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  3. After the #Mullvad scandal a lot of folks had been looking around for a VPN provider they can trust.

After the #Mullvad scandal a lot of folks had been looking around for a VPN provider they can trust.

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  • mattesilver@101010.plM mattesilver@101010.pl

    @rysiek

    rent a VPS in Spain for 1.20€/month

    find an IT nerd acquaintance, let them set up wireguard for you

    (edit: VPN->VPS)

    @activistchecklist

    rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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    #10

    @mattesilver I assume you mean "VPS".

    Also, with that you end up with a single exit point in a single country, and the exit IP address is tied to you specifically via your payment.

    Not anywhere even close to what is discussed in that link. Giving advice like that will cause people to end up in harm's way.

    @activistchecklist

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    • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

      After the #Mullvad scandal a lot of folks had been looking around for a VPN provider they can trust.

      The wonderful @activistchecklist got you covered there:
      https://activistchecklist.org/vpn/

      Not only does it list recommended VPNs and reasons for their recommendation (along with those they don't recommend, and why), but also explains what VPNs are good for, what they are not good for, and why giving VPN advice is so hard.

      Clearly a lot of research, care, and thoughtful design went into this.

      #VPN

      maddad@mastodon.worldM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #11

      @rysiek @activistchecklist

      There is no mention of Nord here that I could see. I wonder what they rated it.

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      • maddad@mastodon.worldM maddad@mastodon.world

        @rysiek @activistchecklist

        There is no mention of Nord here that I could see. I wonder what they rated it.

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        #12

        @maddad @activistchecklist there is. In the not recommended section.

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        • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

          @maddad @activistchecklist there is. In the not recommended section.

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          #13

          @rysiek @activistchecklist

          I see it now... crap I've been using it for over 10 years now...

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          • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

            After the #Mullvad scandal a lot of folks had been looking around for a VPN provider they can trust.

            The wonderful @activistchecklist got you covered there:
            https://activistchecklist.org/vpn/

            Not only does it list recommended VPNs and reasons for their recommendation (along with those they don't recommend, and why), but also explains what VPNs are good for, what they are not good for, and why giving VPN advice is so hard.

            Clearly a lot of research, care, and thoughtful design went into this.

            #VPN

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            #14

            @rysiek What's wrong with Mullvad? It's one of the only VPN companies that takes XMR, has absolutely 0 KYC, and... works. Their Mullvad Browser is genuinely great work, and helped me move off arkenfox.

            Mullvad is genuinely doing things right, and I'll continue to reward them with my custom

            EDIT: I genuinely couldn't care less what their co-founders political support is, it's shameful to kick a company that's doing so well by online anonymity, privacy, activism

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            • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

              After the #Mullvad scandal a lot of folks had been looking around for a VPN provider they can trust.

              The wonderful @activistchecklist got you covered there:
              https://activistchecklist.org/vpn/

              Not only does it list recommended VPNs and reasons for their recommendation (along with those they don't recommend, and why), but also explains what VPNs are good for, what they are not good for, and why giving VPN advice is so hard.

              Clearly a lot of research, care, and thoughtful design went into this.

              #VPN

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              #15

              @rysiek This is a great resources, thanks for sharing. Now that Mullvad is out of the equation, I had come to the same conclusion on an alternate.

              Alas, I can only regenerate, rather than disable, the advertising ID on my Android build. Will be glancing through the other recommendations to make sure I have everything covered though.

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                #16

                @pictor @rysiek Mullvad's ethical standards are top notch as far as I'm concerned. Sustained support for anti-Chat Control, age-verification and censorship legislation is one of my top priorities. Mullvad has a stellar record on all of those

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                • mattesilver@101010.plM mattesilver@101010.pl

                  @rysiek

                  rent a VPS in Spain for 1.20€/month

                  find an IT nerd acquaintance, let them set up wireguard for you

                  (edit: VPN->VPS)

                  @activistchecklist

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                  #17

                  @mattesilver @rysiek @activistchecklist

                  Yes wireguard is a great option, but if you are in a country like China, Russia or Iran, you should use OpenVPN. Do a search to find out why 🙂

                  @activistchecklist

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                  • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                    After the #Mullvad scandal a lot of folks had been looking around for a VPN provider they can trust.

                    The wonderful @activistchecklist got you covered there:
                    https://activistchecklist.org/vpn/

                    Not only does it list recommended VPNs and reasons for their recommendation (along with those they don't recommend, and why), but also explains what VPNs are good for, what they are not good for, and why giving VPN advice is so hard.

                    Clearly a lot of research, care, and thoughtful design went into this.

                    #VPN

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                    #18

                    @rysiek @activistchecklist if anybody needs a 2nd advice, check this

                    https://www.kuketz-blog.de/empfehlenswerte-vpn-alternativen-zu-mullvad-und-proton/

                    It is in German, but machine translation works well nowadays...

                    @kuketzblog #vpn #mullvad #proton #protonvpn #MullvadVPN #vpncomparison

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                    • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                      After the #Mullvad scandal a lot of folks had been looking around for a VPN provider they can trust.

                      The wonderful @activistchecklist got you covered there:
                      https://activistchecklist.org/vpn/

                      Not only does it list recommended VPNs and reasons for their recommendation (along with those they don't recommend, and why), but also explains what VPNs are good for, what they are not good for, and why giving VPN advice is so hard.

                      Clearly a lot of research, care, and thoughtful design went into this.

                      #VPN

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                      #19

                      @rysiek

                      - https://embed.kumu.io/9ced55e897e74fd807be51990b26b415#vpn-company-relationships
                      - https://www.privacyguides.org/en/vpn/
                      - https://tools.techlore.tech/#vpnproviders
                      - https://tools.techlore.tech/#vpn-providers
                      - https://privacytools.io/privacy-vpn
                      - https://www.rebeltechalliance.org/vpn.html

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                      • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                        After the #Mullvad scandal a lot of folks had been looking around for a VPN provider they can trust.

                        The wonderful @activistchecklist got you covered there:
                        https://activistchecklist.org/vpn/

                        Not only does it list recommended VPNs and reasons for their recommendation (along with those they don't recommend, and why), but also explains what VPNs are good for, what they are not good for, and why giving VPN advice is so hard.

                        Clearly a lot of research, care, and thoughtful design went into this.

                        #VPN

                        stardust@fosstodon.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #20

                        @rysiek @activistchecklist Yet again, without fail everything that touches crypto turns to shit.

                        #CryptoCultScience

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                        • samuel@social.whatshouldyoueat.comS samuel@social.whatshouldyoueat.com

                          @rysiek @activistchecklist proton is plagued by the same issues as mullvad, a fascist ceo, why don't they remove that option,  i wonder?

                          not to mention proton *has* in fact handed over customer data and PII to governments in the past,  so especially for the activistchecklist it is questionable

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                          #21

                          @samuel @rysiek @activistchecklist

                          He's not a fascist CEO. That whole thing was WAY overblown by folks. I'm linking a post on Medium that takes a pretty deep dive on that whole thing. Unfortunately people just keep repeating it without explaining or knowing the details.

                          As for them handing over customer data, again, any company is going to hand over the data required by laws. The question is, what data do they have stored that could be a problem. Activists can use free accounts for Proton services and never provide any payment information which has been the main issue in various cases.

                          https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e

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                          • samuel@social.whatshouldyoueat.comS samuel@social.whatshouldyoueat.com

                            @rysiek @activistchecklist proton is plagued by the same issues as mullvad, a fascist ceo, why don't they remove that option,  i wonder?

                            not to mention proton *has* in fact handed over customer data and PII to governments in the past,  so especially for the activistchecklist it is questionable

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                            #22

                            @samuel@social.whatshouldyoueat.com @activistchecklist@kolektiva.social @rysiek@mstdn.social i personally trust windscribe WAY more than proton
                            they also have pretty good free plan
                            and they don't do any ad campaigns to spread the service
                            and they support anonymous payment, down to even cash-by-mail as a last resort, iirc, also crypto, and completely anonymous "hashed" accounts that do not have an email or password, just a magic token
                            and apparently their ceo got in trouble w greek courts but the "no logs" held through (and has had some sort of audit)

                            tho the normal price for paid plans is a bit too high for me personally, they do honor discounted prices for however long you keep paying for, if you get one

                            but one of the times i've mentioned it, someone raised some negative points too, i forget what, but i guess they're not flawless either, i do remember it wasn't entirely baseless tho

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                            • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                              After the #Mullvad scandal a lot of folks had been looking around for a VPN provider they can trust.

                              The wonderful @activistchecklist got you covered there:
                              https://activistchecklist.org/vpn/

                              Not only does it list recommended VPNs and reasons for their recommendation (along with those they don't recommend, and why), but also explains what VPNs are good for, what they are not good for, and why giving VPN advice is so hard.

                              Clearly a lot of research, care, and thoughtful design went into this.

                              #VPN

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                              #23

                              @rysiek @activistchecklist

                              Love it super site highly recommend 💚

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                              • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                After the #Mullvad scandal a lot of folks had been looking around for a VPN provider they can trust.

                                The wonderful @activistchecklist got you covered there:
                                https://activistchecklist.org/vpn/

                                Not only does it list recommended VPNs and reasons for their recommendation (along with those they don't recommend, and why), but also explains what VPNs are good for, what they are not good for, and why giving VPN advice is so hard.

                                Clearly a lot of research, care, and thoughtful design went into this.

                                #VPN

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                                #24

                                @rysiek @activistchecklist what scandal, the donation?

                                Have you read Daniel's statement about it? https://dberntsson.info/2026/07/20/orebropartiet/

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                                  #25

                                  @pictor @rysiek compromised cybersec wise? Is this the leaked account_id debacle?

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                                    #26

                                    @pictor @rysiek

                                    > Their VPN technology is still the best out there, but one of their co-founders recently ruined their stellar reputation by donating hundreds of thousands of dollars to a far-right political party in Sweden.

                                    Idk if I'd call ÖP a far right party, they're a hodgepodge of everything imo. Mullvad doesn't support them, and what their co-founders choose to do with their money is none of my concern (as long as it's legal).

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                                    • dynom@toot.communityD dynom@toot.community

                                      @rysiek @activistchecklist what scandal, the donation?

                                      Have you read Daniel's statement about it? https://dberntsson.info/2026/07/20/orebropartiet/

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                                      #27

                                      @dynom @activistchecklist ah yes the "I support the xenophobic fascist party because I want the mainstream parties to feel the pain, and besides they will never gain power" BS.

                                      That has never backfired, ever. 🙄

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                                      • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                        @dynom @activistchecklist ah yes the "I support the xenophobic fascist party because I want the mainstream parties to feel the pain, and besides they will never gain power" BS.

                                        That has never backfired, ever. 🙄

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                                        #28

                                        @rysiek @activistchecklist ditching an entire Service Provider because someone of the team does things that don't align with your world views will narrow the scope of things you can use significantly.

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                                        • dynom@toot.communityD dynom@toot.community

                                          @rysiek @activistchecklist ditching an entire Service Provider because someone of the team does things that don't align with your world views will narrow the scope of things you can use significantly.

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                                          #29

                                          @dynom @activistchecklist this is not "someone from the team", this is a co-founder and an owner of 50% of the company. Your attempt at rhetorical minimization is noted though.

                                          This means that some non-trivial amount of money paid to Mullvad ends up in his pocket, and some of that money then goes to support a fascist xenophobic political party.

                                          That's a direct enough link between my wallet and a fascist party's bank account for me to never pay any money to Mullvad.

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