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  • eregloch@mastodon.coffeeE eregloch@mastodon.coffee

    @aral

    @lain
    Since I read the info on the verification process, supposedly fully on device, and user name options (real or something else) for now I tend to give it the benefit of doubt. It might even reduce malicious fake accounts.

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    #54

    @EregLoch@mastodon.coffee @aral@mastodon.ar.al @lain@lain.com if the verification is truly fully on device, then in theory someone can just spoof the results that get sent back to the server and pretend theyre a real person, which completely defeats the point

    the only way ID verification truly works is when there is some external server doing the verification, which of course has its own even worse problems

    there is no way to make ID verification both private and trustworthy, the two are fundamentally interlinked, so theres no point even entertaining the idea either way

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    • vonkordke@social.vivaldi.netV vonkordke@social.vivaldi.net

      @hsza @lain @aral
      Do you care what monkeys screams when you go near their cage in the zoo? Me neither

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      #55

      @vonKordke @lain @aral pspspspspspsps monkey

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      • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

        @vonKordke @lain @aral pspspspspspsps monkey

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        #56

        @vonKordke @aral @lain thats right i dont actually care youve proven you’re not worth listening to heh

        just trolling for the entertainment value now

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        • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

          @vonKordke @aral @lain thats right i dont actually care youve proven you’re not worth listening to heh

          just trolling for the entertainment value now

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          #57

          @hsza @lain @aral

          Not "not worth listening". You just can't understand nor accept different opinions. But that's fine. Not everybody can be open minded.

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          • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

            Scan your passport to join our social network.

            Don’t worry, it’s European.

            Needless to say, unless you’re a complete and utter fool, do not join W and warn your friends not to join W either.

            https://wsocial.news/

            #EU #europe #W #socialNetwork #identityVerification #surveillance #privacy #humanRights #democracy #data @lain https://lain.com/objects/aaa7d9d6-331b-4a59-aeda-b2badafc15c3

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            #58

            @aral @lain@lain.com as it was said: mr gorbachev, tear that bullshit down

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            • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

              Scan your passport to join our social network.

              Don’t worry, it’s European.

              Needless to say, unless you’re a complete and utter fool, do not join W and warn your friends not to join W either.

              https://wsocial.news/

              #EU #europe #W #socialNetwork #identityVerification #surveillance #privacy #humanRights #democracy #data @lain https://lain.com/objects/aaa7d9d6-331b-4a59-aeda-b2badafc15c3

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              #59

              @aral @lain 😂😂I don't have a passport

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              • crv@akkoma.kruhlovo.xyzC crv@akkoma.kruhlovo.xyz
                @goog @aral @mynameistillian report za tumulca 🥀
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                #60

                @crv@akkoma.kruhlovo.xyz @aral@mastodon.ar.al @mynameistillian@plush.city

                tylko na fedi takie kwiatki

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                • goog@gabboman.xyzG goog@gabboman.xyz

                  @crv@akkoma.kruhlovo.xyz @aral@mastodon.ar.al @mynameistillian@plush.city

                  tylko na fedi takie kwiatki

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                  #61
                  @goog @aral @mynameistillian tumuLec fedi meta
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                  • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                    Scan your passport to join our social network.

                    Don’t worry, it’s European.

                    Needless to say, unless you’re a complete and utter fool, do not join W and warn your friends not to join W either.

                    https://wsocial.news/

                    #EU #europe #W #socialNetwork #identityVerification #surveillance #privacy #humanRights #democracy #data @lain https://lain.com/objects/aaa7d9d6-331b-4a59-aeda-b2badafc15c3

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                    #62

                    @aral on a somewhat related note LinkedIn wants me to upload my ID to be able to close my account because I do not agree with uploading my ID to continue to use it… and you need an unblocked account to contact the DPO to exercise your rights which implies… uploading the ID. Kind of a catch-22

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                    • causeofbsod@wetdry.worldC causeofbsod@wetdry.world

                      @EregLoch @aral @lain@lain.com if the verification is entirely on-device then it is likely trivial to spoof with some work in ghidra.

                      rule 1 of computer security: the client is untrustworthy

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                      #63

                      @CauseOfBSOD

                      @aral
                      You are missing rule 2: the server is untrustworthy. In networking any system can be malignant or hacked and become malignant. Assuming otherwise is failure in the waiting.

                      (Rule 3: use open source and invite the world to find vulnerabilities)

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                      • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                        Scan your passport to join our social network.

                        Don’t worry, it’s European.

                        Needless to say, unless you’re a complete and utter fool, do not join W and warn your friends not to join W either.

                        https://wsocial.news/

                        #EU #europe #W #socialNetwork #identityVerification #surveillance #privacy #humanRights #democracy #data @lain https://lain.com/objects/aaa7d9d6-331b-4a59-aeda-b2badafc15c3

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                        #64

                        @aral @lain Lsocial lol

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