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  3. Todd C. Miller has been maintaining the #sudo codebase for over 30 years.

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    Todd C. Miller has been maintaining the #sudo codebase for over 30 years. This is exactly one of those cases where an entire critical infrastructure is held together by the work of a single volunteer who apparently can’t find anyone willing to sponsor him for some financial support. #opensource #linux #foss #GNU

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    • pafurijaz@mastodon.socialP pafurijaz@mastodon.social

      Todd C. Miller has been maintaining the #sudo codebase for over 30 years. This is exactly one of those cases where an entire critical infrastructure is held together by the work of a single volunteer who apparently can’t find anyone willing to sponsor him for some financial support. #opensource #linux #foss #GNU

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      @pafurijaz Half the point of #FOSS (or more than half, for a lot of people) is the "free as in beer" element. If they were willing to pay for things, they'd be in the Windows or Mac walled gardens. That's just the reality of the situation. Create a tool for everyone, and everyone will use it until they need to pay up.

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      • pafurijaz@mastodon.socialP pafurijaz@mastodon.social

        Todd C. Miller has been maintaining the #sudo codebase for over 30 years. This is exactly one of those cases where an entire critical infrastructure is held together by the work of a single volunteer who apparently can’t find anyone willing to sponsor him for some financial support. #opensource #linux #foss #GNU

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        @pafurijaz Hey @sovtechfund, do you have any idea how to help here? Sudo really is critical (perhaps the most criticial not under team maintenance)

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          @spacehobo @pafurijaz It did.

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          • pafurijaz@mastodon.socialP pafurijaz@mastodon.social

            Todd C. Miller has been maintaining the #sudo codebase for over 30 years. This is exactly one of those cases where an entire critical infrastructure is held together by the work of a single volunteer who apparently can’t find anyone willing to sponsor him for some financial support. #opensource #linux #foss #GNU

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            @pafurijaz This needs to be seen. are people seeing it on twitter or somewhere?

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            • pafurijaz@mastodon.socialP pafurijaz@mastodon.social

              Todd C. Miller has been maintaining the #sudo codebase for over 30 years. This is exactly one of those cases where an entire critical infrastructure is held together by the work of a single volunteer who apparently can’t find anyone willing to sponsor him for some financial support. #opensource #linux #foss #GNU

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              #6

              @pafurijaz Do you remember the SSH rooting contests from the 90s? At that time they would provide you the root password on the idea that if you could achieve unauthorized access to the machine across the network, a simple privilege escalation was trivial. Nowadays, that's no longer true, thanks to this hard work. I'll admit I take that level of security for granted these days.

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              • andibarth@muenchen.socialA andibarth@muenchen.social

                @pafurijaz Hey @sovtechfund, do you have any idea how to help here? Sudo really is critical (perhaps the most criticial not under team maintenance)

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                @AndiBarth @pafurijaz @sovtechfund

                Sponsorship may be the best way, but I'm doubtful that interested users can take on that big of a role and cash... but I would certainly contribute if there was an alternative way to do something financially. Is there anything already available for donations, like KoFi, GoFundMe, or similar?

                @sudoproject is on Mastodon, so perhaps Todd or someone can point to whatever might be out there already.

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                • pafurijaz@mastodon.socialP pafurijaz@mastodon.social

                  Todd C. Miller has been maintaining the #sudo codebase for over 30 years. This is exactly one of those cases where an entire critical infrastructure is held together by the work of a single volunteer who apparently can’t find anyone willing to sponsor him for some financial support. #opensource #linux #foss #GNU

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                  @pafurijaz and people shit talk sudo allot cause its bloated...

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                  • pafurijaz@mastodon.socialP pafurijaz@mastodon.social

                    Todd C. Miller has been maintaining the #sudo codebase for over 30 years. This is exactly one of those cases where an entire critical infrastructure is held together by the work of a single volunteer who apparently can’t find anyone willing to sponsor him for some financial support. #opensource #linux #foss #GNU

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                    @pafurijaz yes but, he definitely has not made it easy for anyone to find a link to sponsor or donate to him directly

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                    • lumiworx@mastodon.socialL lumiworx@mastodon.social

                      @AndiBarth @pafurijaz @sovtechfund

                      Sponsorship may be the best way, but I'm doubtful that interested users can take on that big of a role and cash... but I would certainly contribute if there was an alternative way to do something financially. Is there anything already available for donations, like KoFi, GoFundMe, or similar?

                      @sudoproject is on Mastodon, so perhaps Todd or someone can point to whatever might be out there already.

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                      @lumiworx @AndiBarth @pafurijaz It is possible to sponsor #sudo on https://github.com/sudo-project/sudo/ or contribute directly at https://opencollective.com/sudo-project

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                      • sudoproject@fosstodon.orgS sudoproject@fosstodon.org

                        @lumiworx @AndiBarth @pafurijaz It is possible to sponsor #sudo on https://github.com/sudo-project/sudo/ or contribute directly at https://opencollective.com/sudo-project

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                        #11

                        @sudoproject @AndiBarth @pafurijaz

                        Thanks for the pointer... and, for sudo.

                        Easy enough, and done!

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                        • pafurijaz@mastodon.socialP pafurijaz@mastodon.social

                          Todd C. Miller has been maintaining the #sudo codebase for over 30 years. This is exactly one of those cases where an entire critical infrastructure is held together by the work of a single volunteer who apparently can’t find anyone willing to sponsor him for some financial support. #opensource #linux #foss #GNU

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                          @pafurijaz

                          Sudo ohh fuck

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                            @rastilin @egoldblatt @pafurijaz I think we should absolutely encourage monetary contributions to open source, but I think how we communicate about it is important.

                            No one should be going into free software projects expecting to get paid for it, and the fact that people do get paid for it is the exception and not the rule. Likewise, if there's an expectation for the users to pay for software, and the software is being distributed for free, I'd argue the onus isn't on the users, but on the authors/distributors to monetize it correctly.

                            Imo FOSS as a business model isn't in the spirit of FOSS (vscodium, for example). Neither does software we've paid for guarantee any special privileges or increased trust in the authors. It just means we've paid for it.

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                            • pafurijaz@mastodon.socialP pafurijaz@mastodon.social

                              Todd C. Miller has been maintaining the #sudo codebase for over 30 years. This is exactly one of those cases where an entire critical infrastructure is held together by the work of a single volunteer who apparently can’t find anyone willing to sponsor him for some financial support. #opensource #linux #foss #GNU

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                              @pafurijaz please exlain to us!

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                                @rastilin @pafurijaz I don't see a likelihood of users or corporations being willing to pay for open source. If payment changes hands, that's a contract. And I'm sure that everyone wants a contract that protects them from anything that might go wrong.

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                                • crocodisle@woof.techC crocodisle@woof.tech

                                  @rastilin @egoldblatt @pafurijaz I think we should absolutely encourage monetary contributions to open source, but I think how we communicate about it is important.

                                  No one should be going into free software projects expecting to get paid for it, and the fact that people do get paid for it is the exception and not the rule. Likewise, if there's an expectation for the users to pay for software, and the software is being distributed for free, I'd argue the onus isn't on the users, but on the authors/distributors to monetize it correctly.

                                  Imo FOSS as a business model isn't in the spirit of FOSS (vscodium, for example). Neither does software we've paid for guarantee any special privileges or increased trust in the authors. It just means we've paid for it.

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                                  @crocodisle @rastilin @pafurijaz If there's an expectation of payment, then the software isn't free.

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