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  3. Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.

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  • regguy@mstdn.socialR regguy@mstdn.social

    @mloxton There is an excellent book, "How to Be an Antiracist," by Ibram X. Kendi. Sexism has become a more difficult thing, as in some cases, it's in the eye of the recipient. I take anything like a slight only because they are the opposite sex to be sexism; that goes both ways. I think there is a lot of overt sexism that's easy to spot. If someone is harassing another, that's not necessarily sexism, but certainly harassment, and occurs more toward women than men, to be sure. @bob @vkc

    mloxton@med-mastodon.comM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #82

    @RegGuy
    At risk of flooding out Veronica's voice here (a real risk and also sexism), yeah, the overt "hey you b*tch" stuff is easy to spot.
    More difficult is the coded stuff. Using innocent words to highlight "feminine" vs "masculine" aspects
    Even more difficult is noticing undue focus, undue exclusion, and seemingly automatic assumptions that a woman should be more caring or gentle, or be the default peacemaker, etc.

    It takes a lot of work, persistence, and attention

    @bob @vkc

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    • moondog548@nerdculture.deM moondog548@nerdculture.de

      @Aprazeth
      This is a huge opportunity. We need to learn *and teach eachother* how to call our brothers in when they're out of line.

      We need to know what to do and make it a reflex!
      @alice @vkc

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      #83

      @moondog548 as one of their peers, you can have a huge impact on toxic behavior in 3-5 simple words:

      "Dude, not cool."
      "What the fuck, man?"
      "Hey, that was fucked up."

      Pick whatever variation works best for your peer group, and snap back with it as soon as the bullshit leaves their mouth. Be upset and make it uncomfortable for a moment. Don't let them brush it off as a joke.

      @Aprazeth @vkc

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      • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

        Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.

        Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.

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        #84
        @vkc
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        • alex02@elonsucks.orgA alex02@elonsucks.org

          @vkc no it is not and quite frankly your response is quite obnoxious. If we can't talk about problems collectively on this shithole platform and only talk about one thing at a time than it becomes loose islands among the rest of the sewage, but fine whatever. Thank you for proving my point about how hostile this place is becoming with all you morons whining, but yet do this type of shit. Anyways, enjoy the block. I generally don't care.

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          #85

          @alex02 @vkc what are you even on about 😭

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          • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

            Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.

            Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.

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            #86

            @vkc Goddammit. Men suck (as a man).

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            • aprazeth@mstdn.socialA aprazeth@mstdn.social

              @moondog548 @alice @vkc

              There are differing styles of communication and personalities to take into account, so don't necessarily use these as-is. Adapt to your situation/style/personality

              Some examples to get started (for the edgy remark retorts)

              - Not cool dude
              - that's fucked up
              - ask them to explain what they meant, make them explain their "edgy" stuff

              But above all, be the better example. Support women, POC, LGBTQ, and *believe them* when they call out stuff

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              #87

              @moondog548 @alice @vkc

              And keep in mind: some men will just be monsters. No amount of social pressure or calling out will work on them as they keep making those remarks

              In those instances - ostracize them from your life, and warn others. Do not accept them as "quirky but harmless". Because it will escalate, and will draw in others. That will prompt "but he says it, and it's accepted so I should be able to say it as well"

              > Silence now is implied endorsement later.

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              • moondog548@nerdculture.deM moondog548@nerdculture.de

                @Aprazeth
                This is a huge opportunity. We need to learn *and teach eachother* how to call our brothers in when they're out of line.

                We need to know what to do and make it a reflex!
                @alice @vkc

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                #88

                @moondog548 @alice @vkc

                There are differing styles of communication and personalities to take into account, so don't necessarily use these as-is. Adapt to your situation/style/personality

                Some examples to get started (for the edgy remark retorts)

                - Not cool dude
                - that's fucked up
                - ask them to explain what they meant, make them explain their "edgy" stuff

                But above all, be the better example. Support women, POC, LGBTQ, and *believe them* when they call out stuff

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                • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                  Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.

                  Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.

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                  #89

                  @vkc I’m very sorry to hear this. Just this morning I watched your videos on installing Linux on Chromebooks and comparing standard Mint to Debian Mint (loved the visual REM reference, btw). And a few days ago your video about installing Linux on M1 Macs inspired me to do just that.

                  You’re doing great work, and I really appreciate you being on PeerTube. Thanks much!

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                  • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                    Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.

                    Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.

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                    #90

                    @vkc had some best way not engage ignore block report.

                    if you engage, you already lost.

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                    • mloxton@med-mastodon.comM mloxton@med-mastodon.com

                      @RegGuy
                      At risk of flooding out Veronica's voice here (a real risk and also sexism), yeah, the overt "hey you b*tch" stuff is easy to spot.
                      More difficult is the coded stuff. Using innocent words to highlight "feminine" vs "masculine" aspects
                      Even more difficult is noticing undue focus, undue exclusion, and seemingly automatic assumptions that a woman should be more caring or gentle, or be the default peacemaker, etc.

                      It takes a lot of work, persistence, and attention

                      @bob @vkc

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                      #91

                      @mloxton @RegGuy @vkc

                      I do a lot of coding for the MPAQ network. Sitting here working on other things and wondering if i could build a database/site to collect names@instances that someone sends...

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                      • bob@beamship.mpaq.orgB bob@beamship.mpaq.org

                        @mloxton @RegGuy @vkc

                        I do a lot of coding for the MPAQ network. Sitting here working on other things and wondering if i could build a database/site to collect names@instances that someone sends...

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                        #92

                        @bob
                        There is something like that afaik
                        Not sure if it wound up as an app, but women were circulating a blocklist of known gremlins

                        @RegGuy @vkc

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                        • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                          Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.

                          Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.

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                          #93

                          @vkc

                          I just can send you hugs, and apple pies.

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                          • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                            Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.

                            Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.

                            valen1@mstdn.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #94

                            @vkc Real men understand what consent means. Real men don't treat women like garbage. Real men fight that shit.

                            Be a real man, not garbage who make women uncomfortable to be who they are.

                            #FightThatShit

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                            • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                              Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.

                              Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.

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                              #95

                              @vkc for anyone openly harassing someone on the Fediverse please leave and never come back.

                              Sorry to hear what you are dealing with

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                              • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                                Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.

                                Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.

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                                #96

                                @vkc I’m sorry the grubs are still around 😞

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                                • alex02@elonsucks.orgA alex02@elonsucks.org

                                  @vkc no it is not and quite frankly your response is quite obnoxious. If we can't talk about problems collectively on this shithole platform and only talk about one thing at a time than it becomes loose islands among the rest of the sewage, but fine whatever. Thank you for proving my point about how hostile this place is becoming with all you morons whining, but yet do this type of shit. Anyways, enjoy the block. I generally don't care.

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                                  #97

                                  @alex02 @vkc go to Twitter go to Bluesky. She’s not asking for argument.

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                                  • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                                    Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.

                                    Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.

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                                    #98

                                    @vkc I’m sorry for what you went through. Hope you’re doing ok.

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                                    • mloxton@med-mastodon.comM mloxton@med-mastodon.com

                                      @bob
                                      There is something like that afaik
                                      Not sure if it wound up as an app, but women were circulating a blocklist of known gremlins

                                      @RegGuy @vkc

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                                      #99

                                      @mloxton @RegGuy @vkc

                                      Been searching but no luck finding a site that would let someone "report a bad user"...

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                                      • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                                        Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.

                                        Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.

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                                        #100

                                        @vkc
                                        Gods dang it, fedi. Be better.

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                                        • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                                          Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.

                                          Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.

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                                          #101

                                          @vkc okay, how to take responsibility for fedi culture. Hmm. Sure can look for it and push back, if I happen to see it at the right time, but that seems minimal.
                                          I wonder if anyone has tried setting up a honeypot for sexual harassment?

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