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  3. Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

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  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

    I’ve seen some breathless reporting in the media about the situation in France saying it’s the biggest cyber attack ever and the result of a swarm of Agentic AI bots.

    Reality: no. It’s a complete lack of security controls and negligent product development by the vendor.

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    #15

    @GossiTheDog "but... but... we couldn't update the security because they were so old." YYSW

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    • ben@bluetoot.hardill.me.ukB ben@bluetoot.hardill.me.uk

      @GossiTheDog Wasn't it the internet connected fridges that let the group into Target years ago?

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      #16

      @ben @GossiTheDog

      No. It was an HVAC system. Same penetration scenario and just as stupid though.

      Lived in an apartment building about 6 blocks from Target headquarters at the time. Lot of Target employees (including IT) lived there.

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      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

        Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

        The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.

        Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.

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        #17

        @GossiTheDog That is harder than password 123456

        https://cybersecuritynews.com/admin-password-danish-data-breach/

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        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

          I’ve seen some breathless reporting in the media about the situation in France saying it’s the biggest cyber attack ever and the result of a swarm of Agentic AI bots.

          Reality: no. It’s a complete lack of security controls and negligent product development by the vendor.

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          #18

          @GossiTheDog oh good another BS phrase corps can use “A.I. did it” so what “artificial washing” now?

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          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

            Also there’s loads of speculation about if it’s Russia, China, Iran.

            It’s likely a bored teen in their underpants in between Roblox sessions. Not a joke.

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            #19

            You can literally recreate it with a single line bash command to apply to the internet in a loop. A write-up on how to defrost the fridges appeared online in August. It’s a zero-skill thing to pull off, I wrote the bash script while having a shit.

            awkwardturing@infosec.exchangeA autolycos@beige.partyA theyosh@mastodon.theyosh.nlT simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG 9 Replies Last reply
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            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

              Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

              The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.

              Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.

              lasse@social.tchncs.deL This user is from outside of this forum
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              #20

              @GossiTheDog which date format, though? My password is four zeros, but I won't tell you in what order 😬

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              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

                The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.

                Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.

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                #21

                @GossiTheDog I was just teaching my young kids about "attack surfaces" lmao and this popped up, right on time. I've long ago banned all IoT trash from this network and we will never look back. This is hilarious, tho.

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                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                  You can literally recreate it with a single line bash command to apply to the internet in a loop. A write-up on how to defrost the fridges appeared online in August. It’s a zero-skill thing to pull off, I wrote the bash script while having a shit.

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                  #22

                  @GossiTheDog that ... gives "internet of shite" a whole new meaning.

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                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                    Also there’s loads of speculation about if it’s Russia, China, Iran.

                    It’s likely a bored teen in their underpants in between Roblox sessions. Not a joke.

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                    #23

                    @GossiTheDog these are those Advanced Persistent Teenagers you warned us about, aren't they?

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                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                      Shodan search: html:danfoss product:"nginx"

                      The supermarket impacted today in France put all of their devices directly internet facing and all had the same password, today’s date.

                      https://beta.shodan.io/search?query=html%3Adanfoss+product%3A%22nginx%22

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                      #24

                      @GossiTheDog Some of these in the U.S. are running super old versions of nginx, and are connected directly to a commercial grade ISP. Sheesh.

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                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                        Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

                        The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.

                        Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.

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                        #25

                        @GossiTheDog How much safer are they if they're behind a NAT router?

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                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                          You can literally recreate it with a single line bash command to apply to the internet in a loop. A write-up on how to defrost the fridges appeared online in August. It’s a zero-skill thing to pull off, I wrote the bash script while having a shit.

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                          @GossiTheDog

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                          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                            You can literally recreate it with a single line bash command to apply to the internet in a loop. A write-up on how to defrost the fridges appeared online in August. It’s a zero-skill thing to pull off, I wrote the bash script while having a shit.

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                            #27

                            @GossiTheDog And... that is why your toilet seat is cleaner than your keyboard or mobile phone 🤣 😎

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                            • scottwilson@infosec.exchangeS scottwilson@infosec.exchange

                              @GossiTheDog Some of these in the U.S. are running super old versions of nginx, and are connected directly to a commercial grade ISP. Sheesh.

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                              #28

                              @scottwilson that’s the vendor supplied version. You’ll find them in food production and such. It’s similar with Windfarms etc, they’re in 5G cell provider ranges in the US.

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                              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

                                The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.

                                Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.

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                                #29
                                @GossiTheDog OMFG this is bad
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                                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                  Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

                                  The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.

                                  Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.

                                  bredroll@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #30

                                  @GossiTheDog JFC!

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                                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                    To bypass login send a POST request to /xml.cgi, there’s a write up here: https://claroty.com/team82/research/freeze-the-controller-defrost-the-food-uncovering-vulnerabilities-in-danfoss-refrigeration-controllers

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                                    #31

                                    @GossiTheDog Is this not what they meant by passwordless authentication? Have you not been entertained!?

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                                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                      You can literally recreate it with a single line bash command to apply to the internet in a loop. A write-up on how to defrost the fridges appeared online in August. It’s a zero-skill thing to pull off, I wrote the bash script while having a shit.

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                                      #32

                                      @GossiTheDog

                                      The jobs not finished until you do the paper work! 😉🤷‍♂️

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                                      • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                                        @GossiTheDog I know we’ve learned that enforced password rotation is bad security practice, but this is a whole other level

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                                        #33

                                        @slothrop @GossiTheDog "We're secure! We have daily password changes!"

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                                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                          Shodan search: html:danfoss product:"nginx"

                                          The supermarket impacted today in France put all of their devices directly internet facing and all had the same password, today’s date.

                                          https://beta.shodan.io/search?query=html%3Adanfoss+product%3A%22nginx%22

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                                          #34

                                          @GossiTheDog This is sad. In the 1 single minute I spent scrolling through the list of thousands....the count increased by one when I hit refresh.

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