Alright folks, it looks like the #1Password execs aren't budging.
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@ehashman I need to figure out the steps to import/compare with what I have in Apple passwords. And what stuff doesn’t import.
Starting points for me/others.
How much of https://1password.com/compare/apple-passwords-vs-1password is still true, or applies to me.
https://9to5mac.com/2026/02/25/heres-how-to-switch-from-1password-to-apple-passwords/ seems simple:
Export your passwords from 1Password
Open and unlock the 1Password app on your Mac
From the menubar, File > Export and select the account you want to export
Enter your account password
When asked to choose a format, choose CSV and select Export Data
Choose where you want to export your 1Password data and select open
Import your passwords into Apple Passwords
Open the Passwords app and authenticate
From the menubar, File > Import passwords from file
Select the CSV file
Securely delete the CSV file
@becomingwisest @ehashman I did this conversion a few months ago. There are some things different about the way Apple thinks about passwords, so there's stuff to get used to. The process of letting Apple fill the password is clunky. It will keep the url of the site; but you don't see that in the browser extension, so you have two steps where 1P had one. Apple I think won't let you have two different urls on the same site, it trims off all the subfolder stuff.
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@becomingwisest @ehashman I did this conversion a few months ago. There are some things different about the way Apple thinks about passwords, so there's stuff to get used to. The process of letting Apple fill the password is clunky. It will keep the url of the site; but you don't see that in the browser extension, so you have two steps where 1P had one. Apple I think won't let you have two different urls on the same site, it trims off all the subfolder stuff.
@becomingwisest @ehashman Apple will sometimes ask if you want to update the password after you've successfully used a password. Maybe there's something about that I'm not understanding.
Apple's program synchronizes across your devices and family shares. But it takes an unreal amount of time. I changed my work password last week and it took more than 24 hours for the change to propagate fully.
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@becomingwisest @ehashman Apple will sometimes ask if you want to update the password after you've successfully used a password. Maybe there's something about that I'm not understanding.
Apple's program synchronizes across your devices and family shares. But it takes an unreal amount of time. I changed my work password last week and it took more than 24 hours for the change to propagate fully.
@becomingwisest @ehashman But Apple's product is doing what I need it to do, so I'm committed to leaving 1Password behind.
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@becomingwisest @ehashman I did this conversion a few months ago. There are some things different about the way Apple thinks about passwords, so there's stuff to get used to. The process of letting Apple fill the password is clunky. It will keep the url of the site; but you don't see that in the browser extension, so you have two steps where 1P had one. Apple I think won't let you have two different urls on the same site, it trims off all the subfolder stuff.
@becomingwisest @ehashman (Two steps: first open the Passwords app, get the url for the site; open it in your browser; then you might have to open the password extension (Apple wants a 6 digit code) before it will auto-fill).)
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@becomingwisest @ehashman I did this conversion a few months ago. There are some things different about the way Apple thinks about passwords, so there's stuff to get used to. The process of letting Apple fill the password is clunky. It will keep the url of the site; but you don't see that in the browser extension, so you have two steps where 1P had one. Apple I think won't let you have two different urls on the same site, it trims off all the subfolder stuff.
@becomingwisest @ehashman Apple insists on locking the app on a very short interval (a couple of minutes I think) and I haven't found a way to lengthen it. This is annoying if I'm fiddling with my Nextcloud server and have to sudo with the password fairly frequently.
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@csk If you're all in on the Apple ecosystem I hear the password manager is quite nice
@ehashman I'm not quite all-in (Mac laptop + iPad + Android phone), but my work is so skewed towards my laptop that I don't really care if I need to enter passwords manually on other devices. I'll check out Apple Passwords, thanks.
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Alright folks, it looks like the #1Password execs aren't budging. Their co-founder is framing critics of DHH as calling him "evil," saying this is "unfair" and creating a chilling environment. This is a nonsense response to critique of a man who has called for ethnic cleansing. https://www.theverge.com/tech/988536/1password-dhh-linux-controversy
It's time to #Drop1Password. Cancel your subscription and share a screenshot. Tell them why you're cancelling. You will not lose access to your service until your subscription expires, giving the 1Password team the opportunity to reverse their sponsorship and/or you time to migrate.
@ehashman It took us a year to get my mother to learn how to use 1password. I'm not going through that again. So this is going to have to wait. Sure, it's bad, but it's just one of a long list of bad, and it's nowhere close to the top.
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@scott @w_b @ehashman like this? I system admin for my family also. Dont have an issue with password management using keepass.
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Alright folks, it looks like the #1Password execs aren't budging. Their co-founder is framing critics of DHH as calling him "evil," saying this is "unfair" and creating a chilling environment. This is a nonsense response to critique of a man who has called for ethnic cleansing. https://www.theverge.com/tech/988536/1password-dhh-linux-controversy
It's time to #Drop1Password. Cancel your subscription and share a screenshot. Tell them why you're cancelling. You will not lose access to your service until your subscription expires, giving the 1Password team the opportunity to reverse their sponsorship and/or you time to migrate.
@ehashman Guess this means I need to stop procrastinating switching to bitwarden
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Alright folks, it looks like the #1Password execs aren't budging. Their co-founder is framing critics of DHH as calling him "evil," saying this is "unfair" and creating a chilling environment. This is a nonsense response to critique of a man who has called for ethnic cleansing. https://www.theverge.com/tech/988536/1password-dhh-linux-controversy
It's time to #Drop1Password. Cancel your subscription and share a screenshot. Tell them why you're cancelling. You will not lose access to your service until your subscription expires, giving the 1Password team the opportunity to reverse their sponsorship and/or you time to migrate.
@ehashman @Viss I left 1Password in the dust over a year ago, for a variety of reasons that predated any of this drama. It was a pain, because there was no good export/import path, and because there was a lot of really old junk from ten years of use in the database, but an hour or two a day in the evening for a week got it all sorted. I’m glad I went to the effort.
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@ehashman @Viss I left 1Password in the dust over a year ago, for a variety of reasons that predated any of this drama. It was a pain, because there was no good export/import path, and because there was a lot of really old junk from ten years of use in the database, but an hour or two a day in the evening for a week got it all sorted. I’m glad I went to the effort.
@thomasareed @ehashman i started out on 1pw because when i got hired at twitter it was a forced thing. every staff member was made to use it, and it did legitimately raise the bar for attackers. everything went to shit when they started forcing cloud
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@thomasareed @ehashman i started out on 1pw because when i got hired at twitter it was a forced thing. every staff member was made to use it, and it did legitimately raise the bar for attackers. everything went to shit when they started forcing cloud
@Viss @ehashman I got into it for similar reasons… it was used by Malwarebytes when I joined, and a subscription was provided for personal use. Over the years, though, 1Password went downhill - forcing people into their cloud storage, for example, and the enshittification of their browser extension, and the same with their app becoming Electron instead of native code. So when Malwarebytes laid me off after ten years, rather than paying for a 1Password subscription myself for a now crappy product, I switched.
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@scott @w_b @ehashman like this? I system admin for my family also. Dont have an issue with password management using keepass.
https://keepass.info/help/base/multiuser.html@ahhhhhhhhhhh @scott @ehashman
How does that work keeping siblings from accessing other accounts. As a kid, computer accounts weren't a thing (I'm old).
I would not have wanted to share email or other account passwords with my sibs.
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@ahhhhhhhhhhh @scott @ehashman
How does that work keeping siblings from accessing other accounts. As a kid, computer accounts weren't a thing (I'm old).
I would not have wanted to share email or other account passwords with my sibs.
@w_b @scott @ehashman You have a master password and you give passwords to your family to access only certain entries... At least I thought you could do that. I usually throw a keyfile in too so then the service provider I'm using to synchronise can't access the database if they are forced to hand it over by 3 letter agencies.
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@w_b @scott @ehashman You have a master password and you give passwords to your family to access only certain entries... At least I thought you could do that. I usually throw a keyfile in too so then the service provider I'm using to synchronise can't access the database if they are forced to hand it over by 3 letter agencies.
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Alright folks, it looks like the #1Password execs aren't budging. Their co-founder is framing critics of DHH as calling him "evil," saying this is "unfair" and creating a chilling environment. This is a nonsense response to critique of a man who has called for ethnic cleansing. https://www.theverge.com/tech/988536/1password-dhh-linux-controversy
It's time to #Drop1Password. Cancel your subscription and share a screenshot. Tell them why you're cancelling. You will not lose access to your service until your subscription expires, giving the 1Password team the opportunity to reverse their sponsorship and/or you time to migrate.
@ehashman You also don’t lose access when your subscription runs out. Your vaults just become read-only, so can keep them around as you continue to migrate.
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@ehashman Guess this means I need to stop procrastinating switching to bitwarden
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Alright folks, it looks like the #1Password execs aren't budging. Their co-founder is framing critics of DHH as calling him "evil," saying this is "unfair" and creating a chilling environment. This is a nonsense response to critique of a man who has called for ethnic cleansing. https://www.theverge.com/tech/988536/1password-dhh-linux-controversy
It's time to #Drop1Password. Cancel your subscription and share a screenshot. Tell them why you're cancelling. You will not lose access to your service until your subscription expires, giving the 1Password team the opportunity to reverse their sponsorship and/or you time to migrate.
@ehashman and do mention not only the direct fash thing with DHH, but also that 1password is committing “AI” slop into their software
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