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  3. So thousands of programmers have been laid off recently, they can almost all work remotely and we all need to get off US tech as quickly as possible.

So thousands of programmers have been laid off recently, they can almost all work remotely and we all need to get off US tech as quickly as possible.

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  • benjaminklein@mastodon.nuB benjaminklein@mastodon.nu

    So thousands of programmers have been laid off recently, they can almost all work remotely and we all need to get off US tech as quickly as possible. Seems like the perfect opportunity to fund an open source collaborative suite of products to replace meta, alphabet, microsoft apple and amazon.

    #tech #ustech #programming #eu #meta #amazon #microsoft #amazon #apple

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    @BenjaminKlein I think France has started already!

    https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/
    https://github.com/suitenumerique/

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    • oldclumsy_nowmad@mastodon.socialO oldclumsy_nowmad@mastodon.social

      @BenjaminKlein

      Or maybe to create a new kind of "peoplenets", letting groups of like-minded folks set up small, loose, evanescent networks? To communicate via relayed signals between cheap, low-power, unregulated, not-commercially-monopolized radios? Kinda like the Internet was visualized, way back when, but for little folks to use, not the ellisons or the emperor's troops? Secure and encrypted?

      Great sci-fi story idea, eh?

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      @oldclumsy_nowmad @BenjaminKlein You mean like Meshtastic and MeshCore?

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      • knowprose@mastodon.socialK knowprose@mastodon.social

        @oldclumsy_nowmad @BenjaminKlein I've been reading up on #omn - it's not a platform, it's an idea.

        @info Might be worth a follow.

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        #6

        @knowprose @oldclumsy_nowmad @BenjaminKlein @info Meshnet?

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        • c_merriweather@social.linux.pizzaC c_merriweather@social.linux.pizza

          @knowprose @oldclumsy_nowmad @BenjaminKlein @info Meshnet?

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          @c_merriweather @oldclumsy_nowmad @BenjaminKlein @info no. A conceptual framework, more like.

          Kind of like guidelines for community driven stuff that evolves.

          And it adapts.

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          • cyberbeni@mastodon.artC cyberbeni@mastodon.art

            @oldclumsy_nowmad @BenjaminKlein You mean like Meshtastic and MeshCore?

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            #8

            @Cyberbeni @BenjaminKlein

            I'd forgotten about Meshtastic and MeshCore (never knew much about them, anyway). I was thinking of something stealthy, designed to avoid established (and monitored) infrastructure and protocols. A network that would assemble adaptively and then be gone in a flash. It seems like a very difficult thing to do, in view of how the spectrum is so intensely partitioned and used, so maybe it's just impossible.

            Just daydreaming, by a mostly ignorant guy.

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            • knowprose@mastodon.socialK knowprose@mastodon.social

              @c_merriweather @oldclumsy_nowmad @BenjaminKlein @info no. A conceptual framework, more like.

              Kind of like guidelines for community driven stuff that evolves.

              And it adapts.

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              #9

              @knowprose @c_merriweather @BenjaminKlein @info

              Yes, that could be it.

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              • c_merriweather@social.linux.pizzaC c_merriweather@social.linux.pizza

                @knowprose @oldclumsy_nowmad @BenjaminKlein @info Meshnet?

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                @c_merriweather @knowprose @BenjaminKlein @info

                Just looked at Wikipedia and that's all I know of Meshnet, but it does sound like the kind of thing.

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                • oldclumsy_nowmad@mastodon.socialO oldclumsy_nowmad@mastodon.social

                  @c_merriweather @knowprose @BenjaminKlein @info

                  Just looked at Wikipedia and that's all I know of Meshnet, but it does sound like the kind of thing.

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                  @oldclumsy_nowmad

                  I was also thinking of something I saw years ago in a tech magazine: A network made of cellphones, using homemade wire mesh, line-of-sight solar powered repeaters, instead of cell towers. It reminded me of a low-power ham network.

                  I think it was being used somewhere in the Middle East.

                  @knowprose @BenjaminKlein @info

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                  • c_merriweather@social.linux.pizzaC c_merriweather@social.linux.pizza

                    @oldclumsy_nowmad

                    I was also thinking of something I saw years ago in a tech magazine: A network made of cellphones, using homemade wire mesh, line-of-sight solar powered repeaters, instead of cell towers. It reminded me of a low-power ham network.

                    I think it was being used somewhere in the Middle East.

                    @knowprose @BenjaminKlein @info

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                    @c_merriweather @knowprose @BenjaminKlein @info

                    Interesting! Or could do something similar with (modified, or from-scratch, with extra features) walkie-talkies maybe?

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                    • benjaminklein@mastodon.nuB benjaminklein@mastodon.nu

                      So thousands of programmers have been laid off recently, they can almost all work remotely and we all need to get off US tech as quickly as possible. Seems like the perfect opportunity to fund an open source collaborative suite of products to replace meta, alphabet, microsoft apple and amazon.

                      #tech #ustech #programming #eu #meta #amazon #microsoft #amazon #apple

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                      #13

                      @BenjaminKlein thousands is nothing when those companies combined employees millions. The good thing you will still be at home no need to clean your desk

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                      • sir_anders@whimsy.chatS sir_anders@whimsy.chat

                        @BenjaminKlein thousands is nothing when those companies combined employees millions. The good thing you will still be at home no need to clean your desk

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                        @sir_anders I didn't carefully think this out. Looking at the numbers now, Microsoft has less than 100k programmers. I would think if you had paid full time positions and focused the work carefully you could do an enormous amount with even half of that. Just as an example Debian had 1422 contributors over the last 12 months.

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                        • zm@mementomori.socialZ zm@mementomori.social

                          @BenjaminKlein I think France has started already!

                          https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/
                          https://github.com/suitenumerique/

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                          @zm the French have always been good at keeping standards, be wonderful if Europe could unite around a single project.

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                          • benjaminklein@mastodon.nuB benjaminklein@mastodon.nu

                            @sir_anders I didn't carefully think this out. Looking at the numbers now, Microsoft has less than 100k programmers. I would think if you had paid full time positions and focused the work carefully you could do an enormous amount with even half of that. Just as an example Debian had 1422 contributors over the last 12 months.

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                            @BenjaminKlein actually Microsoft have over 200k employees and over 100k are in development .
                            Your reference is not entirely correct, MS have hundreds if not thousands of services and products.

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                            • benjaminklein@mastodon.nuB benjaminklein@mastodon.nu

                              @zm the French have always been good at keeping standards, be wonderful if Europe could unite around a single project.

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                              @BenjaminKlein
                              It's another story from the inside.
                              We (French) fail at this like any other country.
                              And, yes, uniting would be nice. Not gonna happen tho. See the XKCD about standards for more 👌
                              @zm

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                              • benjaminklein@mastodon.nuB benjaminklein@mastodon.nu

                                So thousands of programmers have been laid off recently, they can almost all work remotely and we all need to get off US tech as quickly as possible. Seems like the perfect opportunity to fund an open source collaborative suite of products to replace meta, alphabet, microsoft apple and amazon.

                                #tech #ustech #programming #eu #meta #amazon #microsoft #amazon #apple

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                                @BenjaminKlein Where do I sign?

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