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If your website doesn’t load in under 3 seconds* on an expensive phone in The Software Town, you did it wrong.

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  • fugueish@wandering.shopF fugueish@wandering.shop

    If your website doesn’t load in under 3 seconds* on an expensive phone in The Software Town, you did it wrong. Yes, this means every social media company and every newspaper are doing it wrong. I said what I said

    *The true quality bar is 0.5 seconds, but I’m feeling unreasonably generous today

    nonnihil@hachyderm.ioN This user is from outside of this forum
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    #17

    @fugueish
    When I worked on storefront navigation software, even fucking _BassPro_ SLA'd 83 milliseconds at the 90th percentile.
    Giving people three digits of milliseconds is already surrender.

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    • fugueish@wandering.shopF fugueish@wandering.shop

      If your website doesn’t load in under 3 seconds* on an expensive phone in The Software Town, you did it wrong. Yes, this means every social media company and every newspaper are doing it wrong. I said what I said

      *The true quality bar is 0.5 seconds, but I’m feeling unreasonably generous today

      mathew@universeodon.comM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #18

      @fugueish I went to a meetup of local web developers. At some point I told them my web site URL, and a couple of them pulled it up on their phones, and asked how on earth I got it to load so quickly and what hosting I was using to get that kind of performance. ($4 a month VPS, Debian and caddy.)

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      • nonnihil@hachyderm.ioN nonnihil@hachyderm.io

        @fugueish
        When I worked on storefront navigation software, even fucking _BassPro_ SLA'd 83 milliseconds at the 90th percentile.
        Giving people three digits of milliseconds is already surrender.

        nh@mastodon.gamedev.placeN This user is from outside of this forum
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        #19

        @nonnihil @fugueish Hear, hear. If the raw network latency is under 20ms, you should be able to do <100ms navigation overall.

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        • nh@mastodon.gamedev.placeN nh@mastodon.gamedev.place

          @nonnihil @fugueish Hear, hear. If the raw network latency is under 20ms, you should be able to do <100ms navigation overall.

          nh@mastodon.gamedev.placeN This user is from outside of this forum
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          #20

          @nonnihil @fugueish And quite frankly, if your site is genuinely an "app" (as in, something that you expect people to work productively in for an extended amount of time), the quality bar should be offline first to the point where virtually all tasks respond within one or two frames (~30ms).

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          • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

            @emma @fugueish It's the metastasized version of "HTML isn't coding" plus "code is a good thing, the more code the better!" brainrot.

            You need a justification for telling clients they're paying 💸 for "website development" and not just writing and graphic design.

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            #21

            @dalias @fugueish this is where I say that React is a full employment scheme for men graduating from CSE programs at elite schools.

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            • mathew@universeodon.comM mathew@universeodon.com

              @fugueish I went to a meetup of local web developers. At some point I told them my web site URL, and a couple of them pulled it up on their phones, and asked how on earth I got it to load so quickly and what hosting I was using to get that kind of performance. ($4 a month VPS, Debian and caddy.)

              fugueish@wandering.shopF This user is from outside of this forum
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              #22

              @mathew Yep 🙂 “How did I get it so fast? I did way less work”

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              • fugueish@wandering.shopF fugueish@wandering.shop

                If your website doesn’t load in under 3 seconds* on an expensive phone in The Software Town, you did it wrong. Yes, this means every social media company and every newspaper are doing it wrong. I said what I said

                *The true quality bar is 0.5 seconds, but I’m feeling unreasonably generous today

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                #23

                @fugueish yep I want the WWW of 1997 with the ISP uplinks of 2026

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                • fugueish@wandering.shopF fugueish@wandering.shop

                  If your website doesn’t load in under 3 seconds* on an expensive phone in The Software Town, you did it wrong. Yes, this means every social media company and every newspaper are doing it wrong. I said what I said

                  *The true quality bar is 0.5 seconds, but I’m feeling unreasonably generous today

                  netzblockierer@tech.lgbtN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #24

                  @fugueish I'd say every website that doesn't work on Lynx Browser over Iridium or Tor Browser with disabled JavaScript over 2G should be banned from existing it's developers forced to fix it!

                  • Anything else is too much lenience for Enshittification…
                    • Seriously, stuff like FrogFind should be unnecessary to begin with!!!

                  #Sarcasm #Commentary #LynxBrowser #TorBrowser #2G #Tor #Iridium #Narrowband #FrogFind #JS #JavaScript #AntiJS #AntiJavascriptAction #Malware #Bloatware #Enshittification

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                  • emma@orbital.horseE emma@orbital.horse

                    @dalias @fugueish this is where I say that React is a full employment scheme for men graduating from CSE programs at elite schools.

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                    #25

                    @emma @dalias @fugueish and I'm sick and tired of this shit!

                    I'd want Bloatware and Malware like that outlawed for being Wasteful Computing…

                    https://tech.lgbt/@Netzblockierer/116700073951828009

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                    • fugueish@wandering.shopF fugueish@wandering.shop

                      If your website doesn’t load in under 3 seconds* on an expensive phone in The Software Town, you did it wrong. Yes, this means every social media company and every newspaper are doing it wrong. I said what I said

                      *The true quality bar is 0.5 seconds, but I’m feeling unreasonably generous today

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                      #26

                      @fugueish If your website doesn’t load in under 2 seconds on an a shitty 4 year old phone phone in anywhere I have at least 3 bars of 5G, you did it wrong.

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                      • solonovamax@tech.lgbtS solonovamax@tech.lgbt

                        @fugueish If your website doesn’t load in under 2 seconds on an a shitty 4 year old phone phone in anywhere I have at least 3 bars of 5G, you did it wrong.

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                        #27

                        @fugueish I am also being generous with 3 bars of 5G and only a 4 year old device.

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