I'd like

            Used to use ecosia but kept getting nagged by cloudflare checks so I left

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            • markmetz@sfba.socialM markmetz@sfba.social

              @Tutanota @ecosia @Qwant @kagihq @StartpageSearch @duckduckgo
              Is that a Russian flag under Start page?
              I’ve been trying out the Vivaldi browser and that’s the search they use.

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              #49

              @markmetz @Tutanota @ecosia @Qwant @kagihq @StartpageSearch @duckduckgo
              @Vivaldi
              Dutch Startpage is indeed default in Norwegian Vivaldi.

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              • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                Have you #DeGoogled your search? Let us know which is your favourite.

                While many alternative search engines to Google still rely on Google or Bing's search index, it's still worth making the switch.

                Find out why in our latest article 👉

                https://tuta.com/blog/alternative-search-engines-to-google

                @ecosia @Qwant @kagihq @StartpageSearch @duckduckgo

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                #50

                @Tutanota @ecosia @Qwant @kagihq @StartpageSearch @duckduckgo Kagi FTW. Yes its paid, but it ain't expensive, and it actually finds things like Google used to do back in the day...

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                • the_wub@mastodon.socialT the_wub@mastodon.social

                  @rguy @roddie It is a bit of a faff to add manually to Chromium but easier in LibreWolf and easiest in Vivaldi where you add "noai" to the URLs and change the name of the default DuckDuckGo search engine (I change it to NoAI DDG).

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                  #51

                  @the_wub No, I use Helium on PC and it's super simple to add

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                  • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                    Have you #DeGoogled your search? Let us know which is your favourite.

                    While many alternative search engines to Google still rely on Google or Bing's search index, it's still worth making the switch.

                    Find out why in our latest article 👉

                    https://tuta.com/blog/alternative-search-engines-to-google

                    @ecosia @Qwant @kagihq @StartpageSearch @duckduckgo

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                    #52

                    @Tutanota @ecosia @Qwant @kagihq @StartpageSearch @duckduckgo
                    @brave search is still a favorite

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                    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                      Have you #DeGoogled your search? Let us know which is your favourite.

                      While many alternative search engines to Google still rely on Google or Bing's search index, it's still worth making the switch.

                      Find out why in our latest article 👉

                      https://tuta.com/blog/alternative-search-engines-to-google

                      @ecosia @Qwant @kagihq @StartpageSearch @duckduckgo

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                      #53

                      @Tutanota @ecosia @Qwant @kagihq @StartpageSearch @duckduckgo I've just subscribed for Kagi yesterday. I've been eyeing them for about a year now, but was always hesitant to start paying for searches. But I finally made the move. I'm sure it will pay off, because last time I blew the free 100 searches in about 2 days.

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                      • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                        Have you #DeGoogled your search? Let us know which is your favourite.

                        While many alternative search engines to Google still rely on Google or Bing's search index, it's still worth making the switch.

                        Find out why in our latest article 👉

                        https://tuta.com/blog/alternative-search-engines-to-google

                        @ecosia @Qwant @kagihq @StartpageSearch @duckduckgo

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                        #54

                        @Tutanota @ecosia @Qwant @kagihq @StartpageSearch @duckduckgo

                        Startpage; Swisscows

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                        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                          Have you #DeGoogled your search? Let us know which is your favourite.

                          While many alternative search engines to Google still rely on Google or Bing's search index, it's still worth making the switch.

                          Find out why in our latest article 👉

                          https://tuta.com/blog/alternative-search-engines-to-google

                          @ecosia @Qwant @kagihq @StartpageSearch @duckduckgo

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                          canard164@mastodon.social
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                          #55

                          @Tutanota
                          Yes, with Oursie. https://oursie.com/
                          @ecosia @Qwant @kagihq @StartpageSearch @duckduckgo

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                          • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                            Have you #DeGoogled your search? Let us know which is your favourite.

                            While many alternative search engines to Google still rely on Google or Bing's search index, it's still worth making the switch.

                            Find out why in our latest article 👉

                            https://tuta.com/blog/alternative-search-engines-to-google

                            @ecosia @Qwant @kagihq @StartpageSearch @duckduckgo

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                            #56

                            @Tutanota @ecosia @Qwant @kagihq @StartpageSearch @duckduckgo Kagi for me.

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                            • okuna@social.tchncs.deO okuna@social.tchncs.de

                              @Tutanota @ecosia @Qwant @kagihq @StartpageSearch @duckduckgo
                              I would be careful with startpage

                              Startpage is owned and operated by Surfboard Holding BV, which is majority owned by System1, an American internet advertising company.

                              System1 is an American Internet advertising company. Formerly known as OpenMail, it was founded in 2013. It describes itself as operating a "Responsive Acquisition Marketing Platform", and cites privacy as one of its principal foci, although it has been criticized for its influence on privacy-focused properties, including search engine Startpage.com. It is headquartered in Marina del Rey, California.
                              The Startpage acquisition was done through System1's subsidiary Privacy One Group Ltd.

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                              #57

                              @Okuna @Tutanota @ecosia @Qwant @kagihq @StartpageSearch StartPage used to be pretty good, but over the last year the quality of results has really taken a dive.

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                              • thoralf@gruene.socialT thoralf@gruene.social

                                @dwa @Tutanota @ecosia @Qwant @kagihq @StartpageSearch @duckduckgo

                                Nice, but not comparable.

                                It doesn't have its own index and just uses other indices.

                                But the real bummer: 18+ only.
                                Kagi has a proper family plan (which essentially makes it even cheaper), so my kids can use it as well.

                                (And I cannot really follow your thinking that Kagi is somehow supporting Russia.)

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                                #58

                                @thoralf @dwa @Tutanota

                                #Kagi pay Yandex in exchange for search results. In russia, #Yandex hands over their users' private data to the FSB, promotes pro-war disinformation and shows only Kremlin-approved websites in the top 5 results. Yandex also sent their Ukrainian users' private information to the #russia‎n intelligence services.

                                @kagihq's CEO said: “The moment 'politics' becomes a factor in search results is the moment I stop working on a search engine. … Users deserve access to the best possible information, not information filtered through our political lens. … As someone who was a refugee of two wars, I'm not indifferent to human suffering. The world doesn't need another politicized search engine.”

                                🔗 https://ounapuu.ee/posts/2025/07/17/kagi/
                                🔗 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yandex
                                🔗 https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integration-due-to-the-geopolitical-status-quo/19

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                                • pixelcode@social.tchncs.deP pixelcode@social.tchncs.de

                                  @thoralf @dwa @Tutanota

                                  #Kagi pay Yandex in exchange for search results. In russia, #Yandex hands over their users' private data to the FSB, promotes pro-war disinformation and shows only Kremlin-approved websites in the top 5 results. Yandex also sent their Ukrainian users' private information to the #russia‎n intelligence services.

                                  @kagihq's CEO said: “The moment 'politics' becomes a factor in search results is the moment I stop working on a search engine. … Users deserve access to the best possible information, not information filtered through our political lens. … As someone who was a refugee of two wars, I'm not indifferent to human suffering. The world doesn't need another politicized search engine.”

                                  🔗 https://ounapuu.ee/posts/2025/07/17/kagi/
                                  🔗 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yandex
                                  🔗 https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integration-due-to-the-geopolitical-status-quo/19

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                                  #59

                                  @pixelcode @dwa @Tutanota @kagihq If that's the case, it would be a hard argument against Kagi.

                                  I'm quite frankly rather puzzled, what other service to use instead because ads are no option and a pure meta search engine is suboptimal at best as well.

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                                  • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                    Have you #DeGoogled your search? Let us know which is your favourite.

                                    While many alternative search engines to Google still rely on Google or Bing's search index, it's still worth making the switch.

                                    Find out why in our latest article 👉

                                    https://tuta.com/blog/alternative-search-engines-to-google

                                    @ecosia @Qwant @kagihq @StartpageSearch @duckduckgo

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                                    #60

                                    @Tutanota
                                    I utilize @Qwant and @Mojeek

                                    I appreciate the research and rankings by @ethicalconsumer

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