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  • jimijamflimflam@mstdn.socialJ jimijamflimflam@mstdn.social

    I used to play with those as a kid. We called them jarts (or lawn darts). They disappeared for some reason. 🤔

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawn_darts

    @jackryder @cR0w

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    #64

    @Jimijamflimflam @jackryder No fun allowed.

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    • jimijamflimflam@mstdn.socialJ jimijamflimflam@mstdn.social

      I used to play with those as a kid. We called them jarts (or lawn darts). They disappeared for some reason. 🤔

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawn_darts

      @jackryder @cR0w

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      #65

      @Jimijamflimflam
      We had some when I was younger. Bright colored plastic death sticks were the best!

      @cR0w

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      • futuristicrobert@infosec.exchangeF futuristicrobert@infosec.exchange

        @Viss @cR0w @krypt3ia there are always exceptions. Case in point. 🙂

        I'm casting a broad net.

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        #66

        @FuturisticRobert @Viss @cR0w The real problem is that at the rate of conglomeration (like an ourboros) of security companies, being a rogue small outfit kinda puts you on the back heel and almost having to ambulance chase.

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        • futuristicrobert@infosec.exchangeF futuristicrobert@infosec.exchange

          @cR0w @krypt3ia @Viss

          THIS!!!

          Security isn't profitable. Line doesn't go up unless you're an ambulance cha.... I mean "security vendor."

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          #67

          @FuturisticRobert @cR0w @krypt3ia @Viss <compliance hat on>
          The reason security isn't 'profitable' is because the penalty for leaking the PII including SSNs of 147 million people is less than one half of one quarter's profit.

          And if it doesn't make headlines and you had all the required disclosures in place, it's $0.

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          • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

            @drwho Sure. Go nuts. 🙂

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            #68

            @cR0w Thank you very much.

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            • rootwyrm@weird.autosR rootwyrm@weird.autos

              @FuturisticRobert @cR0w @krypt3ia @Viss <compliance hat on>
              The reason security isn't 'profitable' is because the penalty for leaking the PII including SSNs of 147 million people is less than one half of one quarter's profit.

              And if it doesn't make headlines and you had all the required disclosures in place, it's $0.

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              #69

              @rootwyrm @FuturisticRobert @cR0w @Viss Losing data is all the rage now.

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              • krypt3ia@infosec.exchangeK krypt3ia@infosec.exchange

                @FuturisticRobert @Viss @cR0w The real problem is that at the rate of conglomeration (like an ourboros) of security companies, being a rogue small outfit kinda puts you on the back heel and almost having to ambulance chase.

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                #70

                @krypt3ia @Viss @cR0w

                And when all the big conglomo's own the security companies, each will offer up in-depth reports on the glaring vulnerabilities of the other guys while saying nothing when they themselves have a zero day. Looking at #google, #microsoft (#microslop), et al.

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                • futuristicrobert@infosec.exchangeF futuristicrobert@infosec.exchange

                  @krypt3ia @Viss @cR0w

                  And when all the big conglomo's own the security companies, each will offer up in-depth reports on the glaring vulnerabilities of the other guys while saying nothing when they themselves have a zero day. Looking at #google, #microsoft (#microslop), et al.

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                  #71

                  @FuturisticRobert @krypt3ia @Viss You mean like Fortinet has done for the past however many years?

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                  • krypt3ia@infosec.exchangeK krypt3ia@infosec.exchange

                    @rootwyrm @FuturisticRobert @cR0w @Viss Losing data is all the rage now.

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                    #72

                    @krypt3ia @FuturisticRobert @cR0w @Viss well of course, it's basically free PR. Not like you're going to be fined. Company just taps the one-off legal cost of writing up the sign and their 'legal obligations have been met.

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                    • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                      @FuturisticRobert @krypt3ia @Viss You mean like Fortinet has done for the past however many years?

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                      #73

                      @cR0w @FuturisticRobert @Viss There is only one answer, leave the cybers, go off grid, make your own food, and herd sheep.

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                      • krypt3ia@infosec.exchangeK krypt3ia@infosec.exchange

                        @cR0w @FuturisticRobert @Viss There is only one answer, leave the cybers, go off grid, make your own food, and herd sheep.

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                        #74

                        @krypt3ia @FuturisticRobert @Viss I'M TRYING

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                        • rootwyrm@weird.autosR rootwyrm@weird.autos

                          @FuturisticRobert @cR0w @krypt3ia @Viss <compliance hat on>
                          The reason security isn't 'profitable' is because the penalty for leaking the PII including SSNs of 147 million people is less than one half of one quarter's profit.

                          And if it doesn't make headlines and you had all the required disclosures in place, it's $0.

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                          @rootwyrm @cR0w @krypt3ia @Viss

                          louder for the people in the back. 🙂

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                          • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                            "AI is giving attackers a huge advantage!"

                            "Yes, it is. It's amazing how quickly it has destroyed dev, sec, ops, management, company missions and priorities, regulations, information literacy, and civil society, making everyone more vulnerable."

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                            @cR0w it's a virus.

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                            • mustardfacial@infosec.exchangeM mustardfacial@infosec.exchange

                              @cR0w @jackryder Asbestos in brake pads and lead in paint did improve the product though. If they weren't so horriffic to human health, we would still be using them. Conversely, I've yet to see an instance where AI has actually improved anything. At best it lets people who are mediocre at their jobs output a higher quantity of mediocre work.

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                              #77

                              @Mustardfacial @cR0w @jackryder

                              That's the general idea, yes.

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                              • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                                @krypt3ia @FuturisticRobert @Viss I'M TRYING

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                                #78

                                @cR0w @krypt3ia @Viss in my fantasy world I'm retired living in a cabin somewhere, when one day someone from my past interrupts me while I'm out chopping wood saying "we need you back. Something's happened."

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                                • futuristicrobert@infosec.exchangeF futuristicrobert@infosec.exchange

                                  @cR0w @krypt3ia @Viss in my fantasy world I'm retired living in a cabin somewhere, when one day someone from my past interrupts me while I'm out chopping wood saying "we need you back. Something's happened."

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                                  #79

                                  @FuturisticRobert @krypt3ia @Viss ...and I'll look down and whisper 'No.'

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                                  • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                                    @FuturisticRobert @krypt3ia @Viss ...and I'll look down and whisper 'No.'

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                                    #80

                                    @cR0w @FuturisticRobert @Viss Exactly

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                                    • adamdavis@mastodon.socialA adamdavis@mastodon.social

                                      @cR0w
                                      It briefly amazed me, now it just dismays me. I work for the government. Almost all our management and about half the devs are all-in for AI. I'm older and more sceptical. I've seen a few silver bullets fly by in the past, and I don't have much desire to rearrange my job to prompting, reviewing, and hoping the AI code turns out okay. I should be able to hold out until retirement, but younger folks don't have that luxury.

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                                      #81

                                      @AdamDavis @cR0w

                                      Yeah and we're gonna "retire" as they crash the markets and decide all the social security we've paid is theirs not ours

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                                      • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                                        @FuturisticRobert @krypt3ia @Viss ...and I'll look down and whisper 'No.'

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                                        #82

                                        @cR0w @FuturisticRobert @krypt3ia samesies, except nobody knows where the fuck i am and they never find me, and i spend my days cruising around the forest with a gnarly macro insect camera setup taking pictures of bugs and doing light maintenance on my zero carbon natural gas, water, solar/wind and sodium battery setups

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                                        • futuristicrobert@infosec.exchangeF futuristicrobert@infosec.exchange

                                          @cR0w @krypt3ia @Viss in my fantasy world I'm retired living in a cabin somewhere, when one day someone from my past interrupts me while I'm out chopping wood saying "we need you back. Something's happened."

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                                          @FuturisticRobert @cR0w @krypt3ia @Viss no shit. My hourly rate starts at 400 an hour, minimum of 4 hours.

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