hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi.
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@davidgerard “What happened is akin to someone walking into a restaurant and seemingly randomly punching another patron. They're going to get thrown out.” not even slightly, but ok. I think walking into a restaurant and punching someone spewing hatred who admits to being a nazi is a favor to the restaurant, actually
@davidgerard “What happened is akin to <a random act of violence>” no, accurately pointing out online that someone is a nazi isn’t an act of violence. the nazi is, definitionally, calling for acts of violence, though.
if you can’t get this straight, you shouldn’t be in charge of a community
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hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"
nope, they're now doubling down further.
this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.
what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi
KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned
the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.
@davidgerard the blatant sophistry is making me twitch. Attributing violence to the non-violent party when there's a literal Nazi at the table is so far beyond appropriate.
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@davidgerard the blatant sophistry is making me twitch. Attributing violence to the non-violent party when there's a literal Nazi at the table is so far beyond appropriate.
@Rhube who the fuck runs that fucking social
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@davidgerard “What happened is akin to <a random act of violence>” no, accurately pointing out online that someone is a nazi isn’t an act of violence. the nazi is, definitionally, calling for acts of violence, though.
if you can’t get this straight, you shouldn’t be in charge of a community
@davidgerard also, you’ve gotta love the typical polite fascist trick:
no, this isn’t akin at all to randomly punching someone in a restaurant and getting thrown out. this is akin to overhearing another restaurant patron spewing hate, calling them a nazi, them going “damn right I’m a nazi”, and then the owners of the restaurant throw you out instead of the nazi
it’s real weird how the facade of neutrality breaks when you ignore the weird, incorrect implication that the accuser is guilty of any kind of violence
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@davidgerard “What happened is akin to someone walking into a restaurant and seemingly randomly punching another patron. They're going to get thrown out.” not even slightly, but ok. I think walking into a restaurant and punching someone spewing hatred who admits to being a nazi is a favor to the restaurant, actually
@zzt @davidgerard not when it’s a Nazi restaurant.
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hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"
nope, they're now doubling down further.
this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.
what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi
KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned
the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.
This is one step from saying, 'they're a Nazi, but they're a friend of mine and have been around for a long time, so who's the real Nazi, mmmmm?'
Because I all but guarantee the mod involved here has had an established relationship -- professional or personal -- and doesn't want its extent to come to light.
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hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"
nope, they're now doubling down further.
this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.
what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi
KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned
the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.
@davidgerard @blogdiva Whoever runs that account needs to log off and/or resign
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hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"
nope, they're now doubling down further.
this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.
what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi
KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned
the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.
@davidgerard in any case, now that mods, sysadmins(?), and other participants *have* been made aware, the outcome is... the Nazi is still in the bar. Which shows exactly what would have happened had the suggested action (private notification) been taken.
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hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"
nope, they're now doubling down further.
this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.
what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi
KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned
the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.
@davidgerard Ok, but nazis go into restaurants to randomly punch people & the restaurants love the nazis. See "Mark Punchers"
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@davidgerard in any case, now that mods, sysadmins(?), and other participants *have* been made aware, the outcome is... the Nazi is still in the bar. Which shows exactly what would have happened had the suggested action (private notification) been taken.
@womble @davidgerard
> they were also banned for their conduct outside of KDE being so unacceptable that people inside KDE did not want to associate with them.
https://pointieststick.com/2026/09/23/kde-and-ai-and-you-and-me/ -
hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"
nope, they're now doubling down further.
this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.
what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi
KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned
the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.
@davidgerard wow. I think I'm just going to swear off technology forever and go live in the woods.
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@womble @davidgerard
> they were also banned for their conduct outside of KDE being so unacceptable that people inside KDE did not want to associate with them.
https://pointieststick.com/2026/09/23/kde-and-ai-and-you-and-me/@despicable_me @davidgerard I don't trust that narrative, since pointing out someone's prior public statements is in no way "doxing". If the author is willing to misrepresent the situation to that extent, they're not a reliable narrator.
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hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"
nope, they're now doubling down further.
this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.
what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi
KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned
the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.
@davidgerard "even if it turned out they deserved it"
UM...WHAT THE FUCK!?
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hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"
nope, they're now doubling down further.
this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.
what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi
KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned
the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.
@davidgerard imagine blocking a user for *checks notes* committing a logical fallacy (the recipient somehow deserved)...
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hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"
nope, they're now doubling down further.
this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.
what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi
KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned
the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.
a solid aspect of social existence:
1. bully bullies someone. observers stand around watching
2. bullied person fights back. observers go "woah woah! stop!"
alternatively:
1. bully bullies someone. people complain. authorities do nothing
2. bullied person fights back. authorities act. and punish bully and bullied the same, sometimes the bullied worsei don't know what it is about sociology, but you see this time and time again
from school principals to... social media mods
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hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"
nope, they're now doubling down further.
this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.
what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi
KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned
the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.
Scratch a centrist, find a Nazi.
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a solid aspect of social existence:
1. bully bullies someone. observers stand around watching
2. bullied person fights back. observers go "woah woah! stop!"
alternatively:
1. bully bullies someone. people complain. authorities do nothing
2. bullied person fights back. authorities act. and punish bully and bullied the same, sometimes the bullied worsei don't know what it is about sociology, but you see this time and time again
from school principals to... social media mods
@benroyce @davidgerard Story of my life.
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a solid aspect of social existence:
1. bully bullies someone. observers stand around watching
2. bullied person fights back. observers go "woah woah! stop!"
alternatively:
1. bully bullies someone. people complain. authorities do nothing
2. bullied person fights back. authorities act. and punish bully and bullied the same, sometimes the bullied worsei don't know what it is about sociology, but you see this time and time again
from school principals to... social media mods
paradox of tolerance and why you cannot be nice with bullies. it doesn't help, especially if you know they are greedy AND stupid. they will always change the goal posts.
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hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"
nope, they're now doubling down further.
this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.
what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi
KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned
the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.
> the correct way to proceed is to alert mods
On the Enterprise we have the Chain of Command, cadet!
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a solid aspect of social existence:
1. bully bullies someone. observers stand around watching
2. bullied person fights back. observers go "woah woah! stop!"
alternatively:
1. bully bullies someone. people complain. authorities do nothing
2. bullied person fights back. authorities act. and punish bully and bullied the same, sometimes the bullied worsei don't know what it is about sociology, but you see this time and time again
from school principals to... social media mods
The story of centuries...
The "cause" is never punished...
The "effect" is usually punished.
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The effect should walk.The cause should go to jail (or similar, depending what the cause is...)
