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  3. hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi.

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  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"

    nope, they're now doubling down further.

    this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.

    what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi

    KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned

    the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.

    https://archive.ph/dPms4#selection-1304.0-1304.1

    passocacornio@tech.lgbtP coegho@mastodon.galC zzt@mas.toZ rhube@wandering.shopR theogrin@chaosfem.twT 30 Replies Last reply
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    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

      hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"

      nope, they're now doubling down further.

      this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.

      what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi

      KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned

      the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.

      https://archive.ph/dPms4#selection-1304.0-1304.1

      passocacornio@tech.lgbtP This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @davidgerard oh boy... let me fix the text for the kde profile
      "person enter in nazi-bar, punches nazi, nazis will thrown person out"

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      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

        hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"

        nope, they're now doubling down further.

        this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.

        what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi

        KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned

        the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.

        https://archive.ph/dPms4#selection-1304.0-1304.1

        coegho@mastodon.galC This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @davidgerard to be fair, I would be ok with someone walking into a restaurant and randomly punching a nazi

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        • coegho@mastodon.galC coegho@mastodon.gal

          @davidgerard to be fair, I would be ok with someone walking into a restaurant and randomly punching a nazi

          davidgerard@circumstances.runD This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @coegho and that's another problem with it

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          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

            hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"

            nope, they're now doubling down further.

            this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.

            what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi

            KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned

            the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.

            https://archive.ph/dPms4#selection-1304.0-1304.1

            zzt@mas.toZ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @davidgerard “What happened is akin to someone walking into a restaurant and seemingly randomly punching another patron. They're going to get thrown out.” not even slightly, but ok. I think walking into a restaurant and punching someone spewing hatred who admits to being a nazi is a favor to the restaurant, actually

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            • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

              @davidgerard “What happened is akin to someone walking into a restaurant and seemingly randomly punching another patron. They're going to get thrown out.” not even slightly, but ok. I think walking into a restaurant and punching someone spewing hatred who admits to being a nazi is a favor to the restaurant, actually

              zzt@mas.toZ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @davidgerard “What happened is akin to <a random act of violence>” no, accurately pointing out online that someone is a nazi isn’t an act of violence. the nazi is, definitionally, calling for acts of violence, though.

              if you can’t get this straight, you shouldn’t be in charge of a community

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              • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"

                nope, they're now doubling down further.

                this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.

                what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi

                KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned

                the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.

                https://archive.ph/dPms4#selection-1304.0-1304.1

                rhube@wandering.shopR This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @davidgerard the blatant sophistry is making me twitch. Attributing violence to the non-violent party when there's a literal Nazi at the table is so far beyond appropriate.

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                • rhube@wandering.shopR rhube@wandering.shop

                  @davidgerard the blatant sophistry is making me twitch. Attributing violence to the non-violent party when there's a literal Nazi at the table is so far beyond appropriate.

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                  #8

                  @Rhube who the fuck runs that fucking social

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                  • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                    @davidgerard “What happened is akin to <a random act of violence>” no, accurately pointing out online that someone is a nazi isn’t an act of violence. the nazi is, definitionally, calling for acts of violence, though.

                    if you can’t get this straight, you shouldn’t be in charge of a community

                    zzt@mas.toZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @davidgerard also, you’ve gotta love the typical polite fascist trick:

                    no, this isn’t akin at all to randomly punching someone in a restaurant and getting thrown out. this is akin to overhearing another restaurant patron spewing hate, calling them a nazi, them going “damn right I’m a nazi”, and then the owners of the restaurant throw you out instead of the nazi

                    it’s real weird how the facade of neutrality breaks when you ignore the weird, incorrect implication that the accuser is guilty of any kind of violence

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                    • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                      @davidgerard “What happened is akin to someone walking into a restaurant and seemingly randomly punching another patron. They're going to get thrown out.” not even slightly, but ok. I think walking into a restaurant and punching someone spewing hatred who admits to being a nazi is a favor to the restaurant, actually

                      wilson6923@veganism.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @zzt @davidgerard not when it’s a Nazi restaurant.

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                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                        hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"

                        nope, they're now doubling down further.

                        this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.

                        what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi

                        KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned

                        the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.

                        https://archive.ph/dPms4#selection-1304.0-1304.1

                        theogrin@chaosfem.twT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @davidgerard

                        This is one step from saying, 'they're a Nazi, but they're a friend of mine and have been around for a long time, so who's the real Nazi, mmmmm?'

                        Because I all but guarantee the mod involved here has had an established relationship -- professional or personal -- and doesn't want its extent to come to light.

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                        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                          hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"

                          nope, they're now doubling down further.

                          this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.

                          what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi

                          KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned

                          the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.

                          https://archive.ph/dPms4#selection-1304.0-1304.1

                          aud@spectre.asta.lgbtA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          @davidgerard @blogdiva Whoever runs that account needs to log off and/or resign

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                          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                            hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"

                            nope, they're now doubling down further.

                            this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.

                            what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi

                            KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned

                            the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.

                            https://archive.ph/dPms4#selection-1304.0-1304.1

                            womble@infosec.exchangeW This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #13

                            @davidgerard in any case, now that mods, sysadmins(?), and other participants *have* been made aware, the outcome is... the Nazi is still in the bar. Which shows exactly what would have happened had the suggested action (private notification) been taken.

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                            • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                              hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"

                              nope, they're now doubling down further.

                              this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.

                              what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi

                              KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned

                              the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.

                              https://archive.ph/dPms4#selection-1304.0-1304.1

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                              #14

                              @davidgerard Ok, but nazis go into restaurants to randomly punch people & the restaurants love the nazis. See "Mark Punchers"

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                              • womble@infosec.exchangeW womble@infosec.exchange

                                @davidgerard in any case, now that mods, sysadmins(?), and other participants *have* been made aware, the outcome is... the Nazi is still in the bar. Which shows exactly what would have happened had the suggested action (private notification) been taken.

                                despicable_me@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #15

                                @womble @davidgerard
                                > they were also banned for their conduct outside of KDE being so unacceptable that people inside KDE did not want to associate with them.
                                https://pointieststick.com/2026/09/23/kde-and-ai-and-you-and-me/

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                                • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                  hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"

                                  nope, they're now doubling down further.

                                  this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.

                                  what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi

                                  KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned

                                  the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.

                                  https://archive.ph/dPms4#selection-1304.0-1304.1

                                  itspomf@chitter.xyzI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16

                                  @davidgerard wow. I think I'm just going to swear off technology forever and go live in the woods.

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                                  • despicable_me@mastodon.socialD despicable_me@mastodon.social

                                    @womble @davidgerard
                                    > they were also banned for their conduct outside of KDE being so unacceptable that people inside KDE did not want to associate with them.
                                    https://pointieststick.com/2026/09/23/kde-and-ai-and-you-and-me/

                                    womble@infosec.exchangeW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #17

                                    @despicable_me @davidgerard I don't trust that narrative, since pointing out someone's prior public statements is in no way "doxing". If the author is willing to misrepresent the situation to that extent, they're not a reliable narrator.

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                                    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                      hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"

                                      nope, they're now doubling down further.

                                      this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.

                                      what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi

                                      KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned

                                      the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.

                                      https://archive.ph/dPms4#selection-1304.0-1304.1

                                      admin@mastodon.slightlycyberpunk.comA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #18

                                      @davidgerard "even if it turned out they deserved it"

                                      UM...WHAT THE FUCK!?

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                                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                        hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"

                                        nope, they're now doubling down further.

                                        this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.

                                        what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi

                                        KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned

                                        the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.

                                        https://archive.ph/dPms4#selection-1304.0-1304.1

                                        punissuer@universeodon.comP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #19

                                        @davidgerard imagine blocking a user for *checks notes* committing a logical fallacy (the recipient somehow deserved)...

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                                        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                          hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"

                                          nope, they're now doubling down further.

                                          this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.

                                          what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi

                                          KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned

                                          the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.

                                          https://archive.ph/dPms4#selection-1304.0-1304.1

                                          benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #20

                                          @davidgerard

                                          a solid aspect of social existence:

                                          1. bully bullies someone. observers stand around watching

                                          2. bullied person fights back. observers go "woah woah! stop!"

                                          alternatively:

                                          1. bully bullies someone. people complain. authorities do nothing
                                          2. bullied person fights back. authorities act. and punish bully and bullied the same, sometimes the bullied worse

                                          i don't know what it is about sociology, but you see this time and time again

                                          from school principals to... social media mods

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