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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

    Dear Fedi friends,

    Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

    The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

    I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

    My articles on them:

    🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

    Wow. Just wow.

    naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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    #34

    @_elena Thanks for the work! Davos, follow the money, the whole launching of that platform smells like investor's interests and hard lobbyism. When journalists sound like press releases: a sign that they don't have time for more or ... lobbyism. And we all know that lobbyism is one of the biggest problems inside EU structures.
    Hope they will not burn too much public money.

    For the new accounts, we had a saying in the 1968s: "imagine, they make (war), and nobody joins in." Will
    @EUCommission

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    • bovaz@misskey.socialB bovaz@misskey.social
      @_elena@mastodon.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu I really try to be hopeful, but time and time again they show themselves to be absolute ghouls.
      leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.seL This user is from outside of this forum
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      #35

      @bovaz @_elena @EUCommission 💯 yes, I'm speechless...

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      • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

        @_elena Thanks for the work! Davos, follow the money, the whole launching of that platform smells like investor's interests and hard lobbyism. When journalists sound like press releases: a sign that they don't have time for more or ... lobbyism. And we all know that lobbyism is one of the biggest problems inside EU structures.
        Hope they will not burn too much public money.

        For the new accounts, we had a saying in the 1968s: "imagine, they make (war), and nobody joins in." Will
        @EUCommission

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        #36

        @_elena normal non-tech people want to join that ID-🤢 ? Would they use it because of Mrs von der Leyen?

        The EU should give more help to the Fediverse. But somehow I'm glad that the Mastodon crew concentrates on sustainable, not forced growth.

        @EUCommission

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          Dear Fedi friends,

          Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

          The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

          I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

          My articles on them:

          🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

          Wow. Just wow.

          dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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          dzwiedziu@mastodon.social
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          #37

          @_elena
          “Make Europe Great Again” hat.

          As the Polish meme goes “I know from whom you are”¹

          This movement was kickstarted by Steve Bannon trying to transplant MAGA onto the EU. He found a lot of eager Polish supporters, including MPs and MEPs.

          And with those come ties to Russia, as the main adversary of the EU.

          1. “A ja wiem od kogo wy są”

          @EUCommission

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            @passenger 🎯 🎯 🎯 🎯 perfectly said!

            And I find it ironic that the whole purpose of W is to "replace X" and yet I am getting so many "Muskian" vibes from them. They're even copying the idea of the Everything App and payment system

            passenger@kolektiva.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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            #38

            @_elena

            I think you're right, yeah.

            It seems that what offends them about Musk doing harmful things is not the harm, but that it's not *them* doing it - or sometimes that he's doing harm incompetently.

            "The proprietor of the orphan-crushing machine is crushing orphans badly. We should build our own European orphan-crushing machine, it could crush orphans at a far higher rate."

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              @liaizon yes, Clearsky may not be the best designed website, but it's SO USEFUL!

              @Gina @hbons @shemjm @EUCommission

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              #39

              @_elena @liaizon @Gina @hbons @EUCommission yeah after I posted that message, I thought "oh no what if that's something someone made by themselves" 🤣

              I originally thought it was W social or Blue sky

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                Dear Fedi friends,

                Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

                The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

                I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

                My articles on them:

                🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

                Wow. Just wow.

                droidboy@social.cologneD This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #40

                @_elena @EUCommission @gavinkarlmeier

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  Dear Fedi friends,

                  Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

                  The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

                  I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

                  My articles on them:

                  🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

                  Wow. Just wow.

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                  cool_day@mastodon.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #41

                  @_elena Mastodon is not really not based in one country or one company like other social networks so putting the Mastodon in that map would be misleading (probably not what they were thinking though).

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    For context, my two articles on #WSocial didn't include some explosive things I found out in my research because:
                    - I was given some information on background, confidentially
                    - I found a particular thread to be a bit distracting (aka the MEGA hats sold on a website with far right paraphernalia)

                    Plus there are so many white lies... a pattern of misrepresentation that makes it really hard for me to trust them.

                    Do I have to write a THIRD article about W now? 🫠

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                    #42

                    @_elena huh, so that's what W Social is up to - I could be convinced on a network with verified real name policy but that combined with AI training, urgh!

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      For context, my two articles on #WSocial didn't include some explosive things I found out in my research because:
                      - I was given some information on background, confidentially
                      - I found a particular thread to be a bit distracting (aka the MEGA hats sold on a website with far right paraphernalia)

                      Plus there are so many white lies... a pattern of misrepresentation that makes it really hard for me to trust them.

                      Do I have to write a THIRD article about W now? 🫠

                      jsalvador@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #43

                      @_elena thanks for your service Elena, I was getting an eye on WSocial since it started and people was defending it as "the European bluesky", which always sounded weird to me.

                      I should've thought they were going to be this kind of shit eventually...

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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                        Dear Fedi friends,

                        Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

                        The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

                        I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

                        My articles on them:

                        🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

                        Wow. Just wow.

                        bitbraindev@mastodon.gamedev.placeB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        bitbraindev@mastodon.gamedev.place
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #44

                        @_elena @EUCommission it is baffling to me that they are not using Mastodon (EU instance) as their primary communication tool.

                        I hear the argument a lot that Mastodon is lacking reach but the instance could literally treated like a government website where the "reach" argument wouldn't count anyways.

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          Dear Fedi friends,

                          Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

                          The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

                          I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

                          My articles on them:

                          🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

                          Wow. Just wow.

                          phl@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                          phl@mastodon.social
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #45

                          @_elena @EUCommission Entirely unexpected move from von der Leyen /s

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                          • bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.frB bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr

                            @_elena @EUCommission On the ATmosphere, I have a Eurosky account. It may be better, but they just launched a new ATproto Web interface which requires age declaration...

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                            #46

                            @bortzmeyer @_elena @EUCommission UuuuUUuuuggggh.

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                            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                              For context, my two articles on #WSocial didn't include some explosive things I found out in my research because:
                              - I was given some information on background, confidentially
                              - I found a particular thread to be a bit distracting (aka the MEGA hats sold on a website with far right paraphernalia)

                              Plus there are so many white lies... a pattern of misrepresentation that makes it really hard for me to trust them.

                              Do I have to write a THIRD article about W now? 🫠

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                              #47

                              @_elena hell yeah, please!

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                For context, my two articles on #WSocial didn't include some explosive things I found out in my research because:
                                - I was given some information on background, confidentially
                                - I found a particular thread to be a bit distracting (aka the MEGA hats sold on a website with far right paraphernalia)

                                Plus there are so many white lies... a pattern of misrepresentation that makes it really hard for me to trust them.

                                Do I have to write a THIRD article about W now? 🫠

                                b3lt3r@mastodon.b3lt3r.comB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #48

                                @_elena yes you do need to keep the info coming!

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                                • phl@mastodon.socialP phl@mastodon.social

                                  @_elena @EUCommission Entirely unexpected move from von der Leyen /s

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                                  #49

                                  @phl @_elena @EUCommission 😢

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    Dear Fedi friends,

                                    Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

                                    The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

                                    I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

                                    My articles on them:

                                    🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

                                    Wow. Just wow.

                                    numerfolt@kirche.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    numerfolt@kirche.social
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #50

                                    @_elena @EUCommission What the heck?!?

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                                    • leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.seL leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.se

                                      @phl @_elena @EUCommission 😢

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                                      #51

                                      @leanderlindahl @phl @_elena @EUCommission Ugh... Very frustrating. Corporate lobbying at its finest.

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                                      • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

                                        @_elena @Razemix but W is just a PDS rn, which is very simple to set up I'm following many kids who are running their own.

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                                        #52

                                        @liaizon @_elena @Razemix It seems like it's a bit inconsistent. vonderleyen https://atproto.at/uri/at://did:plc:wr6esgkuixhvsge3ueraz6yb#identity and ec.europa.eu https://atproto.at/uri/at://did:plc:oxo226vi7t2btjokm2buusoy#identity uses W, while e.g. jessikaroswall https://atproto.at/uri/at://did:plc:7jh367ofh36xyxb7mpu7xigi#identity uses bsky.

                                        On Blacksky vonderleyen https://blacksky.community/profile/did:plc:wr6esgkuixhvsge3ueraz6yb and ec.europa.eu https://blacksky.community/profile/did:plc:oxo226vi7t2btjokm2buusoy apears like they are currently deactivated.

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                                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                          Dear Fedi friends,

                                          Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

                                          The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

                                          I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

                                          My articles on them:

                                          🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

                                          Wow. Just wow.

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                                          #53

                                          @_elena @EUCommission Ugh, I really hate all of this political signalling around "European tech". I don't think this will be the last time we see the fallout caused by being more concerned about what's "European" than what's actually good for citizens

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