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  • vonkordke@social.vivaldi.netV vonkordke@social.vivaldi.net

    @aral @lain they say ID scan is verified on device. If that's true, that could be a good thing.
    I've enjoyed using Facebook once, when nobody had a problem posting under their real name, when there was no spam or ads.

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    #35

    @vonKordke @aral @lain a “dox yourself” requirement is never a good thing, fuck off

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    • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

      @vonKordke @aral @lain a “dox yourself” requirement is never a good thing, fuck off

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      #36

      @hsza @lain @aral
      Why are you aggressive? If the scanning is offline (proven by audits), and the app provides just the signal of you being an adult, nothing more, I see no reason not to use it. That's the only way this can be implemented while maintaining privacy.

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      • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

        Scan your passport to join our social network.

        Don’t worry, it’s European.

        Needless to say, unless you’re a complete and utter fool, do not join W and warn your friends not to join W either.

        https://wsocial.news/

        #EU #europe #W #socialNetwork #identityVerification #surveillance #privacy #humanRights #democracy #data @lain https://lain.com/objects/aaa7d9d6-331b-4a59-aeda-b2badafc15c3

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        #37
        @aral @lain every single online service i can think of has said that your identification materials ever leave your device, then was later exposed for just completely lying about it because it turns out you can just lie about that and face zero consequences. this one's almost certainly no different.
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        • vonkordke@social.vivaldi.netV vonkordke@social.vivaldi.net

          @hsza @lain @aral
          Why are you aggressive? If the scanning is offline (proven by audits), and the app provides just the signal of you being an adult, nothing more, I see no reason not to use it. That's the only way this can be implemented while maintaining privacy.

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          #38

          @vonKordke @lain @aral This should not be implemented at all

          there’s no excuse for fascist age discrimination tooling that denies anonymity to every user. “privacy” my ass, the core premise is unacceptable

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          • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

            Scan your passport to join our social network.

            Don’t worry, it’s European.

            Needless to say, unless you’re a complete and utter fool, do not join W and warn your friends not to join W either.

            https://wsocial.news/

            #EU #europe #W #socialNetwork #identityVerification #surveillance #privacy #humanRights #democracy #data @lain https://lain.com/objects/aaa7d9d6-331b-4a59-aeda-b2badafc15c3

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            #39

            @aral@mastodon.ar.al privacy concerns aside, there is no way that anyone is going to sincerely say “follow me on W”

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            • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

              @vonKordke @lain @aral This should not be implemented at all

              there’s no excuse for fascist age discrimination tooling that denies anonymity to every user. “privacy” my ass, the core premise is unacceptable

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              #40

              @hsza @lain @aral
              You can still be anonymous with that solution, why do you find it hard to grasp? It's really simple. It just has to be verified by the people.
              Social media is bad for kids and something must be done.

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              • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                Scan your passport to join our social network.

                Don’t worry, it’s European.

                Needless to say, unless you’re a complete and utter fool, do not join W and warn your friends not to join W either.

                https://wsocial.news/

                #EU #europe #W #socialNetwork #identityVerification #surveillance #privacy #humanRights #democracy #data @lain https://lain.com/objects/aaa7d9d6-331b-4a59-aeda-b2badafc15c3

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                #41

                @aral@mastodon.ar.al @lain@lain.com also loving the "you can use your full real name or just appear as 'a person'" aspect, very awesome stuff

                also love calling your shit decentralised because it uses atproto. good job everyone

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                • vonkordke@social.vivaldi.netV vonkordke@social.vivaldi.net

                  @hsza @lain @aral
                  You can still be anonymous with that solution, why do you find it hard to grasp? It's really simple. It just has to be verified by the people.
                  Social media is bad for kids and something must be done.

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                  #42

                  @vonKordke @lain @aral i will not install some stupid phone spyware and give it an ID to use some grifters’ social media site

                  this ignorance on your part is just pathetic, like get yourself a grip, the fascists doing this do not have your best interests in mind

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                  • vonkordke@social.vivaldi.netV vonkordke@social.vivaldi.net

                    @hsza @lain @aral
                    You can still be anonymous with that solution, why do you find it hard to grasp? It's really simple. It just has to be verified by the people.
                    Social media is bad for kids and something must be done.

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                    #43

                    @vonKordke @lain @aral lmao “social media is bad for kids”

                    sorry you are a fucking part of the problem and you know it

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                    • eregloch@mastodon.coffeeE eregloch@mastodon.coffee

                      @aral

                      @lain
                      Since I read the info on the verification process, supposedly fully on device, and user name options (real or something else) for now I tend to give it the benefit of doubt. It might even reduce malicious fake accounts.

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                      #44

                      @EregLoch @aral @lain@lain.com if the verification is entirely on-device then it is likely trivial to spoof with some work in ghidra.

                      rule 1 of computer security: the client is untrustworthy

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                      • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

                        @vonKordke @lain @aral i will not install some stupid phone spyware and give it an ID to use some grifters’ social media site

                        this ignorance on your part is just pathetic, like get yourself a grip, the fascists doing this do not have your best interests in mind

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                        #45

                        @hsza @lain @aral

                        When it's confirmed it's not Spyware, it's not Spyware.
                        Clearly social media is bad also for some adults.

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                        • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

                          @vonKordke @lain @aral lmao “social media is bad for kids”

                          sorry you are a fucking part of the problem and you know it

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                          #46

                          @hsza @lain @aral it is confirmed by many scientific studies. You cannot deny it. It's a fact.

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                          • vonkordke@social.vivaldi.netV vonkordke@social.vivaldi.net

                            @hsza @lain @aral

                            When it's confirmed it's not Spyware, it's not Spyware.
                            Clearly social media is bad also for some adults.

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                            #47

                            @vonKordke @lain @aral you are naive and oblivious. if social media is bad for some adults, you’re one of those.

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                            • vonkordke@social.vivaldi.netV vonkordke@social.vivaldi.net

                              @hsza @lain @aral it is confirmed by many scientific studies. You cannot deny it. It's a fact.

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                              #48

                              @vonKordke @lain @aral lol you can’t “it’s a fact” your fascist delusion into being true

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                              • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

                                @vonKordke @lain @aral lol you can’t “it’s a fact” your fascist delusion into being true

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                                #49

                                @hsza @lain @aral

                                You need to grow up

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                                • vonkordke@social.vivaldi.netV vonkordke@social.vivaldi.net

                                  @hsza @lain @aral

                                  You need to grow up

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                                  #50

                                  @vonKordke @lain @aral you know who this response paints you as? A geniune Nazi

                                  Only fascists whine “oh you call everyone a fascist” when called out as what they are

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                                  • causeofbsod@wetdry.worldC causeofbsod@wetdry.world

                                    @EregLoch @aral @lain@lain.com if the verification is entirely on-device then it is likely trivial to spoof with some work in ghidra.

                                    rule 1 of computer security: the client is untrustworthy

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                                    #51

                                    @EregLoch @aral this is of course assuming they arent just lying and doing the verification remotely anyway

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                                    • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

                                      @vonKordke @lain @aral you know who this response paints you as? A geniune Nazi

                                      Only fascists whine “oh you call everyone a fascist” when called out as what they are

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                                      #52

                                      @hsza @lain @aral
                                      Do you care what monkeys screams when you go near their cage in the zoo? Me neither

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                                      • goog@gabboman.xyzG goog@gabboman.xyz

                                        @aral@mastodon.ar.al @mynameistillian@plush.city

                                        to any dumbass reporting this post, a simple google search would have spared you the effort of reporting what's a known meme on the polish side of internet

                                        https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamil_Tumulec

                                        go care about actual doxxing that happens on your very own cesspool instead of getting mad over a photo of an ID that might as well never really exist

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                                        @goog @aral @mynameistillian report za tumulca 🥀
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                                        • eregloch@mastodon.coffeeE eregloch@mastodon.coffee

                                          @aral

                                          @lain
                                          Since I read the info on the verification process, supposedly fully on device, and user name options (real or something else) for now I tend to give it the benefit of doubt. It might even reduce malicious fake accounts.

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                                          #54

                                          @EregLoch@mastodon.coffee @aral@mastodon.ar.al @lain@lain.com if the verification is truly fully on device, then in theory someone can just spoof the results that get sent back to the server and pretend theyre a real person, which completely defeats the point

                                          the only way ID verification truly works is when there is some external server doing the verification, which of course has its own even worse problems

                                          there is no way to make ID verification both private and trustworthy, the two are fundamentally interlinked, so theres no point even entertaining the idea either way

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