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  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

    @FinchHaven

    Are you attempting to use translate on a different server's website?

    finchhaven@sfba.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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    #26

    @FediTips

    I am attemting to translate using the Translate text at the bottom of given post

    Again my instance uses LibreTranslate

    Sometimes I'll click through to the post on the origin instance and try there

    Sometimes (when I have a lot of time to waste and I'm in a better mood I'll open up the instances

    /public/local

    and see

    1) if they have any posts in anything other than their native language, and

    2) do they seem to offer any translation at all

    And here's the core point:

    how much effort should I be expected to expand, to translate a foreign / European/ German post just to read something that ends up being extremely mundane

    And how much finite screen space am I expected to give to posts / posters I'll never be able to translate and read?

    I've already Muted and Blocked two in the last 15 minutes...

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    • finchhaven@sfba.socialF finchhaven@sfba.social

      @FediTips

      I am attemting to translate using the Translate text at the bottom of given post

      Again my instance uses LibreTranslate

      Sometimes I'll click through to the post on the origin instance and try there

      Sometimes (when I have a lot of time to waste and I'm in a better mood I'll open up the instances

      /public/local

      and see

      1) if they have any posts in anything other than their native language, and

      2) do they seem to offer any translation at all

      And here's the core point:

      how much effort should I be expected to expand, to translate a foreign / European/ German post just to read something that ends up being extremely mundane

      And how much finite screen space am I expected to give to posts / posters I'll never be able to translate and read?

      I've already Muted and Blocked two in the last 15 minutes...

      feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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      #27

      @FinchHaven

      Are you seeing a "translate" button below remote posts you are viewing within your own instance's website?

      If you are, what happens when you click it? (Not on the origin instance but when viewed within your own instance's interface.)

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      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

        @BlameDutchie @gotofritz

        "The most common definition of an algorithm is: a finite, step-by-step sequence of precise instructions"

        I'm not talking about a technical dictionary definition, I mean the way non-technical people actually use that word in the real world.

        They'll typically say something like "the algorithm is showing me stuff" or "the algorithm has hidden my post".

        My accounts and websites are largely aimed at non-technical people, so I try to use non-technical meanings and words.

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        #28

        @FediTips @BlameDutchie

        You just repeat the same thing over and over. You have arbitrarily decided what "most people" mean and you have decided what are the words one should use with "them" and you have no intention of even contemplating you may have got it wrong. Waste of time talking to you

        Btw, I don't follow you, your posts keep turning up in my feed because the fediverse algorithm is pushing them into my feed

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        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

          @FinchHaven

          Are you seeing a "translate" button below remote posts you are viewing within your own instance's website?

          If you are, what happens when you click it? (Not on the origin instance but when viewed within your own instance's interface.)

          finchhaven@sfba.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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          #29

          @FediTips

          JFC...

          I have four tabs open, Firefox web browser on Ubuntu, to my home instance

          /home

          /public/local

          my Lists

          and my Profile home

          I'm on my /home tab viewing posts

          I am looking for and using the Translate tag at the lower left of a given post

          Do you need a screenshot to understand what I'm saying?

          Or do you think I don't know what I'm talking about?

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          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

            @BlameDutchie @gotofritz

            "The most common definition of an algorithm is: a finite, step-by-step sequence of precise instructions"

            I'm not talking about a technical dictionary definition, I mean the way non-technical people actually use that word in the real world.

            They'll typically say something like "the algorithm is showing me stuff" or "the algorithm has hidden my post".

            My accounts and websites are largely aimed at non-technical people, so I try to use non-technical meanings and words.

            blamedutchie@expressional.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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            #30

            @FediTips @gotofritz

            I agree with Fritz... You are not even willing to consider you could do better.

            So be it. I have better things to do than trying to convince someone he is writing like an AI.

            Cheers.

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            • finchhaven@sfba.socialF finchhaven@sfba.social

              @FediTips

              JFC...

              I have four tabs open, Firefox web browser on Ubuntu, to my home instance

              /home

              /public/local

              my Lists

              and my Profile home

              I'm on my /home tab viewing posts

              I am looking for and using the Translate tag at the lower left of a given post

              Do you need a screenshot to understand what I'm saying?

              Or do you think I don't know what I'm talking about?

              feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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              #31

              @FinchHaven

              "Or do you think I don't know what I'm talking about?"

              Absolutely not! I am the one who doesn't understand, I am trying to get a better picture of what is going on by asking for details 🙂

              I'm trying to help.

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              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                Is your Mastodon timeline too empty or too full? Are you seeing stuff you don't want to, and missing stuff you do want to see? Is your timeline overwhelmed by someone who shares too many posts?

                These and lots more timeline problems are solved in the "How to customise your Mastodon timeline" guide:

                ➡️ https://fedi.tips/does-mastodon-and-the-fediverse-use-algorithms-does-it-start-pushing-stuff-at-me-based-on-my-interactions

                #FediTips #Mastodon

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                #32

                p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                faraiwe@mstdn.socialF kierkegaanks@beige.partyK coolerpseudonym@wandering.shopC arosano@mastodon.bsd.cafeA martinescardo@mathstodon.xyzM 12 Replies Last reply
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                • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                  p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                  Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                  If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                  faraiwe@mstdn.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #33

                  @FediTips there is no pleasing those both humorless and in terminal thrall of Dunning Kruger. Just block, move on.

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                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                    p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                    Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                    If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                    kierkegaanks@beige.partyK This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #34

                    @FediTips that sounds exactly like mastodon

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                    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                      p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                      Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                      If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                      coolerpseudonym@wandering.shopC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #35

                      @FediTips I am sending more kofi money

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                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                        p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                        Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                        If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                        arosano@mastodon.bsd.cafeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #36

                        @FediTips You are doing an excellent job. Don't let them get to you.

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                        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                          p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                          Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                          If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                          martinescardo@mathstodon.xyzM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #37

                          @FediTips asks "Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly?"

                          I highly recommend that.

                          Always.

                          But also particularly when somebody is trying to help without compensation, just for the sake of the community.

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                          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                            p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                            Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                            If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

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                            kaliah@dragonscave.space
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                            #38

                            @FediTips Ugh, some people just need to chill. I think you're doing fine.

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                            • coolerpseudonym@wandering.shopC coolerpseudonym@wandering.shop

                              @FediTips I am sending more kofi money

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                              #39

                              @FediTips Perhaps a positive reinforcement will outweigh the negative one you just got

                              Thank you for what you do.

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                              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                                Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                                If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

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                                #40

                                @FediTips I just glanced through the article to see how you were using the word. You even explained how you were using it and why while acknowledging that other meanings exist. I would give that an A+ for communication. I'm sorry someone decided to be mean to you. I hope one day they learn to chill out and help people instead.

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                                  #41

                                  @Arthfach @FediTips
                                  Sorted in chronological order is absolutely an algorithm.

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                                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                    p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                                    Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                                    If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

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                                    #42

                                    @FediTips chill buddy please. Just don´t let it get to you.
                                    I´m critizising a lot about this platform but never personal. There is potential lost here, that´s true imho.
                                    Don´t let that get on a personal level, please

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                                      #43

                                      @Arthfach @FediTips Agree 500 Trump percents. Your ARE doing a great job. Ignore the pestilence.

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                                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                        p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                                        Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                                        If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

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                                        #44

                                        @FediTips this thread is providing good blocklist fodder. Lotta pendants showing their arses today.

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                                        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                          p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                                          Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                                          If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

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                                          #45

                                          @FediTips Accusing someone of causing harm for using the non-technical definition of algorithm is kind of darkly funny in a way.

                                          Like it's clear that they understand that words can have expanded and non-literal definitions, but seemingly only for words they want to use to make a fiddly argument about terminology sounds more dire.

                                          Tbh, between the word "algorithm" and the word "harm", it is probably more important to insist on an accurate definition of the word "harm".

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