Trump is emboldened and dangerous.
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@steter @chris Pedantic but important:
removal via Impeachement is via both House and Senate, and likely Supreme court knowng Trump always sues.removal via 25th amendment is 2 ways:
House/Senate but can be appealed by President.
House/Senate and VP signing 25th amendment can't be appealed by the demented guy.Note: you can't prove dementia, at least not until Trump becomes violent when a wo;k leader stands up to him. (we know nobody in USA dares stand up against Trump out of fear of retribution). World leaders worry about tariffs if they stand up to Trump. I am affraid Trump has the cards, until he loses it and gets violent on TV.
@jfmezei @chris He's been impeached twice. The Senate holds the power in this country. They can stop this on any day that ends in a y. They don't need another goddamned piece of paper from a TV spectacle to get there, but the House will oblige if the Senate would DO ITS FUCKING JOB.
Make up your minds, senators. It's your child raping cult, or the people who now see you for the scum you are, with more guns than there are humans, and considerably more bullets.
We are armed to the teeth, here, in America, where a federal government Proud Boy goon shot a woman in the face 4 fucking times at point-blank range, then called her a "fucking bitch."
End of civics lecture.
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Trump is emboldened and dangerous. Now he says Russia or China will take #Greenland if the USA doesn't.
Americans.
Please.
This man is unwell.
Protest in the streets until he leaves. Do it for yourself and your country, but also for the safety of the world.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/09/trump-greenland-threats-white-house
@chris he's definitely unwell, among many other horrible things, but he's part of the larger plan laid out by neoliberals remaking the world order.
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@jfmezei @chris He's been impeached twice. The Senate holds the power in this country. They can stop this on any day that ends in a y. They don't need another goddamned piece of paper from a TV spectacle to get there, but the House will oblige if the Senate would DO ITS FUCKING JOB.
Make up your minds, senators. It's your child raping cult, or the people who now see you for the scum you are, with more guns than there are humans, and considerably more bullets.
We are armed to the teeth, here, in America, where a federal government Proud Boy goon shot a woman in the face 4 fucking times at point-blank range, then called her a "fucking bitch."
End of civics lecture.
@steter @chris I am curious onthe definition of "impeached". yes, the Orange Outang was charged with crimes and misdemeanors twice, but Senate found him not guilty, so once Senate rejects the charges, can he still be called "impeached" ?
(Clinton was charged for lying about having sex in the oval office and Senate failed to convict, yet they still sayd "impeached".).
The fact that the Ourang Outang was re-elected despite mounting insurection and total disrespect for law, stealing confidential docs etc essentially voids all those accusations (which was Trump,s goal in running again). And with Supreme court declaring his has immunity while president, Shirley you should expect him to take advantage of this 4 years "get out of jail" card ?
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@steter @chris I am curious onthe definition of "impeached". yes, the Orange Outang was charged with crimes and misdemeanors twice, but Senate found him not guilty, so once Senate rejects the charges, can he still be called "impeached" ?
(Clinton was charged for lying about having sex in the oval office and Senate failed to convict, yet they still sayd "impeached".).
The fact that the Ourang Outang was re-elected despite mounting insurection and total disrespect for law, stealing confidential docs etc essentially voids all those accusations (which was Trump,s goal in running again). And with Supreme court declaring his has immunity while president, Shirley you should expect him to take advantage of this 4 years "get out of jail" card ?
@jfmezei @chris Impeachment occurs in the House. It is an official notice to the Senate that they want the POTUS removed. The Senate then votes on whether to remove POTUS.
Joe Biden chose to not provide the Senate with evidence from the impeachment, and the Senate, in Republican hands anyway, rejected both impeachments by the House.
The removal from office occurs after impeachment.
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@steter @chris I am curious onthe definition of "impeached". yes, the Orange Outang was charged with crimes and misdemeanors twice, but Senate found him not guilty, so once Senate rejects the charges, can he still be called "impeached" ?
(Clinton was charged for lying about having sex in the oval office and Senate failed to convict, yet they still sayd "impeached".).
The fact that the Ourang Outang was re-elected despite mounting insurection and total disrespect for law, stealing confidential docs etc essentially voids all those accusations (which was Trump,s goal in running again). And with Supreme court declaring his has immunity while president, Shirley you should expect him to take advantage of this 4 years "get out of jail" card ?
@jfmezei @steter @chris The House of Representatives brings articles of impeachment (basically bringing charges) against the president. Then they refer it to the Senate, which holds a trial. After the trial, the Senate votes to convict or not. If convicted, the president is removed from office and may also subsequently be barred from future federal office.
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@jfmezei @steter @chris The House of Representatives brings articles of impeachment (basically bringing charges) against the president. Then they refer it to the Senate, which holds a trial. After the trial, the Senate votes to convict or not. If convicted, the president is removed from office and may also subsequently be barred from future federal office.
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@tiamat271 @steter @chris If I am accused of stealing a chocolate bar, and a court finds me not guilty after I provide evidence (the invoice), I can no longer be called "guilty of stealing a chocolate bar".
That is why I am curious why the House accusation sticks around after Senate find the president "not guilty".
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@tiamat271 @steter @chris If I am accused of stealing a chocolate bar, and a court finds me not guilty after I provide evidence (the invoice), I can no longer be called "guilty of stealing a chocolate bar".
That is why I am curious why the House accusation sticks around after Senate find the president "not guilty".
@jfmezei @tiamat271 @chris It doesn't. As I said, anytime the Senate signals it wants to do something, the House will impeach him again. It could happen before the midterms. It definitely will happen after them.
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@tiamat271 @steter @chris If I am accused of stealing a chocolate bar, and a court finds me not guilty after I provide evidence (the invoice), I can no longer be called "guilty of stealing a chocolate bar".
That is why I am curious why the House accusation sticks around after Senate find the president "not guilty".
@jfmezei @steter @chris it’s kind of like being charged or indicted. No matter the outcome, the historical record of your being charged or indicted remains. So the statement, “you have been charged with candy bar theft twice” is still factual, even with no conviction. In addition, the impeachment and removal process is not a criminal proceeding, it’s a political procedure, so it doesn’t follow the same rules/procedures as a criminal trial.
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@jfmezei @steter @chris it’s kind of like being charged or indicted. No matter the outcome, the historical record of your being charged or indicted remains. So the statement, “you have been charged with candy bar theft twice” is still factual, even with no conviction. In addition, the impeachment and removal process is not a criminal proceeding, it’s a political procedure, so it doesn’t follow the same rules/procedures as a criminal trial.
@jfmezei @steter @chris Another reason that it’s a notable thing to mention is that impeachment is such a rare occurrence (and removal even more so…it’s never happened in our history) and trump is the only pres ever to be impeached multiple times. As a result, it’s an important political and historical event, even without conviction in the Senate. Not sure if I’m explaining things well, I hope that helps. It’s a pretty complicated system.
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@jfmezei @steter @chris Another reason that it’s a notable thing to mention is that impeachment is such a rare occurrence (and removal even more so…it’s never happened in our history) and trump is the only pres ever to be impeached multiple times. As a result, it’s an important political and historical event, even without conviction in the Senate. Not sure if I’m explaining things well, I hope that helps. It’s a pretty complicated system.
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@jfmezei @steter @chris Another reason that it’s a notable thing to mention is that impeachment is such a rare occurrence (and removal even more so…it’s never happened in our history) and trump is the only pres ever to be impeached multiple times. As a result, it’s an important political and historical event, even without conviction in the Senate. Not sure if I’m explaining things well, I hope that helps. It’s a pretty complicated system.
In the "everyone is considered innocent until proven guilty,", if Senate fails to find the president guilty, shouldn't he be consiodered innocent and should not have rest of his life impaired by the "false" accusations ?
Outside of the MAGA cult, everyone knows Trump is guilty, but honouring rule of law means we have to honour the Senate's judgement judt as we have to respect that the American population democratically elected a mafia boss.
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